God is Faithful, Are We?

A little more Q and A from that previous comment found here, a question that has been posed many times -

I also have difficulty believing that a Christian, regardless of their personal area of growth, can easily lose their salvation just because they’re deceived in some areas (aren’t we all?). God is FAITHFUL … Jesus didn’t die on the cross just so Satan could “steal” us away again after salvation … what sort of joyful assurance is that?!

Exodus 20:3 “You shall have no gods before Me.”

I wouldn’t say that salvation is so easily lost. It certainly cannot be taken from a believer. John 10:29, 30 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30“I and the Father are one.”…However, I don’t believe that God takes lightly a choice to serve other gods. The reason I am so strong in this belief is because the numerous, serious warnings to such a thing, with grave consequences we find throughout the word of God. I don’t think it is something we should go softly on.  Even the grace of God is only for a time.

I do believe salvation is a choice to be made and one that perhaps we have to make every day tho maybe we don’t stop to consider it that way. We have a choice in how we live, who we listen to, and who can influence our lives and our decisions. We have a choice to read and study the word of God, the best defense in recognizing deceptive teachings! We have a choice whether or not to follow after the voice of other gods, and if that is the choice we make, God will not stand in our way.

I do believe He will not leave us alone in that wrong choice. I believe there is a time of intimate communication while He speaks to us. He may do this in different ways as we are all as different as he created us to be. I don’t know how long until that communication is cut off. I do know if we insist on our own way he will leave us to that. And there, my friend, is the dividing line.

My warnings came in the forms of dreams, they were vivid, they were powerful and I had many of them. These were dreams that I could not totally understand until after He pulled me out of the deception. These were dreams that no one could interpret for me. Some tried. They were wrong. Maybe it was never His intent for me to understand until after the fact, until after the rescue.  The humorous side here – please laugh with me – is that during this time I had paid a boatload of money to learn dream interpretation. As did some others I ran with during that time. None of us could rightly interpret my dreams! And again, after the fact, I could see the “language” of the dreams thru the symbolism from my own life, things no one else could possibly understand but me. So, don’t pay a boatload of money for anyone to teach you dream interpretation. It simply cannot be done.

In looking back I can see what a wonderful connection He still had with me, tho I had denied him many times as I followed the voice of “other gods”. He didn’t give up. The Almighty God, El Elyon, the Most High is still in the saving business. Jesus still goes out of his way for that one lost sheep – what an amazing Savior! Yes, God is faithful. There is a question to be answered – Are we?

The whole point of deception is to lead us away from Christ. The enemy who prowls around does not care how it is done, only that it is accomplished. He has honed his skill to the utmost.

Restoration is possible, but who’s to say for how long. There is a time for everything and so we chose today whom we will serve; today is the day of salvation. It is not a choice to be taken lightly.

Deuteronomy 8…18“But you shall remember the LORD your God, for it is He who is giving you power to make wealth, that He may confirm His covenant which He swore to your fathers, as it is this day. 19“It shall come about if you ever forget the LORD your God and go after other gods and serve them and worship them, I testify against you today that you will surely perish. 20“Like the nations that the LORD makes to perish before you, so you shall perish; because you would not listen to the voice of the LORD your God.

A Testimony and the Golden Sword

I am posting a testimony I just received as a comment to the warning against The Vineyard. Following that is a clip of Carol Arnott and her false testimony of the Golden Sword which is mentioned in the testimony. Watch Carol, watch the people. This is the demonic in action.

One day, years ago, while in worship at the Vineyard, I too had a similar vision in which I was given a sword. I hadn’t thought about it in quite some time until I read this man’s words. All these years later and I am still uncovering the false prophetic. Read on you will see what this man has exposed is true. We are subject to who we come under and will become victim and subject to that same demon spirit.

I want to say that I was involved in a Vineyard church for some time. In fact, the very reason that I found this article is my need and desire to understand why I was attacked there. I was wounded badly on all fronts. I began attending a Vineyard church after having been a christian for many years. I knew then as I do now, that God’s word is my final authority for everything.

When someone attends a Vineyard church, ANY Vineyard church, they become subject to the evil or the good that was involved in the inception. Do not be deceived, there is real danger and power in this movement. It is very very dangerous to ANY believer who becomes involved. Light has no fellowship with darkness.

