Let’s Pray

I’ve been reading around some and found that Mike Bickle from IHOP was to give  a prophetic word (I think tonight) at Rick Joyner’s church, Morningstar.  This is also the hang out of Todd Bentley, you know, the infamous Florida Outpouring nut whose claim to healing ministry is to kick, hit and assault his victims WWE style. I saw his twitter (iamtoddbentley) earlier that “something” is happening, revival, etc., the usual blurb.  I see on the Morningstar website they are advertising “Outpouring” meetings. So here we are again. And we knew it was coming.

Recently, I listened to a prophetic word at Morningstar given by Cindy Jacobs. She is very militant in her style and this word had some military points. I started to transcribe it, but just couldn’t make myself do it.

So I am thinking of this word, along with Rick Joyner’s prophecy or dream some time back about the bloody war between the gray coats (those who believe in scripture) and the blue coats (those who believe in experience).  Ok, someone else who has a little more Joyner background can probably quote this better than what I just did. I never read his stuff. So, if you know anything more, feel free to comment.

In addition, during the converging of these other rivers…IHOP, Bethel, Toronto, I started to wonder where is Todd Bentley, seeing as he was prophesied as the next wave, joined with Toronto and all these guys stuck by him after his fall.  And then I began to wonder, where is Bob Jones??? He is the main driving prophetic voice behind all of this.  Then I saw tonight  – Morningstar  – there on video giving a prophetic word about breaking off curses!  (More WOF stuff – in which a person speaking negatively about another forms a word curse with the power to do harm. Something like witchcraft. And if the curse is broken off or commanded to go! then the person is free from the curse and it’s harm.)  Never mind that Jesus Christ became the curse for us tho. Not for these guys, they have to do it their own way.

So here we are.

I am not going to bother with linking videos or going through who says what or why it’s wrong. I will put a couple of links to direct you and leave it at that. However, if you would like to comment on what you see, hear, etc. please do.

One thing, the most important thing is that we pray. These people aren’t coming together for a tea party, even tho there is a mad hatter behind it all. This militant stuff (if you listen to Jacobs you will see the connection) is bothering me more than the rest. This is not the first time I have considered that true Christians may be persecuted by those who claim Christ, but follow the false one.  So many of us have experienced their backlash when we have stood for the truth. We have experienced their “love” which isn’t love at all.

The culmination of all of these groups coming together under the guise of Christianity is precedent over anything before – ever. Many people are excited and revved up about his happening. They see God in this. They see revival. But because of all the false prophecy and teaching, the false signs and wonders, the backgrounds and associations of these leaders – I do not see God there with them. I do not. And, I don’t see this calming down at all from this point forward.  Regardless, we need direction from our Father. We need His protection. These deluded people need to repent and to be restored to holiness, to righteousness. And there is only One who can do that. It will not come from prophetic decrees and declarations. It will not come from angels. We cannot speak this into existence. It will only come when the veil of deception is ripped off their eyes and they become aware of their own sin. It will only come through the mighty power and presence of our God.  For those of us who have been there, we know what it will take.

Our God is mighty to save! So, please, let’s pray.

Here are your links:

Morningstar Website

Prophetic Words (Bob Jones, Cindy Jacobs)

Fresh Fire Ministries – Todd Bentley

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12 thoughts on “Let’s Pray

  1. About these wolves (leaders) coming to repentance, it isn’t going to happen.
    It is right to pray for our enemy’s and they qualify for that as they are enemy’s of Christ,
    It is my hope and prayer that many who are being drawn into there false teachings will escape the snare of the devil having been taken captive by him to do his will.
    As for the leaders? Nothing is impossible with God, but what happens when the Holy Spirit vacates the temple, and an imposter sets himself up in the temple of God as if he is god?. Can the person who is under such deception at this point repent? Only the Lord knows if these leaders are at this point, I personally suspect it, after all we are told that these things must happen before our Lords return, its happening right before our eyes.
    Here are just a few scriptures about such people as the Joyners, Bentley’s, Bob Jones’s etc.
    Rom. 16:17-18 “Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve out Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple”
    I know it is us who have been blamed for causing divisions by the uniformed, but it is not because we are spreading false doctrines.

