eating off the wrong tree

From time to time someone comments here regarding the Bethel, the church in Redding, California, headed by Bill Johnson. He is known to be quite influential and many flock to his church because they believe God is doing “something”. These misinformed believe that unless they are in Bethel physically, they will “miss out on” what “God is doing now”.

I’ve put up quite a few articles related to Bethel and its Pastor Bill Johnson who pals with Cal Pierce of International Association of Healing Rooms – think John G. Lake.  I’d like to take a second to show you how easy it is to spot false teaching. Now, the teaching I am about to show you did not originate from Bill Johnson or Cal Pierce. It is a fundamental teaching out of the word of faith heresy. Watch how simple.

I was asked to contact a young woman in regards to my experience with the healing rooms – IAHR. This woman has become involved with Bethel, its healing rooms and the teaching of Bill Johnson. (Both healing rooms share the same teachings.)  I shared with her my experience and concerns. She claimed she knew we, as believers, could “speak things into existence” because the word says power of life and death are in the tongue, and that is proof that we could.

Here is my response to her –

You said you are grounded in the word. Please consider then, these scriptures that you have been taught out of context.

You saidThe bible says the power of life and death is in the tongue.  That’s proof right there that we can speak things into existence.

Below is the scripture in context and you will see nothing said before or after teaches we can speak things into existence.

Proverbs 18:20-22

20 A man’s stomach shall be satisfied from the fruit of his mouth;
From the produce of his lips he shall be filled.
21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue,
And those who love it will eat its fruit.
22 He who finds a wife finds a good thing,
And obtains favor from the LORD.

The power to “call things that are not as tho they were”, or to “speak things into existence comes” from a clip from the following scripture, again I am posting it in its context –

Romans 4:16-18

16 Therefore it is of faith that it might be according to grace, so that the promise might be sure to all the seed, not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all 17 (as it is written, “I have made you a father of many nations”[a]) in the presence of Him whom he believed—God, who gives life to the dead and calls those things which do not exist as though they did; 18 who, contrary to hope, in hope believed, so that he became the father of many nations, according to what was spoken, “So shall your descendants be.

This scripture so often quoted out of its true meaning speaks of God’s promise to make Abraham the father of a nation, even when he was so old, past the age of child bearing, the thing that did not exist. It also refers to the sovereignty of God, His power to speak life into what did not exist before, all of creation, to call a people, the Gentile nation, to be His even when they were not. Again, nothing is said here of our power to call things to exist

So now we can see that Proverbs and Romans are two very often misquoted scriptures – where does the idea of this wrong teaching come from???

Genesis 3:4-6

4 Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.

To claim we can do the same things that God does, to claim to have that ability and power is to make the claim we are like God, as the serpent told Eve above. And how quickly she found out otherwise. I know you have a zeal for God but please make sure you are doing the work of a true believer. Just to lay claim to some thing and pound God’s name on it, does not make it of God. We have a responsibility to keep the word of God and its teachings pure and to handle it with utmost care. These word of faith teachers do not teach us the word of God as it is written, but twist it to say something other than what it does, as you can see by these examples. Why do they do this? Maybe because they have been deceived for so long they can no longer see the truth. Or maybe they don’t care of the truth; they just want the fame and fortune. None of us know for sure but we do know when we compare their teachings with the word -as we have done here -they don’t say the same thing.

This is why I warn others of this heresy and of those who are eating off the wrong tree.

This is her response back to me:

Faith, hope and love. The rest is whatever.  I’m not going to debate with you. I love people with faith! And those that have faith for the impossible is great in God’s eyes.  They are childlike and that is the only way to make it into the kingdom of heaven.
Have a good day.

Notice not a bit of care or concern with the truth staring her right there in both of her eyes! I guess if you have this “faith” then nothing else matters.

This is the teaching supported at Bethel and throughout most of charismania. Not the true word of God, but one contrived of twisted scripture. Again, I have to wonder what it truly means when they twist the word of God so easily, and Jesus Himself is referred to in John 1 as the Word.  Does it make you want to jump the first plane, train or auto out there to be just as deceived?

