out of the fire –

A Dangerous Journey

At the beginning of 2010 I decided I wanted to get involved in a more passionate “Christianity”. I have always thought of myself as a worshipper & I craved being around others who lived & breathed worshipping the Lord.

Our church had been *pushing* & wanting revival to break out. So naturally I went home one day and decided to research about what “revival” actually was and how we could get it!  Through my discoveries I found out about The Welsh Revival, Charles Finney and others.

I wanted *revival* to break out in our church. The more I read about the “amazing” things that happened in Wales, the more I wanted that to happen to us.

This is a four-part testimony of a fellow blogger who the Lord delivered from what she calls “extreme Pentecostalism”.  Please go to Inerrant Word to read her story.

These are moments of rejoicing as we see the Lord pulls another out of the fire of false teaching and the grip of the demonic spirit.

Thank you Lord God for your faithfulness toward your own.

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21 thoughts on “out of the fire –

  1. This is such a wonderfully moving testimony. Isn’t is worth it all just to be able to see one saved out of the fire?! Makes all my whining seems so trivial and embarrassing and repentant! God is so gracious to us all. May we prayerfully, patiently and diligently continue to work, wait and look for the next that God is bringing out. To Him be the glory and praise.

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    • Pat, I have recently been considering the difference between the good feeling Christianity and what many of us are going through these days which can be described as anything but good-feeling. I think this is a hard road we walk and I don’t believe it will get easier. When we consider all that is going on in the world, and as we witness the death of the true Christian church it can all be hard to come to grips with. After all, were any of us prepared for this moment?

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  2. Thank you for putting this up. It is a breath of fresh air and is confirmation to so much that has been on my mind lately. I have heard so much over the years about a last days revival and I just do not see it in the Word. I see a great falling away, but nothing about revival. Not to say that there will not be people who will get revived — there will be. But it will be revival of brokeness and holiness. Not the stuff we have had to stomach over the past few decades. Even the Welsh revivals had me confused when I read about them years ago. something did not ring true — can’t say what, just something did not set right when i began to search some of the roots out to them.

    I have decided to go visit the Church of Christ. If i want something that is Bible only, away from the signs and wonders and crowd, away from false teachers, then this is where I must go. I am actually looking forward to going, sitting still, listening to the Word, sing hymns (without worship leaders manipulating my surroundings for a change, I may add.)I don’t expecet “excitement.” Don’t want it. Just a sense of stability. It is so good to know that there are others like me who have had threir fill of the charasmatic chaos. May we all find the place where God wants us.

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    • Hippie, I was in the Church of Christ for many years. They teach the false doctrine of baptismal regeneration – you must be baptized to be saved. They don’t believe in the Rapture and they don’t believe in eternal security of the believer. You may find some variations, but the baptismal regeneration is standard doctrine. This is a false salvation message. I still have family in this group, one of which was a pastor.

      Sorry, but trust me, you don’t want to get involved with these folks.

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      • humblepie, I cannot express how grieved I am to hear this. RH, don’t you lose heart. Remember there are many of us in this boat. And pastors scofff at home churches!

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  3. I left my charismatic church and went back to my home Mennonite Church. Within weeks, they were bringing in a pastor from a big church affiliated with Patricia King and the whole crowd. It seems everyone wants a me-centered mystical (and sensual) experience, something beyond simple faith and reading Scripture.

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    • agonyofvictory, i too came out of a Mennonite church some years ago. We had to leave becasue of gross false teachings that were being allowed. First, I tried to address it only to be poo pooed by leadership. Then my husband who is far more diplomatic than I, tried to address it and he too was shunned and told, “Perhaps it is better if you all leave.” We left. It has been the only church body I had known.

      I agree with you. It DOES seem like everyone is trying to be somebody by having thse people come to their churches. Imagine if they (we) spent as much energy in seeking the Lord’s favor as they do in seeking the favor of false teachers. THEN and only then will any of us ever be able to turn the world around with our testimonies!

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  4. I loved this testimony too and was amazed at how fast God led her out of the movement. What is frustrating is that I have a friend who is also in the movement but it has had the opposite effect on her than the woman in the article. My friend never seems to get selfish or me centered and all the negative traits that came out for that woman. She is always joyful and is giving etc…. So, she probably feels like it is all God because she has good fruit that comes from it. The only thing I see is that she does like to go to the conferences to get “filled” which I think is an addiction. I pray that my friend can see the truth…..

