touched by another spirit

I believe this scripture to be a great explanation when Christians become influenced by the demonic in it’s various forms of false teachings, impartations, practice of things pagan, and false prophetic words. I’ve found need to use it twice today, and feel it may be helpful for many others who have found themselves so influenced.

2 Corinthians 11:3-5

3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it!

Dealing with its influence is as simple as repentance, asking the Lord to remove anything unholy that may have touched or influenced us.  It is first necessary to realize and to confess that our acceptance of and practice of these things not taught in scripture, or in excess of it, is sin.

1 John 1:9 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

God is faithful We not only have the assurance of forgiveness, but we hold fast to our confession – our hope.

Hebrews 10:19 Therefore, brethren, having boldness to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh, 21 and having a High Priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful.

Being rooted and grounded in our faith, to God be the glory!

Ephesians 3:14 14 For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,15 from whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, 16 that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man, 17 that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height— 19 to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.
20 Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, 21 to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever.

Amen.

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22 thoughts on “touched by another spirit

  1. We put up with – Christian yoga??? Rick Warren’s New Age gurus? Contemplative Prayer? Labyrinths? Dear Lord – purge the Church of all of these!!

    PS – Can you tell I’ve been watching Caryl’s movies? LOL 🙂

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    • Put up with, wellllll – yeah, when all we hear from pastors are excuses for the false teachers… I seriously do not think they will be purged, but we are the ones to come out. This is what I see going on.

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  2. My husband and I have discussed the line about our minds being corrupted from the simplicity in Christ. Sometimes when I try to read some of the things “out there” I just think I must be a really dumb person, because I can’t understand what they are saying. It isn’t on the level or plane that I converse on and my friends also. I don’t have big words in my vocabulary, I am simple. Wasn’t it Paul who said I come not with eloquent speech, but with simply the gospel? Can’t remember verse and chapter. I think I have to get out a thesaurus when I hear some of them speak.

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    • These false teachers, apostles and prophets aren’t on the same wave length, they like to put on airs as tho they have great knowledge the rest do not, to keep the people in awe of them, yet they don’t speak truth, just lies. A great point you made there! I appreciate the input.

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  3. A friend’s comment – Spiritual deception in the church creates the entrance of those weird (demonic) manifestations. When i got out and repented they left. The false revival, strange fire, selling of the annointing is an invitation to satan himself. I have seen it in different places with different false teachings and very few discern that it is not of God. People falling down, almost knocked off their feet….not the Holy Spirit, so “drunk in the spirit’ they can not walk….out it comes if you want this annointing you can sow into it and fall down too!!!! i felt very disturbed in my spirit and i heard God saying leave now…..i did. The practice of being slain in what spirit that is the question??? when participating in all that i was tormented in dream and night terrors, when i got away and repented and got back to basics…..delivered!! It is sad when church is more dangerous then the world………i pray for those still decieved daily that they would wake up!!

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  4. M’Kayla,

    My friend who attends these prophetic conferences just went to another a few weeks ago in a town near you and me. This time there was what she called a “breakthrough” and healings in people who had metal in their bodies happened like she’s never seen before at a conference. An evangelist named Dr. James Maloney spoke and had the “gift of knowledge” from an “angel” who assisted him. My friend said that he was the most accurate with the most details than she had ever heard in her life. A woman who had been in a car accident and had lots of metal in her foot and spine actually grew straighter and taller and was very close to going into shock from the healing. Even though my brain tells me that the Holy Spirit doesn’t work this way, it is so hard to tell my friend that this is not God at all because I guess there is a little part of me that trusts my friend to discern the truth and maybe she saw God at work. When my friend and I were saying goodbye, she grabbed my arm and said, “Earnestly desire the spiritual gifts”. She said that wasn’t her talking but the Lord since she is “prophetic”. I either have to believe that this was God, Satan or her flesh speaking to me. I’ve come a long way but for some reason I’m not confident enough in my new belief to tell her. I could use a little help….. 🙂

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    • Erin, is this the same friend we have been talking about? She is quite deceived and unwilling to seek the truth, tho she seems to have no problems seeking the workings of these wolves. This is the deception that has swept over and taken Christianity. While it is true we should seek the gifts, we should also be able to judge and discern that which is true from that which is false. The way we do this is thru reading and searching the word of God to gain an understanding of who Christ is, His reason for coming, what He taught while here and the charge He gave to His followers.

