The Convergence of Bad Rivers

The Next Great Awakening, from CBN (watch video from link)

KANSAS CITY, Mo. – Thousands of people have been packing into special services at the International House of Prayer in Kansas City, Mo. They’re lured by the presence of God that has been falling upon the place over and over again since Nov. 11. Many have been healed, some physically, but plenty more emotionally and spiritually.

Now the question hanging over this visitation of the Holy Spirit: is this the start of something really big? Could this be the next Great Awakening? (Visitation of the Holy Spirit?)

Pastor Alan Koch from nearby Lee’s Summit, Mo., hopes so. He remembers what he heard at a global charismatic conference Kansas City hosted back in the 1970s.

“One of the prophecies that came out was that there were going to be spokes that were going to be going out to the nations, but the focus of that, the center was Kansas City,” he recalled.

When this move of God hit IHOP, the leaders immediately invited John and Carol Arnott of the 15-year-long Toronto Renewal and Bill and Benni Johnson of Redding, California’s miracle-packed Bethel Church to come check out what the Lord’s doing in Kansas City.  (See this:https://mkayla.wordpress.com/2009/12/04/another-false-move-meeting/)

At a jammed IHOP renewal service, Benni Johnson recalled a prophetic word given around 1909 by William Seymour, leader of the 1906 Azusa Street Revival: “He said ‘In another hundred years, there’s going to be another great outpouring. It’s going to be a Great Outpouring.”

“You do the math,” Johnson said. “We’re in that season now.”

Angelic Encounter

Johnson also shared a story told by a Welsh student at Bethel’s School of Supernatural Ministry. A woman from Wales described a wild encounter she had with an angel at the chapel where the great 1904 Welsh Revival began.

“She turned around and she saw a huge, huge angel. She said the foot of the angel was as large as the chapel. It was that big,” Johnson recalled. “And she actually had the nerve to talk to this angel, and said, ‘Are you the angel of this next Great Awakening?’ And he said, ‘No, I’m the angel of the 1904 Awakening. But there is another one coming. And it is bigger and it is greater.'”

Rivers of Revival Come Together

Carol Arnott shared the prophecy one of her most trusted Christian friends gave her about a year ago.

“Carol, the three rivers, Kansas City, Redding and Toronto, must come together. The three rivers must come together for what God wants to do in this next move,” Arnott remembered.

Johnson had something else prophetic to tell IHOP. “I woke up a year ago,” she said, “Woke up with this word: ‘Pray for IHOP, I’m about to do something.'”

“I felt that there was something strategic that was going to be happening,” Johnson explained. “This is perfect timing in God’s kingdom. And I’m so excited to see what God is doing here and in so many other places.”

As Johnson and Arnott shared, IHOP founder Mike Bickle said he had no knowledge of such prophecies when he invited the Arnotts and Johnsons to come support the Kansas City renewal as it began. A sense of awe filled the stage as the leaders of the three ministries realized God had already been weaving the three together prophetically long before they thought to come together in Kansas City.

Among The Young

IHOP is cheering such stories and prophecies. It also considers it a major sign that this awakening began in its Bible school among young people, and that it’s spreading rapidly to other college campuses via IHOP’s webcast. That’s because over the years many awakenings have begun at colleges and with the young.

“He is getting the heart of the next generation,” IHOP-U’s president Allen Hood said of the Lord. “When He wants to begin an awakening, He begins to get the heart of the college-age students.”

IHOP-U’s provost, Wes Hall said it’s significant God has been doing deep spiritual surgery among the young people, excising sins and hurts and brokenness.

“The Lord is setting them free from these heavy yokes so that they can be free to minister God’s love out of a real experience that His love is real, and His freedom is real. It’s not just a concept that the blood of Jesus makes you clean,” Hall explained.

His Goodness

Bethel’s Bill Johnson said it’s just a start for what God wants to show the world.

“There’s a realm and a measure of blessing that the Lord wants to release into the Earth that has never been seen before. Hosea chapter 3 says that in the latter days there will be a fear of God because of His goodness…because of His goodness,” he explained. (Pardon, but my bible does not use the word BECAUSE. In Hosea 3:8, it reads, Afterward the children of Israel shall return and seek the Lord their God and David their king. They shall fear the Lord and His goodness in the latter days.)

“There’s something about His goodness that’s going to strike us to the core, and bring a yieldedness that we’ve never been able to get any other way. He’s about to overwhelm and overtake,” Johnson said. (This is not the character of the Lord God to “overwhelm” or to “overtake”.)

