Escape the Lie, An Interview

Looky what just “escaped” from the internet:

Escape From Bethel

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The website containing my interview is no longer in operation. Just “poof” and it is no longer there, along with the contact e-mail. Not sure if it will be available. Just will wait and see. Sorry all.

Here is the audio of an interview I did this morning exposing the trap and darkness of “Bethel”.

Pass it on.

A former “Seer Prophet” tells her story and helps to expose the false teachings of Bill Johnson, Todd Bentley, John Paul Jackson and others. The Healing Rooms and Word of Faith ministries

It has been brought to my attention that his other site supports AA and 12 Stepping, Celebrate Recovery. I understand these practices to not be of God and I am not condoning or supporting them in any way. I believe Christ is enough. You will find links of supporting information against these programs from My Word Like Fire in the comments section for more info on these topics. It is only my intention, as it has been since the beginning of my blogging days, to support Christianity in it’s true form, as found written in the word of God.

Echo Zoe Interviews Sandy Simpson

Wow! Lookie what I found! – 🙂

For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.2 Corinthians 11:13

Sandy Simpson, of the Apologetics Coordination Team, joins me to discuss the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). Sandy runs Deception in the Church, an extensive library of resources on the NAR and related movements and organizations.

Link to Echo Zoe  – article and podcast!

Unveiling a False Prophecy

Lots of “prophetic words” going around these days. How about the self-proclaimed prophets who claim God did or God said because of the nation’s sin was great, because the people refuse to repent, and the one that said the disaster struck because the nation is shaped like the head of a dragon? Did God not create the world?

Listen to the words of Jesus –

Luke 13:1-5

1 There were present at that season some who told Him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. 2

And Jesus answered and said to them, “Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things?

3 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.

4 Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem?

5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”

Disasters that come upon the earth are not because of the nation’s great sin or because the people are worse sinners.  The earth is in a fallen state because of sin. And no one knows what will happen next or to whom it will happen. So repent and be ready and stop listening to the false prophets who only want to scare you into following after them and their revelation of stupidity. The bible shows you the truth right here, right here. 🙂

And to the followers of the false prophets who are warning about the big one in California. I grew up in CA and lived there all of my life until I moved a few years ago. We were always hearing about the “big one” to hit CA, that would cause it to become an island, that would create beach front property in Arizona. I noticed these sayings when I was a small girl! You imagine. These predictions did not come by way of “prophetic word”. They came from scientists and seismologists who had been studying the earth, the San Andreas Fault Line for years! So, please, be careful of who you listen to and why you have lent your ear.

The Grandiose Claim of a False Prophet

Sigh –  A   big   one.

I’ve put this off for two days, so let’s just get on with it and be done. Shall we?

This is a video in which Cindy Jacobs gives a prophetic word to her pray-ers at theCall Sacramento earlier this month which seems to have caused God to shut down “human trafficking” on Craigslist. I found the article Tuesday on Right Wing Watch here.

Here is their clip and transcription follows –

RWW’s transcription (Cindy Jacobs speaking)

At one point there was a whole section on fighting human trafficking, sex trafficking, repenting of involvements in pornography and so forth and our friend Nancy Alcorn had her girls up who they had rescued from prostitution and so many things, some had actually been trafficked, been captured. And as we prayed there was a section where these girls were asked to go back, away from the platform, there was a cross, a big cross set up, and they kneeled down and began to pray and I gave them a prophecy and I said “could it be that even right now, as we speak, that that God, the just God, wants to give you a sign that he is going to break the back of sex trafficking.”

And so they cried out for freedom and they cried out and asked God to do that and right after that we received word that Craigslist was going to begin to censor some of the things that were coming over their list concerning pornography and adult content. And we just felt it was a huge victory.

Yes, I’ve verified that Jacobs was at theCall Sacramento.

From TechnologyLive

Craigslist has shut down its controversial “Adult Services” section — by replacing the link to that section with the word “censored” written in bold letters on a black background, as you can see for yourself by clicking to its flagship San Francisco website.

Craigslist is the online classified ads service, launched in 1995 by entrepreneur Craig Newmark. It maintains online communities in numerous cities, featuring free classified advertisements to consumers. It makes money by selling paid ads for jobs and apartments.

The self-censoring appears to be in response to this letter from attorneys general in 18 U.S. states to Newmark and Craigslist CEO Jim Buckmaster. The AGs insisted that Craigslist “immediately take down” the Adult Services section. Here’s why, according to an excerpt from the AGs’ letter:

In our view, the company should take immediate action to end the misery for the women and children who may be exploited and victimized by these ads. Because craigslist cannot, or will not, adequately screen these ads, it should stop accepting them altogether and shut down the Adult Services section.