Warning to the Apostles – Andrew Strom

I received this warning from Andrew Strom in my e-mail this morning. Another ditto to those who do the same work in exposing these false apostles, prophets and teachers of the NAR and Manifest Sons. So for those who go in the same way, walk out.

WARNING to THE “APOSTLES”
-Andrew Strom.

An Open Letter to Peter Wagner, Dutch Sheets & Other “Apostles”.

I recently received a report of a new “Apostolic Network” headed up by Dutch Sheets which held a gathering in Florida last week to “carve up” territories for it’s ‘apostles’, etc. (link here -added by M’Kayla) I need to put in writing what I believe the Lord would say to these men.

But first I need to remind us all of something. On June 23rd, 2008, a group of “apostles and prophets” under Peter Wagner’s headship stood on a stage in Lakeland at the Todd Bentley revival – to lay on hands and commission him, etc. But it was far more than that. Peter Wagner called it an “apostolic alignment.” He made the following statement before all the TV cameras and all the people:

“I take the apostolic authority that God has given me and I decree to Todd Bentley:
-Your power will increase.
-Your authority will increase.
-Your favor will increase.
-Your influence will increase.
-Your revelation will increase.
I also decree that:
-A new supernatural strength will flow through this ministry.
-A new life force will penetrate this move of God…”

Onlookers might have thought that Wagner was ‘prophesying’ the above statements. But actually what he felt he was doing was “decreeing” these things over Todd – since he was the ‘head apostle’.  In a letter the following day, Wagner called this a “groundbreaking event” and stated that, “We are now in a place in what I see as the Second Apostolic Age…” (In other words, a “new era” of real apostles).

So how did that work out for you, Peter? Well, literally within weeks we found out that many of the “miracles” at Lakeland had no foundation, and then Todd Bentley’s wife separated from him apparently over an affair he was having – and the entire ‘revival’ fell to pieces in the worst way possible. That’s how it worked out.

All the big Charismatic leaders that had stood on that stage hardly knew what to do with themselves – they were so embarrassed. And none more so than Peter Wagner – after making an “Apostolic decree” like that. -Probably the most colossal disaster of his life.

So who pulled the rug out from under your “apostolic alignment”, Peter? I need to tell you that there are two responsible parties. One is ‘yourself’ – clearly. And the second is GOD – because He is now pitted against you and your so-called “apostles”. He is the one who did this to you.

You and your friends have presumed to an office and a place over the Body that is simply not yours, and God is in the process of taking you ‘apostles’ down – and all your “networks” with you.

Dutch Sheets – can I ask you please, what gives you the right to carve up the Body of Christ in North America and parcel it out like McDonald’s franchises to all your buddies so they can be ‘apostles’ over their own “territory”? Do you have any idea what you are playing with? Don’t you know that if your buddies are not real New Testament Apostles then all they are doing is painting huge targets on themselves and begging for the judgment of God?
How dare you treat the Body of Christ like a piece of Real Estate that you can carve up for your own aggrandizement?

Because of men like you, God is about to judge the leadership of the church. Do they call themselves an “apostle”? Well, God is going to put them to the test. If they are not the real thing, they make themselves His ‘enemy’ because they are blocking His real Reformation. Every self-proclaimed “apostle and prophet” is about to be put to the test. Oh, you call your group an “Apostolic Council of Elders” or something similar? Expect God to come calling, and if you are not the real thing, expect Him to take you down. The Lord God is coming to take back His church with great violence. And you guys are standing directly in His way.

I’ve heard that one of these big “apostles” in Canada once told his network that their “apostle-ness” would be judged by the ‘noses and nickels’ that they represented. (In other words, their “numbers”
and their reaping of money). Hmmmm. If I didn’t know better, I would call those the words of a hireling and a wolf.

As Lee Grady wrote about this ‘Apostle-Mania’:
“In some circles apostles demanded total allegiance from the leaders who were “under” them. Some required a policy of “tithing up,” creating a monstrous organizational structure similar to a spiritual Amway. So-called apostles with huge “downlines” made exorbitant amounts of money. One leader even offered pastors the opportunity to become “spiritual sons” by contributing $1,000 a month to his ministry.”

