Echo Zoe Interviews Sandy Simpson

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For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. – 2 Corinthians 11:13

Sandy Simpson, of the Apologetics Coordination Team, joins me to discuss the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). Sandy runs Deception in the Church, an extensive library of resources on the NAR and related movements and organizations.

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NAR Awakening for the Northwest

Here is a video clip from Dutch Sheets supporting the upcoming conference “Reclaiming the Heart of a Nation” later this month in Seattle, WA

Regional Congress on Reformation.

Following is a partial transcript which reveals the intentions of the New Apostolic Reformation to “bring reformation to America by changing the way the people think”. Salvation is not enough! They now need divine strategy! One of the speakers of this conference is the famed teacher of the seven mountains, Lance Wallnau. So when Dutch calls for strategy he is looking for a plan on how to better implement the governing of the seven mountains.

As you read through these words you will recognize a dividing line between true Christianity aka the teachings of scripture, and the intentions of the false apostles and prophets of the NAR or as it can be also called, the voice of God, which further promotes what is referred to as Dominionism.

(I’m in blue.)

Dutch Sheets: I heard a frightening statistic lately. At that is 96 percent of those who call themselves born again Christians do not have a biblical worldview. That means they do not believe in the basics of scripture.

When the NAR starts talking about a biblical worldview it only reinforces my disbelief that there is biblical truth behind the phrase itself.

How did we go through a revival of the magnitude of the Charismatic movement, the Jesus movement, the Apostolic movement, the prophetic movement, the prayer movements, the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s? God was doing great things in America. How do you go through that and lose ground in the culture of a nation?

First of all these “movements” were made up of false doctrine – scriptures taken out of context with emphasis on visitations, “hearing the voice of God”, and false signs and wonders. An unbiblical re-formation of the five fold ministry with emphasis on self-appointed apostles and prophets, hence the birth of the NAR. False teachers and prophets make a false movement and in their case it has been one after another producing no true FRUIT. This is how I would answer Dutch’s question.

Secondly, America is not covenanted with God in the same way He covenanted with Israel. Many people miss this. America was founded by some who were believers, but others were not. And research proves that many of the “founding fathers” who the NAR is so in love with were actually Freemasons and Universalists.

Third, the NARites believe as Dutch has stated that America is losing its biblical culture that it once had. Have they not read that the world will get worse until the time of the return of Christ – as in the days of Noah?

And listen, when you lose ground in the culture of a nation even the fruit that you made on an individual level will dissipate because you’re not changing the way people think.

Change the way people think. You will hear this a few more times. It makes me wonder how far they are willing to go in the future to accomplish control of the human mind.

We must have this great outpouring of the Holy Spirit that has now begun and will intensify and I believe before it is over it will be called the third great awakening in America.

This is the “Latter Rain” heresy which claims an “outpouring of the Holy Spirit” and resulted from a misapplied understanding of the last days described in Acts 2:17 and Joel 2:28.

This is one thing Jesus had to say to His disciples about the Holy Spirit. Notice there is nothing about an outpouring. John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

Basic doctrine is God the Father, revealed through Jesus Christ, Immanuel (God with us) who gave us His Holy Spirit so that we would not be alone.

But this time we must do more than get them saved, filled with the spirit and healed. We must change the thinking of a nation. We must do what Jesus said in Matthew 28 disciple the nation. That’s reformation.

Let’s stop right here for Matthew 28 because Dutch is referring to what we know as the Great Commission of Jesus.

18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19Go thereforeand make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

Jesus said to teach them all things He commanded. The false teaching of the NAR is not the same as the teachings of Jesus Christ written in the bible. There is no getting around that fact. At the beginning of the transcript Dutch claimed that many do not know the basics of scripture. He needs to include himself in that count.

This time we must do more than get them saved. We must reform the way they think. How do you do that? I don’t think anyone right now has all the answers, most Christians have no answers. We do not think this way. But we must. We must now begin to plan and ask God for strategy how do we reform America.

I believe our “answers” are found in the bible! To say that most Christians have no answers is ridiculous. They want us to believe that is true and that they are the ones who will plug-in and hear from God on our behalf  providing us instruction on how to “reform America”.

