The Alignment of Political America and the NAR

I’ve been watching and writing about the heretical teachings of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) for a few months, not being sure why it seemed to be so important to do so. I don’t have a lot of experience with them because I never really “got” Chuck Pierce at all. However, there are some other prophets and apostles in this madhouse that I did follow (Cal Pierce, Cindy Jacobs, Dutch Sheets) and I guess that was enough for the Lord to impress on me the need for exposure.

Last night I began to come across some very good information offered by organizations who have researched the NAR much longer than I have. I am stunned to see the newly formed connection between political America and the demonic agenda of the NAR. No longer can it be confined only to a strange few. Follow the links I posted below – read and listen with great care. Yes, it will take some time as there is a lot of information. But, so important. You will see the connection between C Peter Wagner’s NAR and some of our government officials under the guise of patriotism and Godly values. It is time for great concern for those who will not join this movement, this building of a whole new “kingdom”.  Suddenly I understand the comments I read by those who were greatly concerned about Wilderness Outcry. What will this lead to? Are we ready to stand?

Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, and present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, to God our Savior Who alone is wise, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and forever. Amen. Jude 24-25

Apprising Ministries -Mayday and the New Apostolic Reformation

In response to the May Day event held this past Saturday at the Lincoln Memorial, Ingrid (Schlueter) and Sarah (Leslie) brought to listener attention a movement known as the New Apostolic Reformation. This title was coined by C. Peter Wagner during the 1990’s.

Featuring teachers such as Dutch Sheets, Cindy Jacobs and false prophetess Stacy Campbell, the New Apostolic Reformation is centered around a theology of dominionism. It teaches that Christians can take down demonic spirits in order to take back territories and institutions for Christ. The movement is post-millennial believing that Jesus will not return until Christians take over the 7 Mountains.

These “mountains” are institutions like the media, entertainment, the economy, etc. In other words, their eschatology requires that instead of reaching people with the gospel one heart at a time, they believe they are to conquer the earth one demonic spirit at a time and make the earth perfect so that Jesus can return. (Online source)

You can download and/or listen to this Crosstalk program right here.

Right Wing Watch – Mayday on the Mall

May Day 2010 has been organized around the “Seven Mountains” theology, which advocates the complete takeover of every aspect of contemporary culture by modern day “apostles” of Christ. The theology is rooted in the belief that Christians are meant to have dominion over literally everything and is focused on spiritually “invading” seven specific facets of modern life in order to wrest control away from Satan and his demonic spirits so that Christians can put them to use in bringing about God’s kingdom on Earth: (1) Business; (2) Government; (3) Media; (4) Arts and Entertainment; (5) Education; (6) Family; and (7) Religion.

Herescope :

The Coalescing of the Christian Right with Apostolic Dominion

The American political landscape has suddenly changed. A tumult is appearing in the land with the passage of health care reform. The Christian Right, with its years of courting political influence, is now poised to merge with the new Tea Party Movement. In times of crisis, natural or caused, things seem to happen faster and opportunities, that would take years, seem to happen in months. There is the scent of rebellion in the air.

R&R Revival and Revolt

Initially The Tea Party was populist, libertarian, limited government, anti-socialism and lower taxes, etc. But the first ever National Tea Party Conference in Nashville in February revealed that there has always been an overlap with Christian Right social issues. The Tea Party movement is in danger of being co-opted by the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and its radical agenda. Do the Tea Party folks realize what they are getting into?

20 thoughts on “The Alignment of Political America and the NAR

  1. Thanks for highlighting these organizations and people. I really appreciate your diligence in bringing to light the darkness posing as the light. It is amazing how much deception is with Christianity – then again it is Satan’s primary battle field.



  2. Ok Kids,

    If that’s not enough for ya, read this mission statement for the 2010 National Day of Prayer –


    The National Day of Prayer Task Force’s mission is to communicate with every individual the need for personal repentance and prayer, mobilizing the Christian community to intercede for America and its leadership in the seven centers of power: Government, Military, Media, Business, Education, Church and Family.

    THE SEVEN CENTERS OF POWER!!! AKA THE SEVEN MOUNTAINS OF INFLUENCE, only theirs is a little bit different, swapping Miliary for Entertainment. That’s even worse! It was Rick Joyner who had the so-called bloody vision (goal) of the war between Christians – those who are experienced based, aka “the blues” and those who are scripture based, “the grays”. Wasn’t the Civil War between the blues and the grays? hmmm…


  3. Oh gag! What must God think??? I agree. Anything that is teaching “we must take over” so Jesus can return, is under the same spirit as anti-christ. I do not see this is the word of God, at all. Instead I see, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE. It is going to get so bad that a real christian will not even have a place to call “church.” Uh, what am I sayijng? It is already like that. How people can keep on following these people is mind baffeling.


    • I know it. They’re caught up in it – the movement, the guru, the next word, dream, vision, FEELING. I bet most of them have dust on their bibles because they are so convinced these leaders are hearing from God. Who needs the written word when you have the spoken, fresh one? New wine!!! Ugh.