Steve Jones, a professor of communication at the University of Illinois in Chicago who has studied Internet culture, told the AP that if Craigslist has left the adult services business for good, it won’t likely diminish the online market for sex acts. The business will likely shift to other adult sites, perhaps based outside the United States. “I bet there are people today who are registering domain names and saying: ‘Business opportunity for me,'” he said. (emphasis mine)

This, my friends, is a great example of false prophecy and NAR dominionism in action. This is their false gospel message in which there is no personal repentance required and no call for that repentance. There is however, a lot of impressive sounding words, supposed repenting on the behalf of others, but no call to the Father for those involved in sin to repent. Just a claim that He will change the situation. The false prophetic movement believes one can make a declaration straight out of their head and even call it a prophecy and God will have to act on it. This is because they believe they have the same authority and anointing as Jesus Christ. These “prophecies” are not according to God’s will, but according to their will.

Cindy Jacobs is all about societal transformation. No situation changes unless the heart of the person involved is changed. There must be repentance. A person must come to the place where they recognize their sin and their need of a saviour. For without this they are forever lost. And all that looove, all those good sounding words and warm fuzzies will not mean a thing the day they stand face to face with God.

John the Baptist stated “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.” From John 1:29

Now, don’t get me wrong. The decision Craigslist made was a very good one indeed and I applaud them. And I applaud those who came forward to put pressure on them to do what is right.  However, it was an executive decision in which Craigslist heeded the pressure put on them by 18 State Attorneys General. What CEO in his right mind would not? And there is hope that the women and children who could have been hurt by those ads will not be. Maybe some will be saved the horror. This is the societal side of the situation.

However, there is a Christian side to look at here, as this woman, Cindy Jacobs claims to be a prophet of God. There has been no repentance of those who put up those kinds of ads, those who are involved in human trafficking who use women and children to their own gain. Preventing sin or “societal transformation” is not bringing about repentance.  But this is the plan of the NAR which is to take over sections of America, maybe the world, and bring about ways to control the behavior of America’s people. This will be accomplished through their “prophets and apostles” and their laws, not repentance. (Excuse the digress.)

Back to my point: Most bars close between 2 am and 6 am and during those hours it is illegal to serve alcoholic beverages to anyone. However, it is not illegal to drink during those hours in your own home. And those who frequent the bars – I am talking bar flies here – do not have a change of heart, are not repentant because they can’t drink at their bar. They are just sober and thirsty for more, waiting for the time to come and the doors will be open to them. So,  because there has been no repentance on the part of human/sex traffickers, they will simply take their business and their sin elsewhere, thirsty for more as other doors open to them.  As the wise man quoted in Technology Live article, they will see a business opportunity.  Nothing has changed in the great scheme of human trafficking as this false prophet has claimed. The only thing different is the geography of the same sin. The back of sex trafficking as Jacobs prophesied is not broken, but strong as always.

May God protect the innocent and the unsuspecting from the horror that is to come on them. The ways of man are evil. God help us reach the lost.

around and around the seven mountains we go


Pray and A.C.T.

And so we have yet another gathering of Catholics and Evangelicals, (ala Bill Bright’s unity theory) joining  with false prophets, teachers and politicians to fast and pray. The prayer and fasting for 40 days and 40 nights will be in large gathering places and broadcast on notGodtv (false prophet Wendy Alec supported and broadcast Bentley’s “Outpouring”).  Once again an attempt is being made to turn America back to its Godly covenental roots/heritage/destiny. (See link above.)

Lou Engle believes that because God performed various things in 40 days or 40 years that there is a correlation between the 1960’s and this year, as there is a span of 40 years in between. (Actually, they started harping on this in 2008 because that marked a 40 year period since the “summer of love” in 1968.  Well, the 40 year period has come and gone 2 years ago by my calculation. It didn’t work. But, it’s kinda sorta still 40 years, so why not keep on it, right?) It is a grave mistake to expect God to perform in a way that is against His plan or will. Irreprerable damage has been done to the faith – believers, ministires, churches and families – out of man’s expectation or imagination of “what God is doing now”.

Engle thinks our country has been in a downfall since the 60’s. Well, I have news Lou, sin existed way before that, it just became more open and free. People did drugs and had sex and were slothful way before 1968. They were just more inclined to do it behind closed doors. Besides, shortly after the beginning there was a garden…

Listen, prayer and voting are very good things and we should make our requests known to God and voice our opinions and expectations of our leaders who are in fact servants of the people. To this I will add most of them have forgotten that! But this group of people are not following the way of the Lord in dilligently seeking Him and His ways. They twist the bible to say what they want it to, they prophecy false words and mislead untold numbers. That is not a good thing for anyone regardless of the good intentions they may have or seem to have.

Jim Garlow, Chuck Colson, Mike Huckabee and Lou Engle joining forces…

Friends, we as a nation will now determine which way the door will swing.  We face unprecedented challenges to three foundational principles of justice and the common good:

  • The sanctity of human life in all stages and conditions
  • The sacredness of marriage as the covenantal union of husband and wife
  • The right to religious liberty and respect for conscience

These principles are moral treasures of our civilization.  They have played indispensable roles in preserving the great experiment in republican government and ordered liberty bequeathed to us by the Founders of our Nation.