To change the way we think, we go to the teachings of scripture to learn to renew our minds as in Romans 12:2!

That’s what this conference is all about. In the evenings we’re going to have outpourings. We’re gonna stir up the gifts of the spirit, we’re gonna stir up  the spirit of awakening. We’re gonna pray together and release a greater spirit of awakening over the northwest region.

Listen – OUTPOURINGS. Remember Bentley? That’s his word and his move!

What is a “spirit of awakening”? If these men and women of the NAR would teach the bible as it is written maybe we would see a change in the hearts of men and women as they repent in need of the Savior. But calling for a spirit of this or that is not going to change anything, except possibly the condition of their vocal chords the next morning.

Some of us have been crying out for strategy. How do we reform? What are strategies to change media, education. We know now we need to do it; we’ve heard of the seven mountains. I believe God is about to give us that strategy. We’re gonna hear from God on how to do this. Come. Let’s find some answers. Lets be ready this time when the outpouring comes and we know what to do with it and shift the thinking of America. Let’s learn how to reform America. We’re gonna hear from heaven.

There it is – strategy for the seven mountains mandate – the plan to take over society for what they believe is their high calling of God.

This is not Jesus, this is not the Kingdom of God that was preached by Him! This is man’s kingdom and possibly the kingdom of the anti-christ. Whoever it is that will be speaking from “heaven” will not be the Most High God. The reason why we know this will not be Him is because nothing like the seven mountain mandate is written in the scriptures. People get ready.

I am also in the northwest and have begun to pray against this crazy conference that people would see the truth and turn from the teachings of the NAR! If we have questions, if we need answers we turn to the bible.

I have a deep fear that there very well may be another awakening when these people stand before God and realize that all they peddled and pushed to so many had nothing at all to do with His plan. And that the “voice” they heard from heaven was not His voice at all.

Other articles regarding Dutch Sheets –

The Alignment of Political America and the NAR

A Word Against the Wilderness Outcry

Pondering Revelation 17:9

Ok. So I’m reading Revelation 17 and when I came on verse 9 I was struck with a strange connection in the wording, wondering if there is indeed a connection to have a closer look at. See what you think here –

Rev. 17:9 Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits.

Seven mountains.

Remember now, Chuck Pierce, C Peter Wagner, Lance Wallnau, Bill Johnson, Cal Pierce, Cindy Jacobs, Dutch Sheets and gads more support this idea via thier claim of  a prophetic word of the seven mountains of influence in which “believers” are to take over society using their “god-given” gifts in these seven areas – Government, Business, Education, Media, Family, Religion, Entertainment. Guess they didn’t read that part in the bible when Jesus stated His kingdom is NOT of this world, huh? But then again, these people of the NAR who are false prophets and false teachers don’t really read the bible, do they? But they sure can coax a crowd to their gatherings. Tickling messages.

I’ve often wondered what will happen when those of us who oppose these false teachers, clinging to the word of God for our truth rather than their bizarre claims of knowledge and supernatural experiences. I think it is worth taking some time to consider that those of the NAR who claim all these crazy things will indeed be the ones to persecute those of the true faith. Heaven help them -really- because the end result of them will be worse than anything they can conjure toward us.

Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.”

So could it be that the “seven mountains of influence” delusion was actually foretold in Revelation 17:9?

The Alignment of Political America and the NAR

I’ve been watching and writing about the heretical teachings of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) for a few months, not being sure why it seemed to be so important to do so. I don’t have a lot of experience with them because I never really “got” Chuck Pierce at all. However, there are some other prophets and apostles in this madhouse that I did follow (Cal Pierce, Cindy Jacobs, Dutch Sheets) and I guess that was enough for the Lord to impress on me the need for exposure.