Toronto’s John Arnott added a serious warning. One of the quickest ways to squelch revival is to be offended at the controversial signs and behavior that often accompany it.

He recalled how critics blasted Toronto’s renewal and the wild behaviors sometimes exhibited even as hundreds of thousands of people were getting saved and revived.

“It just baffled me,” Arnott said. “I’m looking around saying, ‘What’s not to like?’ So somebody fell down or somebody shouted. Come on! It’s so much deeper than that. It’s the life of God in the heart of His people setting them on fire with passion for Jesus.'”  (Arnott is indeed baffled, led astray from this devious, deceitful spirit he chases. Manifestations such as falling down, shaking, flailing limbs are not indicative of the presence of the Holy Spirit. So, yes, John Arnott, we are offended!)

Signs That Can Offend

Some IHOP staffers and students confess they were offended when they first saw some of their fellow IHOPers falling and laughing and shaking wildly under the influence of the Spirit.

Longtime Christian Crystal Camacho described her reaction the first day of the awakening.

“I am cynical, because people are rolling and laughing,” she said. “And I’m kind of like ‘Is this what revival looks like? If so, I’m offended.'”

But God brought the IHOP staffer and student up short the next day as she was praying for someone else to be freed from a judgmental, religious spirit.

“And I was like ‘God I pray that you set her free from religion,’ but I hear the Lord say, ‘Crystal, how can you pray for someone’s freedom and yet you are in the same bondage?,'” she asked.

Then Camacho surrendered herself to God, asked for prayer from others at the renewal and was soon knocked out in the Spirit. She came up shaking in the Lord for hours and it’s been happening frequently ever since.

“From 6 p.m. to 4 a.m. I could not stop shaking under the presence of the Lord, and I was filled with joy!” she exclaimed. “And it’s non-stop. Like even when I’m sleeping, I’ll wake up with just bursts of laughter.”  (Laughter or hysteria? I don’t understand the idea that we can be in Christ Who has made us free and yet be in bondage.  What a lie. Her original “offense” was her first clue something was truly wrong there!)

A Hub for Worldwide Revival?

This willingness to surrender to God, no matter the cost. seems to be a serious sign many at IHOP and involved in the renewal are ready to be used on a wider stage. And IHOP’s in an extremely strategic position to become a hub for worldwide revival.

The ministry has been sending prayer and worship up to God 24-hours a day for 10 solid years now, and it has more than 70 people in its media department to feed that worship across the Earth over TV and the Web.

That ability to broadcast made last year’s Lakeland revival the first one to go global almost immediately.

“When God pours out His Spirit today, we saw from Lakeland, that it’ll go around the world just like that,” Hood said, snapping his fingers. “What’s exciting about that is that with one outpouring, the global bride of Christ can get awakened and set on fire.”

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It is true we are seeing something come together between IHOP, Bethel, Lakeland, stemming from the Toronto Blessing lies of the “latter rain” and their false prophets and false doctrines.  Pray that the truth of these movements be evident to all.

If you are involved in these movements and gatherings, what you experience is not the latest move of God, not His presence or His love. It is a false spirit. Forget about how good it feels and how much you giggle. Read your bible, specifically about the work of the Holy Spirit in the life of a believer,  and get away from this masquerading one.

True revivals are about repentance and the need for salvation! False revivals are all about the person, their destiny, falling down and feeling drunk! Big difference.

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19 thoughts on “The Convergence of Bad Rivers

  1. HI Mkayla,
    I waswatching Mike Bickle today on GODTV and noticed he was saying we are about to witness a great revival as well as the greatest “falling away” from the church, greater than any time in history.
    So I started looking for Mike Bickle and Bill Johnson and the Toronto Blessing, thinking there must be a way to show people they are partnering together in this “revival”….and I found you again!
    I laughed when I read this:
    As Johnson and Arnott shared, IHOP founder Mike Bickle said he had no knowledge of such prophecies when he invited the Arnotts and Johnsons to come support the Kansas City renewal as it began. A sense of awe filled the stage as the leaders of the three ministries realized God had already been weaving the three together prophetically long before they thought to come together in Kansas City.

    I think you and I have discussed this possibility over a month ago….go figure.

    As I watched Mike Bickle today, he never once quoted a scripture, he said God and The Lord and spoke of getting POWER, and being a Forerunner.