      I am not afraid to say these healing revival meetings are nothing more than meetings of satan himself and for all the reasons we have already discussed and the reason why I started my blog. A Christian researcher recently spoke with a physician regarding these “metal healings” and was told it is impossible. I know the first knee jerk reaction is to say that nothing is impossible with God and that is biblically true. Christ did not come to heal in this way, He came to save the lost. These “healers” and “prophets” are liars, they do not have the gift of healing and they do not have the gift of prophecy. If people were being healed of these things their stories would be all over the media, the news, youtube, twitter, etc., there would be no holding them back!

      I know of others who came in the name of the Lord with a message given from an angel – William Brahman of the latter rain was one, another was Joseph Smith, whose angel named Moroni established Mormonism, Todd Bentley whose female angel’s name was Emma, Bob Jones who has had countless visits, and I personally head Cal Pierce of the healing rooms speak of direction given to him by his own angel, and John Lake had one presiding over his healing room previous to Pierce’s, or maybe they were the same angel. I am sure there are more. Angelic visitation has a great emphasis on these false ministries, but the same is said of spirit guides of the new age and native American religions. So how is it we decide whether it is an angel of God or an angel of the enemy? It is in the message they bring. Angels do not bring gifts as claimed by Joanne McFadder, gifts are given by God alone and as He wills, nor healing, only God can heal – big points right there! I had my own spirit messengers who I believed were angels, they spoke to me and appeared to me in dreams. I could feel their presence and hear the words as tho it was a person right there with me. As far as the prophetic, the same applies, but it was nothing more than what we see going on with psychics; familiar spirits have the ability to know things, intimate things about the people they hang around and so are highly accurate in the information they provide. I have to wonder about the woman who was “going into shock from the healing” – does that sound like God? No. But it does sound like some kind of demonic possession/oppression.

      Your friend is lost in this unless she is willing to hear the truth. There may come a time necessary for you to separate from her for your own salvation’s sake. We are not called to put up with this, we are called to take a firm stand against it. Erin, it is only going to get worse and by that, it will get quite ugly.

      Remember, the first words of Jesus to His disciples when they inquired to His coming again was a warning that no one deceive them – Matthew 24. This advice has been thrown out with all kinds of false signs and wonders, people seeking after the flesh – healing, gifts, manifestations – more than the true word of God, which would be given for their benefit, finding that we are complete in Christ -Col 2:6-10. Anyone who brings a gospel or message different than that of the Lord (not finding it in scripture) is accursed – Galatians 1:1-10. We are told to not lay hands on another hastily – 1 Timothy 6:22 Walk wisely my friend.

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  5. I know….. you are right. I keep asking God to just give me a SURE sign that my friend is wrong so I can show her. She is 150% confident that all this is true and said that people couldn’t feel the metal in bodies after the healing where before they could feel it. I believe Satan CAN do miracles for the sake of keeping his followers though. For the past year or two I have been in this position where most of me knows it’s not of God but I can’t tell her that I believe that yet until I have more “proof”. I personally stopped listening to the prophetic speakers and going to conferences but I haven’t taken a stand with my friend yet. Thank you for your e-mail. I am going to pray about it more – I’ve kind of put it on a shelf because I was still confused.

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  6. Hi Erin,

    As one among many who has spent years researching the Charismatic movement and their claims, there is not one shred of evidence to prove that “metal” healings are taking place. If they were, I guarantee they would make worldwide news, and be written about in medical journals.

    In fact, the doctors and people in the medical field I have talked to think it’s a joke, and rightly so. If people were being healed of all sorts of illnesses and diseases, they would know about it.

    Further, part of Jesus’ earthly ministry involved healing the sick and raising the dead. This was proof of His being the Messiah. Also, the apostles had the Biblical gift of healing. They healed the sick and raised the dead through the power of God. This was evidence of their being apostles of the true Messiah.

    If the “leaders” within the Charismatic movement had the Biblical gift of healing (like the Biblical apostles), where is the proof? Why aren’t people being raised from the dead from morgues, funeral homes, and cemeteries?

    The answer is simple: they do not have the gift of healing. But what they do have is the ability to con people into thinking they have the gift. The sick and dying show up at crusades and revivals with the hope of being healed. But they leave the same way they came in–sick and dying.

    And, the faith healers leave with money jingling in their pockets.