Last night I began to come across some very good information offered by organizations who have researched the NAR much longer than I have. I am stunned to see the newly formed connection between political America and the demonic agenda of the NAR. No longer can it be confined only to a strange few. Follow the links I posted below – read and listen with great care. Yes, it will take some time as there is a lot of information. But, so important. You will see the connection between C Peter Wagner’s NAR and some of our government officials under the guise of patriotism and Godly values. It is time for great concern for those who will not join this movement, this building of a whole new “kingdom”.  Suddenly I understand the comments I read by those who were greatly concerned about Wilderness Outcry. What will this lead to? Are we ready to stand?

Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, and present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, to God our Savior Who alone is wise, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and forever. Amen. Jude 24-25

Apprising Ministries -Mayday and the New Apostolic Reformation

In response to the May Day event held this past Saturday at the Lincoln Memorial, Ingrid (Schlueter) and Sarah (Leslie) brought to listener attention a movement known as the New Apostolic Reformation. This title was coined by C. Peter Wagner during the 1990’s.

Featuring teachers such as Dutch Sheets, Cindy Jacobs and false prophetess Stacy Campbell, the New Apostolic Reformation is centered around a theology of dominionism. It teaches that Christians can take down demonic spirits in order to take back territories and institutions for Christ. The movement is post-millennial believing that Jesus will not return until Christians take over the 7 Mountains.

These “mountains” are institutions like the media, entertainment, the economy, etc. In other words, their eschatology requires that instead of reaching people with the gospel one heart at a time, they believe they are to conquer the earth one demonic spirit at a time and make the earth perfect so that Jesus can return. (Online source)

You can download and/or listen to this Crosstalk program right here.

Right Wing Watch – Mayday on the Mall

May Day 2010 has been organized around the “Seven Mountains” theology, which advocates the complete takeover of every aspect of contemporary culture by modern day “apostles” of Christ. The theology is rooted in the belief that Christians are meant to have dominion over literally everything and is focused on spiritually “invading” seven specific facets of modern life in order to wrest control away from Satan and his demonic spirits so that Christians can put them to use in bringing about God’s kingdom on Earth: (1) Business; (2) Government; (3) Media; (4) Arts and Entertainment; (5) Education; (6) Family; and (7) Religion.

Herescope :

The Coalescing of the Christian Right with Apostolic Dominion

The American political landscape has suddenly changed. A tumult is appearing in the land with the passage of health care reform. The Christian Right, with its years of courting political influence, is now poised to merge with the new Tea Party Movement. In times of crisis, natural or caused, things seem to happen faster and opportunities, that would take years, seem to happen in months. There is the scent of rebellion in the air.

R&R Revival and Revolt

Initially The Tea Party was populist, libertarian, limited government, anti-socialism and lower taxes, etc. But the first ever National Tea Party Conference in Nashville in February revealed that there has always been an overlap with Christian Right social issues. The Tea Party movement is in danger of being co-opted by the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and its radical agenda. Do the Tea Party folks realize what they are getting into?

More on the Outcry

I’ve recently found out that Against the Outcry (a group blog who spoke out against Dutch Sheets’ Wilderness Outcry and who posted some of my articles) will be closing their blog soon . Since the Wilderness Outcry has been canceled, the blog has served it’s purpose. If you have been planning on doing some reading but haven’t made it over there yet you may want to visit soon before it is gone.

update – Against the Outcry is no longer available and has been removed from my blogroll since the writing of this article.

It has been our hope and prayer that those following Dutch would have had the opportunity to view the material posted and have seen the truth. It has been said that there is a group of “intercessors” who have claimed a new purpose in going to “god” to find out who was behind that effort. This is nothing short of evil. And to raise up a group of intercessors for the purpose of what… I cannot say or imagine what they are thinking! Where could this lead?

And as a side note, good for them! As Americans they have the right to stand against this craziness coming to their own city, to stand and say this will not happen where I live and work and pay taxes, this will not happen where I raise my children!

Please pray for the safety of those involved and for the salvation of those who participated  purely for domestic reasons and do not know Christ. What must it look like when groups like these come in the name of Christ and yet do not speak His gospel, yet speak of an effort to take over the country, forcing others to join..or…what…be imprisoned…die?  This  has been the concern of some who have spoken against this gathering of Dutch’s followers. They wonder what will become of them if they do not join forces and “convert”.  How much does this resemble Islam? How about socialism?