We must work tireless in all the “seven spheres of cultural influence:” (1) the home, (2) the church, (3) civil government / law / military, (4) business / technology, (5) education, (6) media, and finally (7) arts / entertainment / professional sports.

(I hadn’t realized those three items were a part of a great experiment. I thought they were given to us by God – to not murder is a commandment, marriage is between husband and wife only, and yes, America does provide the freedom to worship …but to say these are experiments…hmmm

Seven spheres means the seven mountains which spells dominionism…and you know what that means…the NAR is here again. AND see how they carved out “professional sports”. Where would America BE without football, baseball, basketball and hockey?)

Yes, yes this is all tied in with the Manhattan Declaration which they are asking all participants to sign.

Here’s the cast list:

Che Ahn, Harvest International Ministry

Vonette Bright, Co-Founder, Campus Crusade for Christ International

Bishop Keith Butler, Founding Pastor, Word of Faith International Christian Center

Jim Daly, President & CEO, Focus on the Family

Lou Engle, TheCall to Conscience, TheCall

Father Joseph Fessio, Editor in Chief, Ignatius Press, San Francisco

Maggie Gallagher, National Organization for Marriage

Professor Robert George, Princeton University

Professor Timothy George, Dean, Beeson Divinity School

Jack Hayford, Founder and Chancellor, The King’s College and Seminary

Mike Huckabee, Former Governor of Arkansas & Host, The Mike Huckabee Show

Bishop Harry Jackson, Jr., High Impact Leadership Coalition

Cindy Jacobs, Generals International

Alveda King, Silent No More Awareness Campaign

Richard Land, The Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission

Ron Luce, Founder, Teen Mania & Battle Cry

Bishop Richard Malone, Roman Catholic Diocese of Portland (Maine)

Eva Muntean & Dolores Meehan, Co-Founders, West Coast Walk for Life, San Francisco

Penny Nance, Concerned Women for America

Tony Perkins, Family Research Council

James Robison, Life Outreach International

Samuel Rodriguez, National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference

Alan Sears, Alliance Defense Fund

Chuck Stetson, Let’s Strengthen Marriage Campaign

Steve Strang, Publisher, Charisma magazine

Tim Wildmon, American Family Association

Jay Richards, Senior Fellow, Discovery Institute

I believe we would have much more success in turning this nation if people who claimed to stand for God would simply preach the gospel. Change can only happen through repentance and in following Christ. He is the only one who can change a heart. When the heart is changed so are decisions. Fasting and prayer alone will not do the job, not to mention the fact that Jesus warned against public and repetitive prayer and fasting. God gives everyone a free will to make their own life choices and He will not violate that free will regardless of all the prayers for Him to do so. It is only through Christ that we are free.

So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17

I didn’t want to spend a whole lot of writing on this as I’ve already done that in other articles although there is a lot going on here. It’s mostly just a head’s up to what is taking place and who again is joining forces in false doctrine. Remember dominionism taught by the NAR is a false doctrine that teaches believers Christ cannot return until they take the world over (take dominion) for His kingdom. This is accomplished using their gifts through the seven mountains of influence. There is no truth in their doctrine which truly denies the supremacy of Christ.

Pray for those who are caught up in this dangerous false teaching and blinded from seeing the truth.


More reading:

NAR

Prayer Rally

Lou Engle

Cindy Jacobs

James Dobson

Ron Luce

a bit more info and history on the dreaded nar

Ken Silva at Apprising Ministries has brought together some very good points regarding the NAR and Rick Warren, aided by Sandy Simpson at Deception Ministries. Here is a bit, but be sure to go to Apprising and read Ken’s article and the links to make sure you get all the necessary info. Especially read the link entitled “heresy is not a mistake, it is a sin”. It blows the cover off those who would say false teachers are “off” or a little wrong, or we all make mistakes, blah, blah. I doubt our Lord sees it that way!

Latter Rain heresy is likened to pioneers making “mistakes”.  Latter Rain heretics were only pioneers in the sense of pioneering age old heresies in the 20th century.  Heresy is not a mistake, it is a sin, and one we are to reject … Wagner claims God began speaking these Latter Rain things again.  Does God speak heresy?

What was the reason these things were not taught in the Congregational Church and other places, though they had been taught at Fuller back in the 1970s on forward?  Because the Church generally recognized the tenets of the Latter Rain to be heresy!  The stark reality is that C. Peter Wagner knew about the Latter Rain at least as long ago as 1989 when Paul Cain came out to visit John Wimber, C. Peter Wagner’s employee at Fuller. (Online source)

The Alignment of Political America and the NAR

I’ve been watching and writing about the heretical teachings of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) for a few months, not being sure why it seemed to be so important to do so. I don’t have a lot of experience with them because I never really “got” Chuck Pierce at all. However, there are some other prophets and apostles in this madhouse that I did follow (Cal Pierce, Cindy Jacobs, Dutch Sheets) and I guess that was enough for the Lord to impress on me the need for exposure.

