A Word Against the Wilderness Outcry

Against the Outcry

The following is a comment I put up at the blog linked above. This is a group of people – Christians and Atheists who are against the upcoming Wilderness Outcry coming to their hometown in Missouri this June. The blog has linked some of my related articles to help get the word out. Please pray that the deceitful teachings of Dutch Sheets and Lou Engle be revealed to the people. Their false doctrines and silly ideas are damaging to the true faith!

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We need to put this in its proper perspective. Dutch Sheets and Lou Engle are part of what is known as the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) under the leadership of C Peter Wagner. They subscribe to the latter rain doctrine (Dominionism/Kingdom Now/Manifest Sons of God) which teaches that in the final days God will pour out His Spirit in a way that He never did in the past. They believe there will be an end time army of believers, taken from Joel 2 that will have supernatural ability never before experienced. Some of them will achieve a sinless state, embodying Christ Himself. It is complete heresy!! This is the driving force behind what is called Joel’s Army or Engle’s The Call, the Nazirites. They also believe God has called them to take dominion over the earth, in all 7 areas of influence, aka the 7 mountains – religion, entertainment, media, education, government, etc. They believe this can be achieved through these prayer/worship/fasting gatherings.

What their teachings and beliefs come down to is their own personal interpretations of scripture. They take the words of the bible out of context to support whatever dreams or visions or prophetic words they claim to have had. They throw out any regard to what the scriptures truly mean or who is being addressed, but use them for their own purposes. Much regard and importance is given to their own subjective supernatural experiences which is known as experienced-based theology, having no basis in the truth of the word of God. Their followers who trust and support them do so at their own detriment, but believe they are fulfilling the call of God and that they have been called to this service being forerunners or having special purpose or ability above that of a normal Christian. These movements are very dangerous, very deceptive. Once people become wrapped up it is very difficult to show them the truth.

I am a Christian. I believe in the word of God as it is written. These people, even tho they use the name of God and throw scripture around do not speak for true Christianity. It is very important for us to make that as clear as possible. They are liars and have their own plans and purposes aside from anything God has done, outside His will or purpose. All anyone has to do is to read the bible to find this out. It is not hard to see the lies.

Numbers do not have special purpose, nor are they ever used by God to communicate messages to His people. This is numerology and is used in the occult, a practice of divination forbidden to us by God. (Leviticus 19:26) To confirm this, scan the bible and see if God ever used numbers or a grouping of numbers to speak to people. You will find He did not. There are some who call themselves Christians yet teach numbers have meaning. (I know because I took their courses, only to find out the truth later.) And to multiply that number gives that meaning more emphasis. This is why the number 7 is expressed as 777, or 4 as 444, etc. A little research into numerology will confirm this as true. The bible was written without the numbering system as divided into chapters and verses. Man did that to make it easier to read, study and refer to. So the little scenario of 444 acres being Isaiah 44:4 is questionable since God didn’t use the numbering system anyway!!

This connection with Nazirites is part of the Old Covenant, having nothing to do with Christianity. It is old and should be put aside, not practiced or encouraged. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the Old Covenant and is the New Covenant. We call ourselves Christians because we follow Christ and His teachings and His ways. If we are to take on a vow of the Nazirite we need to be aware there is more to it than just the vow in itself. So, these followers may want to ask themselves if they are ready to follow ALL of the rules and requirements of a Nazirite because there’s more there than just getting caught up in the emotional moment and making a vow. (God takes vows seriously!) Again, this is like a buzz word, making Lou Engle look as tho he knows what he is talking about. He does not – otherwise he would teach all the requirements of a Nazirite. If he is truly a Christian he should take a closer look at what he is telling people because he is teaching them to do something other than what Christ does. In effect, he is causing a separation between Christ and His followers!

Being a Christian I must point out that upon salvation we are given the indwelling of the Holy Spirit who is Jesus Christ living with us, guiding, directing. The Holy Spirit is not a separate entity, but what is known as the third person – Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He reveals Jesus Christ. He has nothing of Himself for He is God. The Lord does not visit His people in special places. There are no longer places on earth set aside for worship or visitation. This was symbolized when Jesus was crucified and the curtain in the temple Holy of Holies was torn in two. It signified man now has access directly to God, not longer needing a priest or sacrifice to go before Him.