My reasons  for speaking against this movement and the NAR as a whole can be found throughout my blog, so I won’t restate them here. I can say the cancellation of this meeting was in fact an answer to prayer. What right does this group have to instill fear in the minds and hearts of those who believe differently than they? What right do they have to twist the meaning of the gospel – the very reason Christ died – for their own realized fulfillment of some dream or vision?

What is Christianity coming to?

For anyone reading with this same concern, please know that it is not the way of Jesus Christ to force His teachings on anyone. We have all been given a free will to decide whether or not to follow Christ.  In His own words He told His disciples that His kingdom is not of this world.  And so anyone supporting a dominion  – take over the country or world for the sake of holiness /righteousness/purity – viewpoint has not come in the name of Christ, no matter what else they say.

But Christ did die, for all of us. And one day their will be a judgment of how we lived our lives and who for. So I beg you, on that day find yourselves counted among those who stood for Christ!

John 18:36 My Kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world my servants would fight so that I would not be delivered unto the Jews. But now My kingdom is not from here.

Romans 5:8  But God demonstrates His own love for us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

John 14:6 I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father except through Me.

Revelation 22:12 And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.

No Crying Out at Wilderness Outcry

I’ve just received word that the “Wilderness Outcry” hosted by Dutch Sheets has been canceled, claiming lack of funding. I have been writing about/against this since I first heard about it. See articles under “Dutch Sheets” for more info.

Praise God!

Here is the link to the article written by a local paper in Missouri which was sent to me by Against the Outcry, a local blogger group who took a great stand against it.   Read on: Lack of Funding…

America and Christianity, a Parallel Slide Into Secret Places

This morning I’m considering the upcoming National Day of Prayer-what is slowly becoming America as Christianity slowly becomes something else. They seem to both be in parallel  state of change as neither has the appearance of what it once was or should still be.

America, heralded for so long as a country planted on Christian principles, established for the purpose of not only “religious” freedom, but one in which its people could freely worship God in the name of Jesus Christ. One in which its people would be free from religious prosecution, free to live the words of the bible, free to pray, free to worship in spirit and in truth. Without getting too far off here, I have to say I believe that to a degree as history proves that a group came from England for this very reason. But I also believe there were other groups establishing this country, who used the guise of Christianity, or at least the name of “God” and had a completely different plan,  one not of freedom, but of secrets. America having Christian roots is only partly true, but that is another topic for another time.

The National Day of Prayer was created by Congress in 1952. Since that time each of our presidents have honored and acknowledged that day as one for prayer.  This should be a good thing, right? All Christians coming together in various locations or in spirit to pray against the moral decay of our country and to pray for it’s leaders. It sounds like a good thing. Unfortunately, I have learned the hard way what seems to be Christian prayer isn’t necessarily.

With all that we have seen, and attributed to the great falling away, or the great apostasy, we know Christianity is under siege. I don’t know how else to say it. With the continued rising of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), the influence of Bethel (Bill Johnson), Morningstar (Rick Joyner and Todd Bentley), the International House of Prayer (Mike Bickle), The Call (Lou Engle),  and the influences of the Emergent Church (Brian McLaren, Richard Foster, Dallas Willard, Rob Bell, etc.), Saddleback (Rick Warren), the Word of Faith, Charismanina, Christianity as taught in the word of God is not up to par in this land. We have also seen, as I have warned about, many modes of “prayer” that we have been exposed to and taught are not modes of biblical prayer.

How  many of us have watched in horror as we have realized our churches are part of these supporters and even participants and teachers of false doctrines and methods? How many of us who once believed we knew the truth came to realize how far off  we really were? How many of us have watched our churches which at one time did not support these ways become taken in by them? I know there have been many. I’ve had quite a few commentors here say just that very thing. If you are one of them, know that my heart went out to you at that news and I have prayed for you and your church. I don’t take my readers lightly or for granted. You are dear to me as I know many of you are searching for the truth in the information I put up on my blog, as I once was too!