Last night I began to come across some very good information offered by organizations who have researched the NAR much longer than I have. I am stunned to see the newly formed connection between political America and the demonic agenda of the NAR. No longer can it be confined only to a strange few. Follow the links I posted below – read and listen with great care. Yes, it will take some time as there is a lot of information. But, so important. You will see the connection between C Peter Wagner’s NAR and some of our government officials under the guise of patriotism and Godly values. It is time for great concern for those who will not join this movement, this building of a whole new “kingdom”.  Suddenly I understand the comments I read by those who were greatly concerned about Wilderness Outcry. What will this lead to? Are we ready to stand?

Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, and present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, to God our Savior Who alone is wise, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and forever. Amen. Jude 24-25

Apprising Ministries -Mayday and the New Apostolic Reformation

In response to the May Day event held this past Saturday at the Lincoln Memorial, Ingrid (Schlueter) and Sarah (Leslie) brought to listener attention a movement known as the New Apostolic Reformation. This title was coined by C. Peter Wagner during the 1990’s.

Featuring teachers such as Dutch Sheets, Cindy Jacobs and false prophetess Stacy Campbell, the New Apostolic Reformation is centered around a theology of dominionism. It teaches that Christians can take down demonic spirits in order to take back territories and institutions for Christ. The movement is post-millennial believing that Jesus will not return until Christians take over the 7 Mountains.

These “mountains” are institutions like the media, entertainment, the economy, etc. In other words, their eschatology requires that instead of reaching people with the gospel one heart at a time, they believe they are to conquer the earth one demonic spirit at a time and make the earth perfect so that Jesus can return. (Online source)

You can download and/or listen to this Crosstalk program right here.

Right Wing Watch – Mayday on the Mall

May Day 2010 has been organized around the “Seven Mountains” theology, which advocates the complete takeover of every aspect of contemporary culture by modern day “apostles” of Christ. The theology is rooted in the belief that Christians are meant to have dominion over literally everything and is focused on spiritually “invading” seven specific facets of modern life in order to wrest control away from Satan and his demonic spirits so that Christians can put them to use in bringing about God’s kingdom on Earth: (1) Business; (2) Government; (3) Media; (4) Arts and Entertainment; (5) Education; (6) Family; and (7) Religion.

Herescope :

The Coalescing of the Christian Right with Apostolic Dominion

The American political landscape has suddenly changed. A tumult is appearing in the land with the passage of health care reform. The Christian Right, with its years of courting political influence, is now poised to merge with the new Tea Party Movement. In times of crisis, natural or caused, things seem to happen faster and opportunities, that would take years, seem to happen in months. There is the scent of rebellion in the air.

R&R Revival and Revolt

Initially The Tea Party was populist, libertarian, limited government, anti-socialism and lower taxes, etc. But the first ever National Tea Party Conference in Nashville in February revealed that there has always been an overlap with Christian Right social issues. The Tea Party movement is in danger of being co-opted by the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and its radical agenda. Do the Tea Party folks realize what they are getting into?

America and Christianity, a Parallel Slide Into Secret Places

This morning I’m considering the upcoming National Day of Prayer-what is slowly becoming America as Christianity slowly becomes something else. They seem to both be in parallel  state of change as neither has the appearance of what it once was or should still be.

America, heralded for so long as a country planted on Christian principles, established for the purpose of not only “religious” freedom, but one in which its people could freely worship God in the name of Jesus Christ. One in which its people would be free from religious prosecution, free to live the words of the bible, free to pray, free to worship in spirit and in truth. Without getting too far off here, I have to say I believe that to a degree as history proves that a group came from England for this very reason. But I also believe there were other groups establishing this country, who used the guise of Christianity, or at least the name of “God” and had a completely different plan,  one not of freedom, but of secrets. America having Christian roots is only partly true, but that is another topic for another time.

The National Day of Prayer was created by Congress in 1952. Since that time each of our presidents have honored and acknowledged that day as one for prayer.  This should be a good thing, right? All Christians coming together in various locations or in spirit to pray against the moral decay of our country and to pray for it’s leaders. It sounds like a good thing. Unfortunately, I have learned the hard way what seems to be Christian prayer isn’t necessarily.

With all that we have seen, and attributed to the great falling away, or the great apostasy, we know Christianity is under siege. I don’t know how else to say it. With the continued rising of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), the influence of Bethel (Bill Johnson), Morningstar (Rick Joyner and Todd Bentley), the International House of Prayer (Mike Bickle), The Call (Lou Engle),  and the influences of the Emergent Church (Brian McLaren, Richard Foster, Dallas Willard, Rob Bell, etc.), Saddleback (Rick Warren), the Word of Faith, Charismanina, Christianity as taught in the word of God is not up to par in this land. We have also seen, as I have warned about, many modes of “prayer” that we have been exposed to and taught are not modes of biblical prayer.