    Indeed, faith healers are liars. They prey upon the weak and innocent, and those who are in serious pain and desperate to be healed. They put on a good circus act, but it is not of God.

    Erin, M’Kayla gave you some good advice. Listen to her, and do not allow your friends or family to lure you away from the Jesus of the Bible and the truth of His word.

    God bless,

    Bud Press

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  7. Erin:

    Here are two good rules to follow that I learned many years ago:

    1. If I need money, should I pray and ask God if it’s okay to rob the local bank? No, because God has already said, “Thou shalt not steal” (Exodus chapter 20).

    2. When a person says, “Jesus appeared to me and told me when He is coming back,” what do we do? Do we take his word for it? Or, do we see what Jesus has to say? In Matthew chapter 24, Jesus tells us do not believe those who claim to see Him. So, we believe Jesus over what anyone says.

    Christians are to study God’s written word, the Bible, and believe it–regardless of what men or women say. If we will do that, God will bless us with discernment.

    Erin, Jesus is in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. If you will become an expert on the real Jesus of the Bible, you will not be deceived by the false “Jesus” (Galatians chapter 1; 2 Corinthians chapter 11).

    God bless,

    Bud Press

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    • Thank you Bud. I appreciate you helping me. Do you think it is possible that Satan allows false healings even for a short time so that his followers continue to be deceived by him? My prophetic friend whom I spoke about also heals people at her church and some people really don’t have that ache and pain anymore! SOMETHING is going on whether it be God or Satan. My friend said that people couldn’t feel the metal in their body at the conference where before they could feel the edge or tip of it. It just seems to me that in the cases where someone was REALLY relieved of a pain or whatever by a false healer, it COULD be Satan.

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  8. Erin:

    I apologize for the delay. I have read your comments carefully, and offer the following. Prior to posting the below comments, I consulted with a close Christian friend, who happens to be a Bible scholar.

    Lucifer (who became Satan), is a created being and a former anointed cherubim angel. Prior to his fall, he was convinced he could “raise his throne above the stars of God” and make himself “like the Most High.” But his hopes of ruling over Almighty God and the universe was only a pipe dream. God clearly demonstrated Who was in charge and booted Lucifer and one-third of the angels out of heaven (Ezekiel chapter 28; Genesis chapter 3; Isaiah chapter 14; Revelation chapter 12).

    Currently, Satan is the “prince of the power of the air,” who roams the earth like a roaring lion, seeking to kill and destroy (Ephesians 2:2; 1 Peter 5:8). His future is doomed: “And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever” (Revelation 20:10).

    Now, there is only one God, who exists as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Again, God created Lucifer, who became Satan. Satan is not omnipotent (all- powerful), omnipresent (everywhere at one time), or omnicient (all-knowing). Only God has those attributes.

    Satan is evil and wickedness personified (study John chapter 8). He hates God and His creation. As a created being, he and his demons do not have the power to heal, nor do they have the power to create. Also, heavenly angels do not have the power to heal or create.

    Satan does, however, perform “lying wonders” and phoney miracles. Think of him as a master magician, who plays mind games on his audience, and uses trickery and slight-of-hand to make things appear and disappear. Satan works through false prophets and false teachers to accomplish his goals. He is the master deceiver.

    Consider this: If Satan could heal, why are so many faith healers being exposed for false healings? Why are the sick and dying leaving the “healing” crusades the same way the came in? Why do faith healers make excuses when amputated arms and legs aren’t restored, or when children suffering from crippling diseases are still confined to wheelchairs?

    If Satan could heal, he would be a great benefit to faith healers, false prophets, and false teachers. As such, many more people would be drawn into Satan’s web of deception.

    When Jesus returns, every believer will be healed and transformed (1 Corinthians chapter 15; Romans chapter 8). Until then, pay no attention to people who claim to be “prophets of God”. Deuteronomy 18:19-22 teaches us not to be afraid of false prophets (study Ephesians chapter 5; Romans chapter 16; and Acts 20:27-31).

    As for those who claim to be healed from all sorts of debilitations, diseases, and illnesses, let me just say that pain is real. When doctors give up hope, sometimes those in pain become desperate, and seek other ways to relieve their pain. Sometimes, they turn to faith healers, who welcome them with open arms, and provide “hope” and promises to be healed.