Some would say I am too focused on the negative. And to that I would say look at where we are at now. Look at the shipwreck of our faith, the very thing we were given to uphold and protect. Where is Christianity? It is being morphed into something else. So, while I am found to “find fault in everything”, I say where is the truth? If the Apostle Paul was to walk into any of these meeting places and hear the heresy, I dare to say some tables would overturn, in fact, if there would ever be a spiritual cause for an earthquake there it would be.  This is why I will not stand side by side with these false apostles and prophets under a guise of Christian prayer. And this is what we are seeing today in the upcoming National Day of Prayer.

Here is the link to their “ministry partners“.  Who are they? The International House of Prayer!!! The Call!!!  How about a little feel good wisdom from the wife of Normal Vincent Peale, Ruth Stafford Peale? I’m just wondering – where’s the yoga? Think that’s an outrageous question? It’s not far off, in light of the truth behind contemplative prayer’s roots in eastern mysticism found at IHOP, and the Emergent Church, taught innocently on the “Be Still” DVD.

We’ve already seen as I’ve written about the truth in the upcoming MayDay 2010 in which James Dobson joined forces with the NAR. So, am I surprised the National Day of Prayer has gone as far south? No. We’ve seen the push from Lou Engle and Dutch Sheets in the upcoming “Wilderness Outcry”, and Cindy Jacobs’ “Awakening”.

Listen, no one needs to grant us a day to pray. We pray because Jesus told us to pray, and He taught us how. Prayer should never be handled so lightly or so carelessly that is it a one day event, or as we have been seeing, a show. What is one day out of 365 anyway? What does that accomplish if the very next day all those who participated drift back into spiritual semi-consciousness without another thought of prayer?

If we are truly going to turn this nation, if that can even be done, or if it is the will of our Lord, we must change it through the hearts of it’s citizen’s through individual repentance. And that must start with Christians taking a stand against these who have come to steal away the true Faith!  America is indeed in meltdown, and Christianity along with it. And after all of these “days of prayer” I see just the opposite of what they’ve proposed. I see a steadfast decline in the leadership of our country and in the leadership of our churches and certainly a moral decline in both.

I see America drifting further and further away from its so called Christian roots and its established freedoms, and Christianity away from biblical truth. I have to wonder if the two don’t go hand in hand. As I mentioned in the beginning, some organizations and agendas in America were established long ago in secret. The same is to be said of the so called Christian organizations I spoke of here. They come in the name of the Lord, but after that are secrets. And, it is in what is not being said, or that which is not recognized as false that is the most dangerous.

So to steal their National Day of Prayer tag line, “For such a time as this”, let me say yes, for such a time has come to take a stand for all that is true, for Christ and our faith. It is time to expose these liars for what they are and to demand our churches and faith remains pure. For if Americans can see the erosion of their rights and freedoms, surely true Christians can see the same in regard to their faith. America is slipping away, as is Christianity, right before our very eyes. The truth for America is written in the pages of our constitution, just as the truth of Christianity is written in the pages of our bibles! Have we bothered to read or understand either of them? Or have we been taken in by lies forged in dark places?

I say “Father, Your will be done in this land, for You are sovereign”. I will pray on this day as I do on others. It will be a struggle, a discipline as it always is. However, I will not stand and approach my Father with these liars. I will stand against them in His courts for such a time as this, and if one day I perish, then so be it the will of my Father. Because I would much rather die with His words on my lips and His truth in my heart, than to be seen in “unity” with a well disguised wolf.

A Word Against the Wilderness Outcry

Against the Outcry

The following is a comment I put up at the blog linked above. This is a group of people – Christians and Atheists who are against the upcoming Wilderness Outcry coming to their hometown in Missouri this June. The blog has linked some of my related articles to help get the word out. Please pray that the deceitful teachings of Dutch Sheets and Lou Engle be revealed to the people. Their false doctrines and silly ideas are damaging to the true faith!