The reason that I was attacked is both good and bad for me. Good in that the reason was not that I was hated but Him who lived both with and in me was hated. It was also bad because it led me down a path of self doubt or doubt that I was even saved for a time. Of course my attack was on many fronts and it was personal, social, even public in one case. There was also an attack that was spiritually so real that I cannot convey it in any words. I have come to the conclusion after too long a time that it was the result of misguided person in leadership who stood behind me during worship with a golden sword that he believed he received through the heresy of the “Golden Sword Prophecy” delivered originally by Carol Arnott in January 1997. (note – this video follows)
Dear Brothers and Sisters, I am only still walking with our Loving creator because of grace. Through this I have found the key to victory has been really forgiving and loving the ones who so harmed me. I want to make sure that I tell everyone who reads this that God’s word is Alive. His name is Jesus. He is our final authority. The friend, the Comforter, The Holy Spirit my friend who sticks closer than a brother, always speaks of Him. The Holy Spirit will never add to the word of God. ALL truth is there for us.

I hope this is helpful for me and someone else. I would like to add one more thing that I noticed while I was involved in the Vineyard. They didn’t like it when I talked about my being fully persuaded that the Blood of Jesus was everything I needed and all I needed.
I noticed that they didn’t discuss the Blood very much at all. For me, my Christian walk can be defined as simply this: Being led by the Holy Spirit, the friend who sticks closer than a brother, into ALL Truth by one thing and only one thing, The Living Shed Blood of Jesus Christ. Peace to you all.

 

 

A True “Middle Ground”

A little Q&A with coffee this morning – and yes, much more could be said, maybe from me, maybe from my readers…

The “Q”:

In all of my studies, I have found a “civil war” going on. The Pentecostals think the non-Pentecostals are “lifeless”, and the non-Pentecostals believe the Pentecostals are “demonically influenced”. Isn’t there any true middle ground?
I believe in the Baptism of the Holy Ghost as taught in the Scriptures (beyond just what a person receives at the time of salvation). I believe in the demonstration of all 9 “gifts” of the Spirit. I also have difficulty believing that a Christian, regardless of their personal area of growth, can easily lose their salvation just because they’re deceived in some areas (aren’t we all?). God is FAITHFUL … Jesus didn’t die on the cross just so Satan could “steal” us away again after salvation … what sort of joyful assurance is that?!
But to be certain, I am totally disconnected from the likes of Todd Bentley, NAR, IHOP, Bethel, WOF, Dominionism, Prosperity, Latter Rain …et al. I believe these movements, as such, are playing right into the hands of the endtime Antichrist! But none of these movements can undo what God has already spoken in His Word!
MK … I enjoy your blog and read it often … but is there such a thing as a Pentecostal Baptist?? (tongue in cheek, here) :)
Would greatly appreciate a response!

The “A”:

Tim, while reading your comment and drinking my coffee this morning I gave a little chuckle at “Pentecostal Baptist”. I get it. My readers who have experienced these thing probably get it too. :) I had a great response all ready and while doing a search I clicked on the tab I was writing from, and poof! just like that, my response went into cyberspace. This, not for the first time since the beginning of my blogging days! :( (In retaliation, and because I am feeling a bit vindictive to my own slop of hand quicker than the eye, I will be putting up new articles to cover those topics I only touched on in my lost comment to you.) But, for now, this –

It comes to mind from Ephesians 4

1Therefore I, the prisoner of the Lord, implore you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling with which you have been called, 2with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing tolerance for one another in love, 3being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all.

When too much emphasis is placed in one area and not enough in another, the doctrine becomes out of balance. We have a disunity, a division of the church which Christ established to be as one. We can no longer dwell in unity with one another because we cannot agree. But the bible is the final authority in these things. Of course, we are not speaking of the false teachers and prophets – heretics – in this situation, only the “denominations” which in my opinion Satan has ruled as authority. Non believers are not stupid. They hear the arguments, see the differing opinions, and run in the opposite direction. The church is weakened, no longer as effective as it once was and we all whine and cry why we do not see things done as written in the new testament, the book of Acts…we need to wake up. And there we see the gifts have not ceased at all, but are not in operation to the extent they should be, could be, because man in his stupidity, his sin, his pride has gotten in the way of God. Harsh? Yes!