    But, feelings, emotions, and anticipation are real too. Ask anyone who suffers from pain if they would like to be healed, and they will shout “YES!” And, if they are made to think they can be healed, then the faith healer’s scam is almost complete (the following articles will help you understand the mind-set of a faith healer, and what God says about false prophets):

    http://www.christianresearchservice.com/Manasseh_Jordan3.htm

    http://www.christianresearchservice.com/God&FalseProphets.htm

    Keep in mind that adrenaline flowing through a person’s body plays a role in how they perceive things. For example, when a person in pain attends a “healing” crusade, their feelings, emotions, anticipation, and excitement of being healed causes adrenaline to flow, which generally provides temporary relief from pain.

    Soldiers who have been wounded in combat do extraordinary things. Small people are able to lift heavy weights. People with legitimate physical problems are able to run and jump up-and-down. Adrenaline, coupled with feelings, emotions, and anticipation can cause the sick and dying to think and feel that they have been healed. But it is only temporary. When the crusade is over, and when the excitement has calmed down, the adrenaline stops flowing. It is then when the sick and dying realize they haven’t been healed.

    Sadly, when faith healers say (or imply) that the sick and dying are healed, many stop taking their medicine and cancel their doctors’ appointments. They placed their faith in the faith healer. And, many paid the ultimate price.

    Finally, what looks legitimate on the outside may be fake and deadly on the inside. Pray for those who are deceived, but stay away from them, or you will be drawn into their web of deception and turned away from the true and living God. I have seen it happen many times.

    Erin, study your Bible, and never be afraid to ask questions. Stay close to those who care about you and your spiritual welfare. They will help you grow as a Christian.

    God bless,
    Bud Press

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  9. Thank you Bud for taking the time to answer my question. Last week I had prayed to God to really give me a strong sign that I am on the right path (he has given me many signs before too) and I feel that with you and M’Kayla taking the time to help me that it was another sign from God. Many blessings to you and your ministry!

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  10. I love that you are keeping Christians on their toes and exposing any false teachers or prophets. however, Jesus did say that we will be gifted to lay hands on the sick and cast out demons. Ive been healed by Jesus 7 or 8 times. Christ is indeed our healer. The power comes from Him. But I do believe He uses people, His faithful, for good works. I myself have cast out evil spirits and the person was made well. Please do not be so close-minded as to throw the baby out with the bath water. However, in conclusion, I am very leery of anyone who claims they hear from God, who says they are healers and the like. Its of up most importance that we test the Spirits and pray to God for discernment. I only read this post and its replies. Not your entire blog. Gods word says He will pour His Spirit down upon us in the end times.

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    • I am not closed minded at all,not one bit. I have experienced the false teachings, the false prophetic, the bizarre manifestations that come thru their ways. There is a defined difference between the power of God and the deception of Satan. If you haven’t read much here you are not aware of my experience. And this is the reason why I started the blog. So spend some time, hear me, hear my readers and you will quickly see the difference.

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  11. This is what I have experienced too of James Maloney’s ministry..A lady at a conference I was at went for prayer and healing as she had metal plates inserted following a car accident and she was in constant pain..Those at the front said they saw the melted metal on the floor as she was ‘healed’..,The Lady could not return to the room for the rest of the conference and told another friend she was still in severe pain in spite of having just been ‘ healed’..
    James Maloney’ s testimony that I’ve heard and read shares that he had an abusive childhood and was terrorised by demonic activity in his home..He came in contact with the Jesus movement I’m adulthood and came under the influence of Frances Metcalf and other ‘praying ladies’ who took him into the room in a house where beings hung from the walls ascending and descending.. Someone would be absent from the group and when he enquired where they were it seems he eventually learned they’ d been up in Heaven and later returned and this seemed to be an ongoing thing.
    I feel quite upset because I had receives so much spiritual uplifting encouragement from the conferences until this occasion and now can’t believe that they are embracing this as sound doctrine..all about the Glory which is James Maloney’s big subject.,.I pray this gets revealed for the deception it is surely..but not because I want to condemn the people… I just want us all to see clearly what is of God and what isn’t before time runs out and this deception claims souls..

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    • Helen, you may want to revisit what you believed you received as uplifting spiritual encouragement and hold those experiences under the great scrutiny of scripture. For me, I would think anything we receive from the Lord cannot be taken from another’s downfall.

      Jeremiah 23:29 “Is not My word like fire?” declares the LORD, “and like a hammer which shatters a rock?
      2 Corinthians 10:5 We tear down arguments, and every presumption set up against the knowledge of God; and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

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