How  many of us have watched in horror as we have realized our churches are part of these supporters and even participants and teachers of false doctrines and methods? How many of us who once believed we knew the truth came to realize how far off  we really were? How many of us have watched our churches which at one time did not support these ways become taken in by them? I know there have been many. I’ve had quite a few commentors here say just that very thing. If you are one of them, know that my heart went out to you at that news and I have prayed for you and your church. I don’t take my readers lightly or for granted. You are dear to me as I know many of you are searching for the truth in the information I put up on my blog, as I once was too!

Some would say I am too focused on the negative. And to that I would say look at where we are at now. Look at the shipwreck of our faith, the very thing we were given to uphold and protect. Where is Christianity? It is being morphed into something else. So, while I am found to “find fault in everything”, I say where is the truth? If the Apostle Paul was to walk into any of these meeting places and hear the heresy, I dare to say some tables would overturn, in fact, if there would ever be a spiritual cause for an earthquake there it would be.  This is why I will not stand side by side with these false apostles and prophets under a guise of Christian prayer. And this is what we are seeing today in the upcoming National Day of Prayer.

Here is the link to their “ministry partners“.  Who are they? The International House of Prayer!!! The Call!!!  How about a little feel good wisdom from the wife of Normal Vincent Peale, Ruth Stafford Peale? I’m just wondering – where’s the yoga? Think that’s an outrageous question? It’s not far off, in light of the truth behind contemplative prayer’s roots in eastern mysticism found at IHOP, and the Emergent Church, taught innocently on the “Be Still” DVD.

We’ve already seen as I’ve written about the truth in the upcoming MayDay 2010 in which James Dobson joined forces with the NAR. So, am I surprised the National Day of Prayer has gone as far south? No. We’ve seen the push from Lou Engle and Dutch Sheets in the upcoming “Wilderness Outcry”, and Cindy Jacobs’ “Awakening”.

Listen, no one needs to grant us a day to pray. We pray because Jesus told us to pray, and He taught us how. Prayer should never be handled so lightly or so carelessly that is it a one day event, or as we have been seeing, a show. What is one day out of 365 anyway? What does that accomplish if the very next day all those who participated drift back into spiritual semi-consciousness without another thought of prayer?

If we are truly going to turn this nation, if that can even be done, or if it is the will of our Lord, we must change it through the hearts of it’s citizen’s through individual repentance. And that must start with Christians taking a stand against these who have come to steal away the true Faith!  America is indeed in meltdown, and Christianity along with it. And after all of these “days of prayer” I see just the opposite of what they’ve proposed. I see a steadfast decline in the leadership of our country and in the leadership of our churches and certainly a moral decline in both.

I see America drifting further and further away from its so called Christian roots and its established freedoms, and Christianity away from biblical truth. I have to wonder if the two don’t go hand in hand. As I mentioned in the beginning, some organizations and agendas in America were established long ago in secret. The same is to be said of the so called Christian organizations I spoke of here. They come in the name of the Lord, but after that are secrets. And, it is in what is not being said, or that which is not recognized as false that is the most dangerous.

So to steal their National Day of Prayer tag line, “For such a time as this”, let me say yes, for such a time has come to take a stand for all that is true, for Christ and our faith. It is time to expose these liars for what they are and to demand our churches and faith remains pure. For if Americans can see the erosion of their rights and freedoms, surely true Christians can see the same in regard to their faith. America is slipping away, as is Christianity, right before our very eyes. The truth for America is written in the pages of our constitution, just as the truth of Christianity is written in the pages of our bibles! Have we bothered to read or understand either of them? Or have we been taken in by lies forged in dark places?

I say “Father, Your will be done in this land, for You are sovereign”. I will pray on this day as I do on others. It will be a struggle, a discipline as it always is. However, I will not stand and approach my Father with these liars. I will stand against them in His courts for such a time as this, and if one day I perish, then so be it the will of my Father. Because I would much rather die with His words on my lips and His truth in my heart, than to be seen in “unity” with a well disguised wolf.

Cindy Jacobs Promotes “Prayer” With Skull and Bones Pastor

I have to say that I have been doing more research and uncovering of the NAR than I thought I would do when I first started my blog. I see great danger for anyone following their directives, and the more I read or listen to them, the worse they get– even the roots are bad.

It is past time to pay attention to who and what they stand for and endorse. It is time to lay aside the emotional wave of wasted enthusiasm and get down to the true business of exposing their dark ways sold off to the ignorant as anything remotely related to the work of Christ or the great commission.

We continue to see the NAR growing more and more and its influence spreading and affecting many organizations. (I hesitate to use the word ministries.)  It seems each time I read one of their “prophecies” or “mandates” less and less emphasis is on Christ and the New Covenant brought by His death and resurrection. There is a reason why Christ stated on the cross “It is finished”. But these crazy word of faith-ers would have you and me battle every moment of our lives for some war that is not ours to fight. (Where’s the faith in that?)