If we just stop and think for a moment, what is our title exactly? In the old days it was referred to as “The Way”. I kinda like the ring to that. After all, Jesus is the WAY, the truth and the life…hmm… We are called Christians; called by His name and that is what we are. We are not Pentecostal, Baptist, Lutheran, Assembly of God. Those are demon inspired from division, set up by man from the result of becoming unteachable one to another. And we see those denominations falling even as we speak. The heretics (some of which you named and I have exposed here) have finally have invaded the denominations. One has to wonder if this could very well have been Satan’s intent from the beginning. Divide and conquer.

We, are the true church.

I am glad you enjoy my blog. :)
Peace be with you and stay tuned – I’m not done.

Theotherapy or Completeness in Christ

For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus. Philippians 1:6 

An interesting read from a fellow blogger that I am sharing in light of recent discussion here regarding a need for “therapy”.  Are we not complete in Him as stated in His word? Colossians 2:10. 

http://godlee4life.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/sozo-renamed-theotherapy/

The New Age Propensities of Bethel Church’s Bill Johnson, John Lanagan

bkt-jl-bth-lgMy friends, John from My Word Like Fire has published the following tract on the relationship between Bethel teachings and the New Age. I was exposed to, and was taught similar ideas from John Paul Jackson. And in and my dealing in the false prophetic I too, was considered a “seer”.

It is widely believed and taught therein, that the works of the occult, the supernatural and psychic power are truly from the Lord. Those who practice these things outside a relationship with the Lord, only have yet to know Him, and that and the church itself has forgotten its true ways. Nothing can be further from the truth. If you have ever heard of Christian prophetic booths set up at fairs and conventions, this is where it comes from.

Thank you John, for a work well done.

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From the Lighthouse BlogNEW BOOKLET TRACT: The New Age Propensities of Bethel Church’s Bill Johnson.

my time away and then some…

Hello.

First let me apologize to the 29 people whose comments are still in moderation. I am not ignoring you.

My life has been in a state of change for the last few years. I’ve been in some emotional, personal turmoil, have moved to a new state, started new employment, and began an entire new life. It hasn’t been easy, but very necessary. I can tell you I have had more than my share of panic attacks. It isn’t easy starting over, and if I were to tell you the details, I’d be called more than just “pharisee”.  Please, skip the judgement and  – laugh -  here.

We never know what our lives will be. We make plans, we hope, dream, pray – storm the gates of heaven with prayer, some things change and some thing do not. We have little, if any real control over the events in our lives. We have absolutely no control over the choices others make, tho at times I believe we convince ourselves otherwise, usually to our own emotional detriment.

I am still a part of the happy planet Earth, tho not blogging or researching as I once was, which for me is  great heartbreak. But, I am still among the living – those of the wage earning, tax paying, upstanding, coffee drinking (didn’t the 80′s call them “movers and shakers”?) and yes, a bona fide senior citizen (I turned 55 this year! = eeek!) and have watched my hair grey and my eyes dim. And,  NO, I do not order off senior menus in large print, thank you.

I do plan to be with you as I can. I am also about writing that book that so many of you have bugged me to death about, er..ahem, that is to say….encouraged me to write. That is my intention, one which I will…we will lay before the feet of the Lord. The Lord, who, by the way has taken great care of me.

I look around a bit and see not all that much has changed. The sheep are still choosing to be blind. I see it in the titles of other bloggers. I see it penned here in some of the comments awaiting moderation. And I also see continued pleas for help and direction. Thank the Lord for that, if you are one of these seekers let no one take you from His leading!

On another note, I have noticed younger society has become quite an odd sight to behold! Heavily tattooed, painted, pierced and decorated with all sorts of metals and jewels. Yep, society has become all polished up with very little to no work ethic at all, and certainly very quick to spew their loud and foul mouths, all in the name of “let me be me”, forgetting decency and the simple respect of their fellow man or woman. But… to work for a living?

But oh, the bong is much more powerful than the paycheck, yes? Medical marijuana anyone? Obama Care? Oh, does he? The government is loving our demise.

And we thought the 60′s were a thing of the past. Think again. We’re just gettin’ started. Heaven help us, indeed!

Anyway…I’m baa–aack! :)

 

The Missive “bible” and the gay youth pastor

M'Kayla:

Reblogging from mywordlikefire…serious, gave me chills. What say you?