    So once again thank you for this article, and I still think you should put this blog into a book. I want my copy ASAP!!!!
    Kathleen

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    • I tried to watch a little of the onething webcast but can’t….I just want to go – AAAAHHHHHHH – GAG! AND GAG AGAIN. His facial expressions! If a face could ever look pompous, there it is on Bickle’s!

      OH, they like that word POWER, don’t they, along with AUTHORITY, that’s another good one. And FORERUNNER is such a good buzz word as it implies no one else can do this or has ever done this until now, until you…your destiny (for such a time as this)….aren’t you so important in the great plan….especially if you’re a few years just past puberty……. gag.

      So, where does he come up with this greatest revival and falling away all at the same time? So he can’ t be wrong when either happen? But then again, look at all of them gathering in a false revival, all thinking again something is getting ready to happen like they always do. I guess those of us who come against their craziness are the ones who have fallen away, huh? You’d think by now they would realize nothing real is taking place; it’s just the blowing of their own hot air!

      You and my husband with the book. It will have to be self published. Hope that’s ok. hehe.
      Thanks

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  4. Yes. This is a new site & they are looking for other churches/organizations to join up with them. Here is the text from the “sign up” screen of their website:

    “The Praying Church is looking for like minded ministry friends across multiple streams in the body of Christ. We desire to build a relational network of marvelous comrades who are committed to the seven agreements of The Praying Church. If you identify and affirm the seven agreements of The Praying Church we’d like to connect with you as well as make you aware of upcoming Praying Church conferences and events”

    Here are their “Seven Agreements”:
    •Prayer Based Community – Establishing prayer as the centerpiece of body life
    •Fasted Lifestyle – Embracing and living the Sermon on the Mount
    •The Word of God – Testifying to the divinity of Christ and the truth of the Scriptures
    •Great Commission – Engaging in compassion and justice initiatives to the lost, the poor and the oppressed.
    •Supernatural Ministry – Operating in the power of the Spirit to accomplish works of ministry, from the foundation of intimacy with God.
    •Historic Breakthrough – Contending for revival and spiritual breakthrough in a manner witnessed by the Apostles in the book of Acts.
    •End Times – Preparing the Bride with urgency for the Lord’s return

    So, it should be interesting to see who aligns with them. I suspect at first it will be local groups who have taken on the -HOP (house of prayer) name, but churches who are being decieved and swept up into their movement will have the opportunity to join. I’m sure my previous church will. My heart grieves.

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    • They’re so full of themselves that they no longer know or care what the word really says. They have built their own religion and here’s their church.

      What is this “Houston, we have a problem” – how irritating.

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  5. I have many friends who have fallen into this stuff. The problem is the complete lack of knowledge of the whole Word of YHVH. He does not change, but the god they present is not the one I see revealed in the Hebrew Scriptures. I went along with the crowd for a while despite what I know the scriptures to say, and I thank Him for getting me back on tract with the Truth as revealed in His Word.

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  6. Interesting commentary here. Your descriptions of Bickle’s face seem more like personal preference than love for truth. Can you point me to some of your writing that gives a clear presentation of what a true Biblical Church looks like? I’m sincerely interested.

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    • I’m not sure what you mean by Bickle’s face.
      A true biblical church is one that follows the words of the bible without taking them out of context, or used to support some idea, dream, vision, supernatural encounter, etc. someone had. One that teaches Christ is the head of His church, gifts are given according to the will of God, not man, and the bride of Christ is used as an example, not some mystical lover experience. The veil to the holy of holies was torn in two when Christ died, granting believers access to God in a personal relationship and worship -and not from a gang of musicians. One that teaches prayer for what it truly is – and that God is sovereign, and we don’t always get what we ask for. This can go on and on…love of the truth is just that and it is found in the word of God.

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  7. shalom MKayla,
    I just came from a “shabar” session this afternoon, and I was led to do some research about this ‘healing ministry’. Came across your page and a few others.. I need to talk to you. Is there a way to email you?
    BenMichael1

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    • I don’t know much about shabar, but I think it has to do with false healing dissociative disorder, multiple personalities. I was a trained sozo minister – get far away if you have been involved. I have some writing about sozo here, as does the blog Closing Stages (check the sidebar). I can also answer specific questions that you may have regarding sozo. These techniques are taken from inner healing and guided imagery techniques used in new age and secular therapies. They have nothing whatsoever to do with Christ or His healing power. They are in fact quite powerful, but are full of the demonic – familiar spirits which can make the experiences seem to be from God. None of these techniques or even the ideas are found in scripture, nor were they taught by Christ or His disciples.

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