God treats all people as individuals and while we are called to pray we cannot repent on behalf of our nation and expect that will change things. It will not. Change will only happen when people recognize their need for a Savior, when they recognize Jesus Christ is the mediator, the one who came to reunite a sinful person with a Holy God. A God who loves us so much that He (Jesus) died for us. When we recognize this need and turn from our own selfish needs. we look to the needs of others, esteeming them more than ourselves, we can only truly love or care for another through the love of God Himself. The key aspect to anything we do is to preach the gospel. This other stuff is something other than true Christianity and I feel it of the utmost importance to show the difference as best I can. This world will continue it is sin and destruction until the return of Jesus Christ. Mankind will not change this nor will he ever be granted dominion in the way the NAR intends. They are far from the truth and must be exposed.

I have links to resources where much more information on these topics have been compiled in greater detail. I will be happy to supply them if you wish.

We are warned repeatedly in scripture of false teachers, prophets and doctrine, and that others will come in the name of Christ. This deception is very old. Please know there is a coming world leader who will take over control for a time. He will be political and religious and is known in the word as the antichrist. He will seem to be a man of peace, but only for a time. This is why it is of the utmost importance to know the difference between the true Christ and the imposter(s) and to be prepared.

The disasters on the earth happen because the earth itself is fallen. I do not believe this is God judging anyone yet. But that will come. These people who claim the storms and earthquakes, etc are judgments of God have no real way of knowing that with any certainty. To claim that we can come together and pray to avoid further devastation is an outright lie. Sheets is using fear to motivate others to follow him, manipulation is considered a form of witchcraft! It is enough to know that God allows the storms and disasters and there is no way of knowing if we will be included in the next one or not. Please be ready for what is to come on the earth.

Jesus said My Kingdom is not of this world – John 18:36
The promise and work of the Holy Spirit – John 14:26, 16:7-14
The purpose of Christ – John 3:16-17

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12 thoughts on “A Word Against the Wilderness Outcry

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  4. Thank you MKayla for the link you posted on my comment from truthspeakers, I have alot to think about and pray about. I am 33yrs old and early on when I was young I had this great fear of being decieved and a great awareness that I would be alive while end time events were unfolding. Which I think are evident today! I am not trying to be radical in that other than the bible teaching us (regardless) what kind of people we ought to be anticipating the coming of our Lord. I came back to the Lord about age 26 and only for the past 7years have completely surrendered my entire life to Christ. Since then I have been exposed to so much that is out there in the church right now and am really trying to learn to trust The Holy Spirit to guide me into all truth. My Christian experience has been through Teen Challenge(Started by David Wilkerson in New York in 1958). And I have been with them every since, been working at one of their centers for 5yrs. I just want so much to have a genuine, authentic, relationship with God and still cautious not wanting to fall into anything that is not Him. I have explored “The Call, Expression 58, the prayer houses, and other of these arenas” but have gone as a spectator seeking the truth and trusting God would lead me into it. I have never experienced any of what I saw happening to other people, and have never been slain in the spirit for that matter, but I have, I feel a solid sound relationship with God. I study to show myself approved unto God a workman who rightly devides the truth!!! I have often thought that God has protected me, and have often under my breathe expressed to the Lord “You know I dont need to have any of those experiences to believe you Lord!” Just really frustrated with whats out there and wanting to surround myself with people who are mature and sound in their doctrine so that I can be helped to grow!!! I still consider myself new in Christ although The Lord has given me alot of insight and wisdom because I am constantly asking Him. If you would pray for me and those of us that just want God and pressing in to find Him……………God Bless

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    • That is a wonderful testimony to God Mel. Thank you so much for sharing it with us!

      More and more I am convinced that we are not to “strive” to become something, but to dedicate ourselves to prayer and the word, trusting in the Lord who will make us complete in Him. After all, it is all about Jesus Christ and not ourselves.

      Merry Christmas.

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  5. Everyday I get on your BLOG, I feel like I get spiritual CPR! Thank you so much! Do you have a private email address available? Just curious.

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    • Yes, I do have an e-mail but I try to encourage the conversation here on the blog. I often find the topics and conversation that takes place in e-mails would have been helpful for others to read and comment. We get more information and feedback here than just one on one. Lately, it has been hard for me to keep up with the individual e-mail. Many of the other readers have knowledge in areas that exceed my own and I don’t like keeping people from that opportunity. If you feel it is absolutely private let me know at the top of the comment. More than more I am finding so many of our experiences as well as our needs and fears to be the same. We need each other!

      The CPR comment is cute. It is the Lord breathing His life back into your spirit. 🙂

      Blessings and peace in the Lord Jesus!

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