    These people are “deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles, of Christ And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.” 2Cor.11:13-15

    “But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.” Gal.1:8-9
    They are an accursed bunch not by my proclamation or belief but by the Word of God.

    1Tim.4:1. “Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,”

    2Peter 2:14-15 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children. They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness. Verse 17 These are wells without water, clouds carried by a tempest, for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.

    1Jn ch.2 talks about Antichrists. ‘Many’, Anti Christ can also mean instead of Christ. ( a different Jesus)
    We can learn these things about Antichrists 1) Their primary target is Christians.
    2) they arise from within the visible church,
    3) they claim to have a special anointing,
    4) they claim assess to supernatural knowledge not available to ordinary Christians,
    5) they have a defective doctrine of Christ, though they claim to believe in Him. If we compare John’s teaching to other New Testament passages on this topic we will find that many Antichrists operate in our day and their target is the Christian church. It stands to reason that Satan’s deceptive practices target the church, since the world is already under his sway. “We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one”. 1Jn.5:19
    For those who would defend these men take warning.
    The letter to the compromising church. Rev.2
    “But I have a few things against you, because you have there those who hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit sexual immorality. Thus you also have those who hold the doctrine of the Niclolaitans, which thing I hate. Repent, or else I will come to you quickly and will fight against them with the sword of My mouth. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

    The letter to the corrupt church.
    Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols.

    Note; To eat things sacrificed to idols is not just a historical notation but has implications for us today. These wolves take the meat of the word of God and interpret it according to there idol and turn and feed it to the sheep, and sexual immorality will first start with spiritual immorality.
    And the deeds and doctrines of the Nicolaitans is not about a group at the time of John who’s leader was an apostate called Nicolas, This is God’s eternal word for us today.
    . If the word Nikolaites is broken down you get “destruction of the people”
    A elite class that has power over the people.
    So much for the members of Christ being a “royal priesthood”
    Search it out for yourselves.
    Grace be with all those who love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity.

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    • James, thank you for that contribution of scripture and truth. These are discussed here often, but you have brought in a little more meat for us and I do appreciate that.

      I know these leaders have been warned. I have one piece in particular that I got from another, questions that were sent to Bentley but were never answered. So we have to also look at the possibility as you said, that they may never come into repentance. Chilling thought! I have little hope seeing these groups merge together – all who supported Bentley. I see them all as cowards, unwilling to come forward and be separate, afraid maybe that they may “miss” out on “what God is doing now”. So here they are, and God is not with them. Their fame is being spread and their pockets line. Their god IS their belly! I do have great concern for their weak followers and mostly that is where my prayers turn. Some are my friends or used to be, and some are family! And I know I am in good company as many here share the same concerns.

      Let Jesus be glorified in the lives and work of His true church!

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  2. Good exhortation to pray!

    A phrase from Scripture that I often pray regarding these things, beginning with myself & immediate/extended family, my pastor & church, and others is taken from II Thess. 2:10: “Give us a love of the truth and hearts that love and receive the truth”.

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  3. I agree with you M’kayla that we should pray for many to be delivered from deception. A true man or woman of God, who themselves have been delivered from deception and seducing spirits, will always desire to see those in captivity delivered,and not write them all off as a lost cause.

    I also agree with James, that most of the leaders will not repent. Better to pray for the true sheep who’ve been led astray rather than for the wolves.

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  5. Oh gosh! I went to your Morningstar link and TRIED to listen to Cindy Jacobs. Is it me or is there something soooo weird and off base with her? Who in their right mind could sit under all that screeching and call it annointed????

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    • She’s off. Anyone claiming “this place will be special unto the Lord, blah, blah” is off right from the beginning. The Lord does not need a house for people to go to – we have a tabernacle, built without hands! She’s very militant in her “ministry”.

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  6. I found something interesting this morning. I was looking at Matt. when Yeshua is speaking of false prophets and false christs.
    Then suddenly I saw it in this way. Christos of course means anointed and isn’t that what we see, people declaring themselves anointed who are running around preaching the doctrines of demons?
     
    I think that typically when these passages are read people only think of Christ the title and not just the meaning of the word.
    So with my translation changes…
    4Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am anointed,[a]’ and will deceive many.
     
    11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
     
    24For false anointed and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time.

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