We are not called to effect the atmosphere with our words or to change the world through societal transformation. But we are called to preach the gospel – Jesus Christ died for our sins so that through faith in Him as the Son of God we could have forgiveness and eternal life with the Father God. That is the good news preached. It is found in the New Testament of every bible. It is found on the lips of the faithful few and still in some stubborn churches throughout the world. (God bless ’em!) Adam and Eve had dominion over the earth but they lost that dominion when they disobeyed God. Dominion has not been given back to mankind but we were afforded a savior!

I found the following on Truthspeaker’s Weblog last night. I highly recommend reading the article regarding the upcoming prayer for the state of New York. There is some good stuff at links she provided. The information is quite eye opening!

NYC Intercessors and the USSPN join with Skull and Bones Pastor to Pray for NYS

By truthspeaker

I am grieved as I write this post.  Some of the people involved in this upcoming event are known by me personally.  I am writing this as a warning to those sincere Christians who are unknowingly linking themselves up with occult practices!

It has recently come to my attention through an email invitation that NYC Intercessors is joining up with Peter Wagner’s USSPN to pray for all 50 states.  The prayer time for NYS is this week.  They are culminating this prayer initiative with a meeting at Faith Exchange Fellowship in lower Manhattan.

Unfortunately,  there are several things wrong with this.  Firstly it’s total dominionsim, which is unbiblical.  Secondly it is being promoted by Cindy Jacobs, calling for the nation to repent.  The first thought that ran through my mind was “maybe if those who call themselves prophets repented for all the things they said in the name of God that never happened then something might happen”!

Cindy Jacobs in her letter to the intercessors never mentions the name of Jesus.  She also plagiarized  president Lincoln with this statement used with out quotes, writing as if these are her own words:

“Therefore, it behooves us to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness. We, as believers in the Body of Christ in the United States of America, do call for a year of humiliation, fasting and prayer to turn the nation back to God.”
Ok, so maybe that was an oversight…. but plagiarism is illegal.
Next we have Chuck Pierce’s involvement in this.  It has been proven that he makes prophetic predictions based on the writings of the Kabbalah:
“According to Chuck Pierce, all months have some sort of spiritual (mystical, actually) significance. This, he claims, is because God created each month that way. Like much of what Mr. Pierce claims, however, that’s not in the Bible. So where did he come up with that idea? Quite simply, he got it from Kabbalah.”
But the BIGGEST problem with this whole thing is that the pastor whose church they are meeting at on Wednesday is a MEMBER OF THE SKULL AND BONES SOCIETY!
According to Rich Vermillion:
“So in short, Dan Stratton was certainly NEVER a Christian (much less a Christian minister, as he professes himself to be). I have known Dan Stratton personally, and have also researched the S&B fairly extensively. Stratton’s initiation rites into that satanic cult required him to swear total allegiance to the enemy of our souls, satan himself. Thus, unless he repents and renounces that black cult publicly and exposes their hidden secrets, he is to be shunned as a false-brother and false apostle—as I will elaborate concerning even further below”
See also this article by Cutting Edge:
“However, we have a real problem, because Pastor Don Stratton has admitted his membership in the satanic secret society, Skull & Bones! Let us review this video to see him, and his wife, Ann, being interviewed on Pat Robertson’s ‘700 Club’.Watch this video from ‘700 Club’ admitting he is a Bonesman, a member of Skull & Bones

Pat Robertson asks Dan Stratton to confirm that he is a member of “Skull & Bones”, to which Dan replies that, “yes, it is true”.

But, then Stratton defends his membership, largely by attempting to make the organization appear harmless.

“Don’t hold that against me, a lot of Christians don’t like the idea. But, I have had the chance to preach the Gospel, in that group. Many of my friends in that club have come to know the Lord. People put a lot of Masonic connotations to it, but they never made me make any oaths or do anything which have compromised my Christianity.” http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n2241.cfm

This was also admitted in an article published by the NY Times and at one time was posted on Faith Exchange’s web site:

“Stratton is not a bed-of-roses kind of guy. He vividly recalls how, as a poor jock from the sticks, he was mocked for his clothes and called Big Bird by the rich kids at Yale. Still, by his senior year, he was a major figure on campus, second team all-Ivy, starring in school productions of “West Side Story” and “Man of La Mancha” and even playing Larry in “Boys in the Band.” During his junior year, he became a member of Skull and Bones. This affiliation isn’t mentioned in Stratton’s book; a lot of evangelical Christians, he says, are put off by what they regard as the Satanic symbolism of the club, whose members include both George W. Bush and John F. Kerry.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/17/magazine/17wwln_evangelicals.t.html?pagewanted=print

Here are some quotes from the Quotes from the “Prophetic Destiny of a Nation” 50 State Tour for New York

“God is looking to see if we will lay down our own agendas and agree to connect with one another, which is His agenda!” Dutch Sheets – NYC, NY

“A state wide call to gather and worship will come forth and a NEW sound will arise.” Chuck Pierce – Albany, NY

“60 houses of revival will spring forth throughout New York State!” Chuck Pierce – Rochester, NY

“A prophetic sign will be given during the spring thaw!” – Dutch Sheets – Rochester, NY

Our “Empire State” will become “His Kingdom State!” – Joseph Askins – declared in each city of the tour

I think we should mark these down and see if any of them come true and then call the prophets false who make false predictions!