  4. Question: i have pondered for years. These people obviously believe what they are saying and “seeing” (visions, dreams, etc). Do you think they are “decieved” are deliberately leading down this path. Any thoughts? Blessings, Mike


    • Hi Mike.
      Yes, they are deceived having lent themselves to the false teaching of experienced based theology for one, and a misunderstanding of the five-fold ministry, end times, and most importantly the work of and person of the Holy Spirit. It is hard to say if they deliberately mislead, and in this I mean the effort to take people from God, or if they are so decieved in their spirits they no longer know the difference in the truth and believe they are truly working for the Lord. But one thing is very clear, they do not follow the truth in the word of God even in the most simplist things. I believe those who follow are in great danger having joined with them, sharing in their sins, having no love of the truth, but a love for the experience, the flesh, and in going after other gods. The spirit they claim to be the Holy Spirit is a demon. It speaks to them, leads them, manifesting in their bodies and minds creating for them these dreams and visions. It is their god. As time goes by less is said of the gospel and Jesus Christ in their teachings, the focus changing to “societal transformation” via the 7 mountains and market place ministry and the “prophetic word”. They teach that the people of God are to be led through the means of Apostles and Prophets and not through the power and truth of the Holy Spirit.

      We also need to consider that some of these organizations have taken up with the practice of other religions in areas such as contemplative prayer and lectio divina, etc. which is a push to bring in “interfaith”, the one world religion. If you go to the Christian bookstores many of them carry the writings of these emergent leaders such as Brian McLaren, Richard Foster, Dallas Willard, Rob Bell, etc. So what we are seeing is a joining of Christianity with the practice of Roman Catholicism, buddism and hinduism. This is a little off from the topic but we have already seen an alignment of IHOP, Bethel, Morningstar, Generals International, etc., many of which carry these authors and teachers in their stores.


    • That would be Rick Joyner and Todd Bentley. I haven’t heard of Jim Lafoon. Any information I have on Joyner would be slight as I wasn’t invovled with his ministry nor have I followed his teachings. Many believe him to be involved with Knights of Malta; he is very much into experienced- based theology, dreams and visions, word of faith, dominionism, etc. He is well known for his futuristic vision of a bloody war between the saints aka the blues and the grays. I’ve mentioned him here on the blog from time to time because of his involvement with Bentley, Bill Johnson, Cindy Jacobs, Bob Jones and Mike Bickle.

      What kind of info are you looking for?


    • Since you asked, I realized the search widget was missing from the sidebar. It probably disappeared when I changed themes. I reactivated it and it may help you get a little info on Morningstar.


  5. Last question: Most pew christians are oblivious to Dominion Theology. As I see it, its really just the “prophetic movement” that is teaching and pushing this agenda. Many christians would ask what’s wrong with taking over the country. The Lord knows the direction its going in. Is the argument that the NAR leadership will become a legalistic pharaseeical (sp) structure that will wield political as well as percieved “spiritual powers. Thanks for your time, Blessings, Mike


    • I think most of us have been taught to trust the one in the pulpit to the point that many no longer even bother opening their bibles. As far as Dominion Theology, it sounds good to those who have put themselves in a place of desperation to “do” for God. Helping others is a great thing, but without the gospel it is worthless. What good is bread if it is not given with the bread of life? The prophetic plays a huge part in the deception as those who operate under that false spirit lead others to believe in their own greatness and destiny, completely different from the experiences of true followers of Christ. The false prophetic is all about the person, not about the Lord, altho His name is stamped all over it. Many will come in My name – Matthew 24:4-5 – There it is; many are deceived.

      I agree with the conclusion on the NAR. Very dangerous – having a form of godliness yet having none of HIS power.


  6. What do Dominionist do with 2Thess 1:7??? How can they think there is some utopian future on earth before Jesus returns?

    5All this is evidence that God’s judgment is right, and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering. 6God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you 7and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels. 8He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power 10on the day he comes to be glorified in his holy people and to be marveled at among all those who have believed. This includes you, because you believed our testimony to you.


  7. Gidday all, I saw an interesting article on WND about the Bilderburger group (dont have the link) and what they are doing. They are the REAL dominionists bcos they have REAL cash, enough cash to put whom they want in office. The NAR may be a small cog in that machine. The mainline churches inc Catholic, also have similar dominionist eschatology to the NAR. Its all converging.

    According to natural reasoning, if peoples desire is for worldly wealth, position and power, then they must be dominionist by necessity. Dominionism would be the natural and only choice for them to justify their ambitions.


    • Interesting points Ian! If the NAR deems anyone to be of God they get on their prophetic for “such a time as this” bandwagon. They were all over Sarah Palin when McCain chose her to run as his VP. She probably had more false prophetic words spoken over her than Todd Bentely. It was nutty.

      I’ve heard of that Bilderburger group before! I was reading something the other day I found on the internet about the Dragon Family which were made up of past US presidents and the current. There were many correlations – whose related to whom and who was put into place as part of the “plan” – the banking system, etc. – very overwhelming. We have to keep reminding ourselves here in the US that what is to happen is not so much about here in this country as it is in Israel, Iran, Iraq, etc. Dominionism is all about power and money no matter if it is governmental or religion.


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