Originally posted on My Word Like Fire:

The pastor of the mega-church sat behind his polished mahogany desk, wincing as the fierce pounding assaulted his temples. The youth pastor would be here any minute now. With growing anxiety, Pastor Billy Rapp opened the new, state sanctioned Bible, and turned to several passages about homosexuality. Only, there was nothing there about homosexuality.

Nothing.

As some had ominously predicted, The Missive paraphrase had become the only Bible allowed in the remaining, state approved churches. Written by Hugo Peukermann, a likable biology teacher from Canada, the paraphrase had been used by the emergents and those opposed to Sola Scriptura for years. Now, however, even more had been gutted from it, and Pastor Rapp stared at its sterile, lifeless pages.

He closed the tepid “Bible” with a sigh. At least the church had been allowed to stay open. And, well, at least the homosexual couples would be here now. In a way this…

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Once An Alcoholic, Always An Alcoholic, THE Lie….A Testimony

I received the following testimony as a comment, and wanted to share it as an article. Thanks and blessings, Doug!

Dear Readers,

First and foremost, hats off to Mkayla,for not braking ranks in this WAR!

Okay, I have a story for you. Maybe it applies here and maybe not, but I believe that I was unfairly, verbally attacked by these three people in a supposed to be, Christian, Faith Based AA Group.

And I want to say, I’m not a member, nor am I affiliated with AA or any of its associates in any way!

A friend of mine who heads this group asked me, if I would help him with the group. I had been there years prior, and kinda chalked the whole thing up to too many rules and regulations on the surface, and just really didn’t wanna find out what was underneath.

So I said yes and started chairing this AA meeting as a fill in for this guy. These people are to be very Leary of. Just listen to this:

I began by reading the appropriated material out loud and instead the normal:”Hi, I’m (whoever) and I’m an alcoholic/drug addict, I said”Hi, I’m Doug, and I was an alcoholic/drug addict until I met The Lord Jesus Christ and he healed me.”

We’ll, suprisingly enough at first I was getting good response with this and so after about a month I started referring to divine healing for alcoholics and educating them in where their faith should be!

That it was not to be in the MEETINGS but in Christ and Him Crucified!

I began pointing them more and more to looking to God ALONE. To only use the meetings as a tool to help u by listening to others and supporting each other with their unique but yet similar stories. And I always encourage laughing and putting the past where it belongs; in the past!

This was going quite well up until about 6 weeks ago this couple from a near by town who happen to run the local Triangle Group came over. They seemed nice enough, until they talked.

These two were loud, obnoxious, and hateful. Mind you, I can be part of all three when I get ticked over something said against my Lord and Savior. But these guys starting coming down on me because I had been telling people that I had been healed of Alcoholism.

You would have thought I had killed somebody. I was finally attacked by them in a very hostile verbal way after a meeting here recently. Absolutely ludicrous!!!

These guys basically tried to shout me down for standing up to the truth about AA and their 12 steps!!!

They wanted to SILENCE THE GOSPEL! Yet, they were Christian???

I think Not! They are enemies of The Cross of Christ Paul says.

They deny divine healing and that God can and will do anything.

They tell people that they are alcoholic and will alway
s be alcoholic!

That is a lie straight from the pits of HELL!

We CANNOT GIVE GROUND. I was able to infiltrate and help for over 6 months at least is how I see it. Many I believe we’re led to Christ.

It was like these little demons just walked right in that meeting and tried to destroy what I had established as truth the past six months. They are up under law! You can’t have it both ways!

It’s either Grace or Law! You can choose the method by which ye will be judged by. But I will choose GRACE EVERY TIME!

Don’t give in and don’t give up. We are to do what The Word of God says to do until the trumpet sounds and Jesus comes back to get us. That’s it!

Their pitiful attempt to thwart the work of God will not go unheard of in the halls of heaven.

In Christ Always,

Doug

We must all be courageous. One of these was a friend of mine. Sometimes we have to make hard decisions. This war is not easy. Many of us have been wounded by false doctrine. We know what it is and want terribly to keep anyone from experiencing the things we have.____

See Also – Who The Son Sets Free, A Testimony

Warnings, Jacob Prasch

This a valuable, in-depth study of the apostasy noted in 2 Thessalonians 2, that Jesus repeatedly warned about in Matthew 24, commonly known as the Olivet Discourse. I hope all my readers take the time to listen, especially those who have recently been offended. This teaching will help clear the air. The truth and the lie are always positioned together. Jesus said many would come in His name and deceive many. Here we are, here is why.