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We need to put this in its proper perspective. Dutch Sheets and Lou Engle are part of what is known as the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) under the leadership of C Peter Wagner. They subscribe to the latter rain doctrine (Dominionism/Kingdom Now/Manifest Sons of God) which teaches that in the final days God will pour out His Spirit in a way that He never did in the past. They believe there will be an end time army of believers, taken from Joel 2 that will have supernatural ability never before experienced. Some of them will achieve a sinless state, embodying Christ Himself. It is complete heresy!! This is the driving force behind what is called Joel’s Army or Engle’s The Call, the Nazirites. They also believe God has called them to take dominion over the earth, in all 7 areas of influence, aka the 7 mountains – religion, entertainment, media, education, government, etc. They believe this can be achieved through these prayer/worship/fasting gatherings.

What their teachings and beliefs come down to is their own personal interpretations of scripture. They take the words of the bible out of context to support whatever dreams or visions or prophetic words they claim to have had. They throw out any regard to what the scriptures truly mean or who is being addressed, but use them for their own purposes. Much regard and importance is given to their own subjective supernatural experiences which is known as experienced-based theology, having no basis in the truth of the word of God. Their followers who trust and support them do so at their own detriment, but believe they are fulfilling the call of God and that they have been called to this service being forerunners or having special purpose or ability above that of a normal Christian. These movements are very dangerous, very deceptive. Once people become wrapped up it is very difficult to show them the truth.

I am a Christian. I believe in the word of God as it is written. These people, even tho they use the name of God and throw scripture around do not speak for true Christianity. It is very important for us to make that as clear as possible. They are liars and have their own plans and purposes aside from anything God has done, outside His will or purpose. All anyone has to do is to read the bible to find this out. It is not hard to see the lies.

Numbers do not have special purpose, nor are they ever used by God to communicate messages to His people. This is numerology and is used in the occult, a practice of divination forbidden to us by God. (Leviticus 19:26) To confirm this, scan the bible and see if God ever used numbers or a grouping of numbers to speak to people. You will find He did not. There are some who call themselves Christians yet teach numbers have meaning. (I know because I took their courses, only to find out the truth later.) And to multiply that number gives that meaning more emphasis. This is why the number 7 is expressed as 777, or 4 as 444, etc. A little research into numerology will confirm this as true. The bible was written without the numbering system as divided into chapters and verses. Man did that to make it easier to read, study and refer to. So the little scenario of 444 acres being Isaiah 44:4 is questionable since God didn’t use the numbering system anyway!!

This connection with Nazirites is part of the Old Covenant, having nothing to do with Christianity. It is old and should be put aside, not practiced or encouraged. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the Old Covenant and is the New Covenant. We call ourselves Christians because we follow Christ and His teachings and His ways. If we are to take on a vow of the Nazirite we need to be aware there is more to it than just the vow in itself. So, these followers may want to ask themselves if they are ready to follow ALL of the rules and requirements of a Nazirite because there’s more there than just getting caught up in the emotional moment and making a vow. (God takes vows seriously!) Again, this is like a buzz word, making Lou Engle look as tho he knows what he is talking about. He does not – otherwise he would teach all the requirements of a Nazirite. If he is truly a Christian he should take a closer look at what he is telling people because he is teaching them to do something other than what Christ does. In effect, he is causing a separation between Christ and His followers!

Being a Christian I must point out that upon salvation we are given the indwelling of the Holy Spirit who is Jesus Christ living with us, guiding, directing. The Holy Spirit is not a separate entity, but what is known as the third person – Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He reveals Jesus Christ. He has nothing of Himself for He is God. The Lord does not visit His people in special places. There are no longer places on earth set aside for worship or visitation. This was symbolized when Jesus was crucified and the curtain in the temple Holy of Holies was torn in two. It signified man now has access directly to God, not longer needing a priest or sacrifice to go before Him.

God treats all people as individuals and while we are called to pray we cannot repent on behalf of our nation and expect that will change things. It will not. Change will only happen when people recognize their need for a Savior, when they recognize Jesus Christ is the mediator, the one who came to reunite a sinful person with a Holy God. A God who loves us so much that He (Jesus) died for us. When we recognize this need and turn from our own selfish needs. we look to the needs of others, esteeming them more than ourselves, we can only truly love or care for another through the love of God Himself. The key aspect to anything we do is to preach the gospel. This other stuff is something other than true Christianity and I feel it of the utmost importance to show the difference as best I can. This world will continue it is sin and destruction until the return of Jesus Christ. Mankind will not change this nor will he ever be granted dominion in the way the NAR intends. They are far from the truth and must be exposed.