And yet here is what the TRUE apostle Paul wrote: “I think that God has set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death… we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwelling place… we are made as the filth of the world, and are the off scouring of all things…” (1 Cor 4:9-13).

Now THAT is true apostleship. Tell me, Mr. Modern Apostle, do you match up to the New Testament apostles? If not, what on earth do you think God is going to do to you if you claim that title falsely?

I believe that many true Apostles, when they do arise, will simply REFUSE to carry such titles in any way. They will “minimize” themselves, not exalt themselves. That is the heart of a true leader of God.

In closing, let me again warn those who have titled themselves “apostle” or ‘prophet’ in the modern church. God is coming to “clean house” and if you are not the real deal, expect Him to start with you. It is as simple as that. You need to repent urgently of your utter presumption. You have been warned.

Send feedback to-  prophetic@revivalschool.com

God bless you all.

Andrew Strom.

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I got this in my e-mail and wanted to point some stuff out. I don’t think Dutch is actually hearing from God, being part of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), joined with C Peter Wagner.  He has some valid claims about America in this e-mail, but I don’t believe this is the way God intends for Christians to spread the gospel, or recognize and fulfill their God given responsibilities as His children and as followers of the faith. And as you might guess I doubt that any true born again believer has to travel to some place of special anointing to hear God or to be awakened to their destiny. Why? Because Christ is the anointed One.  So, there is great doubt as to what gospel Dutch and those like him are actually spreading as I don’t seem to find any truth in their NAR or Word of Faith (WOF) doctrines.

I’ve added some links to some of my writings to help pull this together.

Remember, Dutch is looking for those who have not bent their knee to Ba’al to pull this off financially.

December 9, 2009

Dear Friends

Greetings and blessings. I trust you had a great Thanksgiving and will have a wonderful Christmas and Holiday season. Like many, this is one of my favorite times of the year. I always find myself taking a fresh look at the wonder and mystery of Christ becoming one of us. The story still amazes me.

Christ never became one of us. He is God incarnate, fully God, fully man. This statement is a big woe.

Over the past year many of us have watched with “shock and awe” at the speed and undisguised efforts of our President and Congress to reshape America and rewrite her history. It has been terrifying.

I agree with this statement, as it has become so blatantly clear that Obama and those he has employed have no regard for sound Christian faith or the American people.  Except that it is not the responsibility of the government to uphold the faith, but it is the work of the Christians.  (See how this kind of fits with the Manhattan Declaration. The same buzz word “unity” which is a biggie right now even in the charismatic circle. See the references to the US Constitution, founding fathers intent, etc., and the claimed call of God to stand for these things in America.)

Link to article on New Age Spirituality in Manhattan Declaration

But, God has not given up on America and neither should we. His heart and passion still consumes us and we continue to hold fast to our faith that He is coming with a great awakening and outpouring to this nation.

I question where Dutch gets this idea of a great awakening and outpouring. I know that there have been true revivals in the past. But never by any of these new apostles.

Like many, we are working very hard, doing our part to see this come to pass. (I have been on the road 24 of the last 33 days.) It is a joy to travel across our great nation. My life theme now is to light fires of awakening and sow seeds of reformation. America must have both! Thank you for allowing me to share my heart with you.

Work, work, work. It’s my job and yours is to pay me and my troupe.  Really tho. Who wouldn’t want to travel this great country, stay in fine hotels and have your meals prepared by great chefs!  How hard is that?

If Dutch’s life theme is to light these fires, what have the rest of the Christians been doing all these years? What about the true and faithful pastors and teachers, called to preach and teach the word? Are they nothing? I know there aren’t many of them anymore, but don’t count on these guys bringing much to the table, either.

Along with the normal travels and activities I continue to do, I am working on three huge projects I’d like to make you aware of.

Link to my article  – awakening or just wake up?

First, we have begun a tour called the Awakening and Reformation Tour, in which we plan to go to 30 – 40 cities over the next 18 months. It is a significant endeavor, with 7 ministries and several members of my staff going to each city. The purpose is to announce and release awakening. I believe the Lord told me we are not waiting on Him for the awakening we’ve cried out for – He is waiting on us – and that if we would go He would empower and anoint us to release the spirit of awakening across the nation.