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    • Erin, there are joyful, giving people who have never met Jesus too. Attitude is not the only test, nor is giving. We see many rich people helping the poor. Without Jesus they remain lost.The bottom line is in who we follow. These conferences do not teach the true Jesus…so…it is another that has her full of “joy”. I can attest to the false side of joy as well, a false sense of security and hope that all seemed so real, and at times ecstatic, until the Lord started to break through it all and I found how dark it all truly was. Keep praying for your friend and don’t be frustrated. Rest in the Lord. 🙂

      Thanks for your comment. It is helpful to others Erin.

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    • Erin, I agree: your friend is addicted to these things. I once had a friend who was and still is “addicted” to all the stuff. 😦

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  5. Thank you for directing us to this testimony. It is amazing how this is infiltrating the mainline evangelical denominations. The higher leadership does not care, is ignorant, or supports it. I can really relate to the part in her testimony where she explains why the deceived viciously attack their position and practices. My husband and I are currently facing ugly attacks from our former pastor for sharing why we left with a current member. If what they are doing is so right, why not just rest in the Lord and trust Him to lead people into the truth. Their cultish response speaks loudly to whom they serve. There is another fleshly jesus being preached. My current prayer is for courage and wisdom in sharing the truth in love, with those who are deceived.

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    • Thanks for your input RJ. So many of us here and on other blogs can relate to the treatment you are experiencing. I don’t think any of us were prepared for what we are currently facing, but here we are. Praise God he showed us the way out, and since He has He will continue to use those experiences to help others.

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  6. Wow. What stood out the most for me was the desire to “feel in love” with Jesus – that passion that is taught (I think mainly) by Mike Bickle/IHOP/”bridal paradigm” and also a bit by John Eldridge. If you read some ancient history, you can see that this was a major theme in the pagan worship of the Assyrians, Babylonians, and other cultures. Granted we’re not seeing actual temple prostitutes, but the pursuit is very similar.

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    • Not actual prostitutes, but let’s consider the “marriage to Jesus” ceremony that Bickle holds for the young and Lou Engle’s Nazirite vows. Pretty close. The “in love with” Jesus theme has been carried by many voices in charismania/manifest sons group.

      Amazing that it stems from ancient pagan worship, isn’t it? I believe it was also the warning made by Paul in Ephesus. I have read some of those scriptures refer to the much needed distinctions between the pagan practices and Christians.

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  7. Last night I attended a Jesus Culture concert with a friend in Seattle. She had a free ticket and really needed someone to go with. I did it as a favor and do like some of their music but don’t like that they are from Bethel. I think I was the only one not jumping around with my hands in the air. I just couldn’t get into it. They had a man come out every so often to “preach” to the crowd but I never heard the whole gospel. I heard things like “We need to seek Jesus”, “revival is coming to Seattle”, “a new sound/music is going to come out of Seattle” (I’ve heard this before), “when you pray, you are irresistible to God and He will come to you/answer your prayers” and so on. Nothing about humility and being a slave to Christ. Those might be downers and the crowd might stop jumping up and down. 🙂 Then they had a time of prayer where we gathered in groups of 3 (the band kept playing of course) and we prayed for colleges in the area. I thought that maybe this would be a positive thing but the band leader started praying his own prayer through the mic as he ran around on the stage and you couldn’t even hear yourself think. I guess he was wanting to keep up the energy and chaotic vibe of the evening (the strobe lights helped out too). There was about 4 minutes when the band played quiet background music and people began to pray in tongues. As if right on cue, as the tongues crescendoed, my friend almost keels over from “feeling the spirit and the atmosphere change”. She said that she can feel when the presence of God settles on the crowd. What I felt I saw was a false spirit manifest itself in her when it liked what it heard. She also heard the spirit say, “Where are my burning ones?” meaning where are my prayer warriors?

    Anyway, I never felt the presence of God but worse than that, I never heard the Gospel.

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    • STROBE LIGHTS?????
      So much for “everything should be done in order”, huh? None of this has anything to do with Christ. What a mission of wasted energy, money and time!

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