I have links to resources where much more information on these topics have been compiled in greater detail. I will be happy to supply them if you wish.

We are warned repeatedly in scripture of false teachers, prophets and doctrine, and that others will come in the name of Christ. This deception is very old. Please know there is a coming world leader who will take over control for a time. He will be political and religious and is known in the word as the antichrist. He will seem to be a man of peace, but only for a time. This is why it is of the utmost importance to know the difference between the true Christ and the imposter(s) and to be prepared.

The disasters on the earth happen because the earth itself is fallen. I do not believe this is God judging anyone yet. But that will come. These people who claim the storms and earthquakes, etc are judgments of God have no real way of knowing that with any certainty. To claim that we can come together and pray to avoid further devastation is an outright lie. Sheets is using fear to motivate others to follow him, manipulation is considered a form of witchcraft! It is enough to know that God allows the storms and disasters and there is no way of knowing if we will be included in the next one or not. Please be ready for what is to come on the earth.

Jesus said My Kingdom is not of this world – John 18:36
The promise and work of the Holy Spirit – John 14:26, 16:7-14
The purpose of Christ – John 3:16-17

Truth About the NAR

If you aren’t familiar with the New Apostolic Reformation, aka NAR, here are some links to give you some good information on who they are, how they started and what they believe. Forget about reading beliefs pages on their individual web sites. You will not find truth there. You will find it in their teachings and these great links! These men and women come in the name of Christ but are far from Him!

The main NAR members I expose here on my blog are –

Cal Pierce – International Association of Healing Rooms

Chuck Pierce (no relation that I am aware of)   – Glory of Zion

Dutch Sheets – Dutch Sheets Ministries

Cindy Jacobs  – Generals of Intercession

Bill Johnson and Rick Joyner are considered NAR by some, although not affiliated with Wagner that I can tell. (I don’t get into Joyner much and the only reason I mention him is due to his close relationship with, and restoration of Todd Bentley. They have the same teachings from the Latter Rain Movement, Word of Faith, Kingdom Now/Dominionism and Manifest Sons of God.

New Apostolic Reformation This is the index page for a series of articles on the Apostolic Movement or, as C. Peter Wagner, self-proclaimed “apostle” calls it, “The New Apostolic Reformation”.  “The most dangerous purveyors of deception are today’s restored apostles and prophets.  Why?  Because they purport to speak for our Lord and they claim to hold the greatest authority over the direction of the Church and the lives of God’s people. These apostles & prophets are the people that the majority of the other leaders in the charismatic movement look to for new insights, revelation, and vision for the future of the Church.

International Coalition of Apostles – As of 2/2010 current list of apostles (NAR members) under C. Peter Wagner

The Roots and Fruits of the NAR – Critical Issues Commentary -This article explores the idea of apostles in the church throughout church history. In it I will show that the restoration/Latter Rain idea that fuels the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is unbiblical and dangerous to the well-being of Christians who become part of it. First we will review how the early church understood apostles in church history. Then we will examine the Roman Catholic Church’s teaching about apostolic authority. From there we will examine the ideas of a 17th-century mystic given new life in the Latter Rain movement, and now the NAR.

Truthfully, there’s tons of information out there, but this will get you going in the right direction – at least. 🙂

Be blessed as you read the truth!

Dobson Joins Forces with NAR

On May 1st  Dr. James Dobson joins forces with some of America’s leaders, pastors and members of the NAR in the name of prayer to turn the nation and it’s people from its –wicked ways–.

How can this be so, when the NAR has its own god?

They call it-

Mayday 2010 A Day to Cry to God for a Nation in Distress

I’d say so, as we see the unstoppable tentacles of C Peter Wagner’s life’s work of false teaching spread throughout all areas of our country.

Distress?

Absolutely.