Christians, it’s time to WAKE UP!  Come OUT of Babylon!  Then maybe we will see a move of God in America!

What Genesis Mandate Might That Be, Exactly?

This is a video by Cindy Jacobs, Generals of Intercession. I’m not sure when it was recorded or where, exactly. I am not a teacher and I know that Cindy Jacobs has been at her game much longer than I’ve been at mine. Let’s see what she’s made of as we go to the bible and compare her teaching  mix of covenant, economic structure and something she refers to as the Genesis Mandate.  Cindy is a member of the New Apostolic Reformation under C Peter Wagner and considered to be “a prophet to the nations” and a supporter and teacher of the seven mountains of influence. Her tag line is Achieving Societal Transformation Through Intercession and the Prophetic.  So we have to ask ourselves  – “is this Christ or antichrist?”

2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,  17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Transcribed with my notes, and you know I’m the one in blue. 🙂

Matthew 6:9 is something we know as the Lords prayer, but actually we could call this the disciple’s prayer. And God showed me that this is a prayer and every part of the prayer is an element on how to reform and transform a nation. And this is the reformer’s prayer.

This is the prayer of intercession that will help bring into manifestation the original Genesis mandate, to fill, subdue, multiply and have dominion in the earth, Genesis 1:28. This was our commission in the garden and it never changed, never changed.

Jesus taught His disciples to pray, saying nothing of transformation or the fulfillment of a Genesis mandate. She says nothing more of this scripture and she never even read it out loud, so it’s just kind of left hanging out there. Of course the push is –“God showed her”. This is the Lord’s prayer, twisted for her own devices.

And because we did not understand our commission sin came into the world and it began to deteriorate the ability that we had to steward the earth.

She is saying that we did not understand our commission and sin resulted. But this is what the bible says:

Genesis 3:13 And the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.” This refers to the command that God gave to Adam in Genesis 2:16-17 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die”.

So, they did not obey God. We call that disobedience, not a lack of understanding.

Now, I want you to listen to me it is very important that you understand this. In the garden there were certain systems that were corrupted.

Genesis 3:23 Therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. The garden wasn’t corrupted. Sin entered through the act of disobedience and Adam and Eve were taken from the garden.

One was the economic system. No longer did the earth produce, the curse came and so we have to reverse this curse. And so in the earth we see that there were corrupted systems that were full of greed and mammon. So we have authority to reverse that Genesis curse of poverty and death.

Adam and Eve, being the only two people in the garden, free to do as they please, eat whatever, whenever (except from that one tree). I don’t see any economy going on here. Free is the order or the system the Lord set up for them. Free.

When they were taken from the Garden, they were given means to provide for themselves and we call that means “work”.   If we read the first few verses of chapter 4 we see a good beginning, children born, a yield from the land and animals, far from what we could call poverty.

This is the life that would now be lived, one of work and of reward. Even after Cain murdered his brother and was sent away, he found the means to live, even building a city named after his son Enoch! (Genesis 4:16-17) Yes, there is sin, and with it comes consequences. And there is the curse of death from the disobedience, but hardly the curse of poverty. Even if she is speaking in a future tense, it was Jesus Christ who broke the curse of death, taking our sin on the cross. We cannot do what He has done. And we are still appointed to die a physical death – Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment. Jesus Christ is the only one who has the power of life and death. He is the only one who has the power to break a curse.

Not only do we have the power to do so, we have the mandate. You have to understand this. Matthew 28:19-20 we are commanded to go and make disciples of nations and to teach them to observe everything in this book.

This is why it is so important to know what the book says in context!

And I want to tell you that after Genesis societies began to deteriorate until finally they went into slavery for 400 years. During those 400 years they lost all ability to govern themselves.

It is the way of man to control another.  The heart of man is dark and evil in need of the Messiah! But her statement is quite vague. At the bottom of the matter is sin, the fallen nature, outright disobedience to God. And the only way is to turn back to Him. This is the message of the Old Testament, not societal or government fall out.

They didn’t have economic structure; they didn’t have government structures and so when they came out of bondage in Exodus 19:5 and 6 God gave them a promise. (Read in Spanish by translator). You shall be a kingdom of priests and a holy nation and a special treasure.

Now after this time in the book of Deuteronomy God began to give his plan for government. Deuteronomy one He told them to have representative government; choose one from each tribe. And I don’t have time to teach on this but I wrote a whole book about it. And so what happened is God took a people who were not a people, who were under slavery to Egypt’s system, we could say like the worlds system today.

I don’t see our economic structure the same as one of slavery. There are those in the world who suffer greatly under the control of other governments, but not all are slaves.

Notice she keeps making the point of the economic structure. Not one for the good of the people, but one what will bring wealth to the teacher, to the NAR through their control of the people. An economic structure much like the system of Egypt that she just spoke against!  After all, listen. It’s do as I say as I have heard from God and this is what He wants from the church today, this is the future. I tell you it is not.  Watch out, the antichrist is going to bring in a whole new monetary and economic structure called the One World Order.

And He made them the head and not the tail. He gave them the power to get wealth that His covenant could be established Deut 8:18. If we don’t have the power to get wealth, the covenant cannot be established.

I know of no covenant made by God that demanded wealth for it to be established! This is dangerous teaching and far from the meaning of Deuteronomy 8:18 which reads:

And you shall remember the Lord you God, for it is He who gives you power to get wealth, that He may establish His covenant which he swore to your fathers, as it is this day.

God is reminding them that it was He who has given them the power to get wealth by covenant that He made long ago. (Just a quick run down, as I am not a bible teacher, but I am thinking this goes back to the covenant God made with Abram in Genesis 12, then renamed Abraham, blessed as the father of many nations, then passed to Issac and Jacob, etc.)

The covenant He made with them was not dependant on their ability to get wealth! He is reminding them that He covenanted with their fathers to bless them, and so that all they have has come from His power and in their abundance they should not forget that. God is very big on reminding us what He has done for us.

We have the same covenant. We have the same mandate – the mandate given in the garden.

NO. It is not the same mandate or covenant made in the Garden of Eden! God said that the Messiah was to be born through a woman in Genesis 3, the words he spoke directly to Satan!

Jesus Christ is the new covenant, and in becoming new the old was done away with – no longer to exist!  Jeremiah 31:31-34, “A new covenant I will make with them…” fulfilled through Christ and the scripture repeated in Hebrews 8:8-12.  Verse 13 states, In that He says, “A new covenant, He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Luke 22:20 “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.”  Communion is done as a remembrance to what Christ did for us, a reminder that He is the new covenant! Jesus is the mediator of the new covenant – Hebrews 9:15.

And then Jesus said I want you to disciple nations. Reverse the Genesis curse, He said I’m gonna give you the power of the Holy Sprit to be able to do that.

I’m not sure if she is loosely quoting from the words of Jesus in the great commission, or if this is her personal message. Jesus Christ never told His disciples they would reverse the Genesis curse. She did partially quote Matthew earlier, so let’s go with that.

Matthew 28:18-20

And Jesus came and spoke to them saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heave and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

Not quite the same as what she saying it is. Again, no curse reversal, not even a mention of it!

And what happened? Everything became fruitful and began to multiply in the book of Acts. Acts 4 He gave an economic system and no one lacked anything. It is an incredible shift of world view.

She must be referring to Acts 2, again loosely. The book of Acts tells us of many who heard the word and believed and the church grew in great numbers. Praise God.  Interesting statement from Peter in Acts 3:6 – Then Peter said “silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have is give you; In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk.” Not the same as what Cindy is suggesting regarding no lack of anything. They lacked silver and gold, which blows her “economic theory” out of the water. The blessed thing is that these true apostles believed they had everything because they new Jesus Christ! Read through the book and you will see instead how they suffered much lack of many different things. How different from these modern day self appointed apostles and prophets of the NAR!  The only shift going on is not in the world view as she would have us believe but in her view!  We call that false teaching.

Now listen to me. Historically, even in there’s a massive revival it doesn’t change a city, because the government is still ruled by corruption.

How very sad a comment. There is no interest in true salvation here; have you heard it? True revival comes from true repentance of sin and a turning from the old life to the new life in Christ. A massive revival may or may not change a city. But that is not the point. Jesus Christ did not die to save cities or nations. He is not interested in historical statistics! He came to save sinners like you and me. And yes, the government of the world will still be ruled by corruption because the world is fallen in its sin nature. And until Jesus comes back to set up His kingdom on earth, the corruption of man and government will continue.

This is where the video ends. I don’t know if there is more but I am not able to find a part two. I can tell you from this statement of Cindy’s and all the teachings of the NAR they have an agenda to change and rule the world according to their own plans by taking dominion of the earth. They will do this through their apostolic structure, convincing others to come under their leadership. Their kingdom is that of the seven mountains of influence in society. They use the name of God, but not in the true sense as they do not come in His name, they do not teach His ways. This is the point she is making here at the end and is almost to say that Christ died in vain, we need more, we need dominion of the earth. Christ said His kingdom is not of the world. We are not to receive those who do not bring the true gospel of Jesus Christ. So be careful who you follow and what you work at.

Jesus said, Behold, I am coming quickly and My reward is with Me to give everyone according to his work. Revelation 22:12