I thought believers were already equipped to preach the gospel through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.  What is a spirit of awakening? Are we asleep?

The first two tour gatherings have been tremendous and we believe this week in Houston, and each one in the future, will be even more powerful (please go to http://www.theartour.com for schedules and more information.)

Why will the meetings gain in power? Does the God gain power when He is moved from place to place as in this tour?

The second project is a large outdoor, 3-day gathering in June of 2010 called Wilderness Outcry. The way God has sovereignty orchestrated this gathering with dreams, divine encounters and events has been amazing.  All subjective. We all know how questionable these spiritual encounters are and how dangerous they can prove to be. We’re expecting 100,000 – 200,000 people. The event has so much wind of the Holy Spirit on it that I feel it may end up being the most significant event I’ve ever participated in.

Wind of the Holy Spirit? What does he mean by this statement? Has anyone really felt the wind of the Holy Spirit other than those described in Acts 2? Why can’t the rest of the body feel this wind? I guess it’s another one of those – “come and get some” events.

I truly believe it has the potential to help launch the Third Great Awakening in America. Hmm…didn’t they say something along those lines about Todd Bentley?? You can get all the details by logging on to The third project is one I have mentioned to you before, but due to the possibility of the idea being stolen I have not given you specifics. (One organization has already tried to steal it.) http://www.wildernessoutcry.com.

This statement is what really bothered me the most and got my true attention. I guess Dutch thinks this word from God was for him only and he had to guard it so that he would be given the credit for hearing and obeying. If this was truly of God, wouldn’t others hear the same thing? Doesn’t it take the BODY to accomplish the purpose of Christ? I guess not if you are an anointed apostle like Dutch.

This project has the potential of impacting our nation in a huge way for many years. What we are working on is an American heritage and prayer Bible containing hundreds (close to a thousand) of quotes and facts from our nation’s founders, early leaders, educators, government officials, etc.

So now we will have access to the word of God and the intent of man all rolled together. I am not against learning about and standing up for our constitution. I am against this man’s ideas and his claims that he has heard this from God. And besides, the word was given to all men, not just those residing in America.

These quotes completely disprove all of the efforts to revise our history and Christian heritage. They prove our Christian roots and God-given destiny, our founding fathers’ intentions, and completely disprove the lie of the separation of church and state.

Each quote is footnoted from a pertinent verse of scripture.

So they can prove what they claim is biblical even though America is not mentioned specifically in the bible.

The information in this Bible is more powerful than you can imagine. So it is more powerful than any bible we have received so far.  Families, individuals, young people, students, leaders, etc. who use it as a devotional tool will be incredibly impacted – overwhelmingly so – as they realize God’s hand in the forming of our nation. The idea for this Bible came in a powerful visitation (again subjective) from the Lord and I have a deep faith that it will be one of the tools God uses to help us recapture His dream for America!

What dream did God have? You better believe this bible is one to avoid as more than likely it will be founded on WOF and NAR charismatic crazy doctrine.

The Bible will also contain close to a thousand short quotes on prayer to inspire and motivate people to pray for America.

So, the command to pray out of obedience is not enough. We have to have a historic motivation.  Besides, why are these elitists always harping that little guy doesn’t pray enough?

It also will have a copy of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and other important documents in the index. There is nothing like it. We want to get this into the hands of every young person possible (as well as older folks, of course), because most of them know nothing about our true heritage and God-given destiny – it has been completely stolen from them. We intend to distribute hundreds of thousands of these Bibles and also to develop Bible studies and other spin-offs to help disseminate the information. The potential of this project is staggering. We have been working on it for over two years!

As you can imagine, the cost of these three projects is great. We have had to bear the load of heavy up-front costs for the Bible – I have over $250,000 invested in it so far – without being able to raise funds (because of the need for secrecy.)

Why again this need for secrecy?

It has strapped and stretched us greatly. We also had to front approximately $30,000 for the Awakening Tour, and now I’m now being told I need $100,000 immediately for all of the up-front contracts for Wilderness Outcry, the outdoor gathering this summer.

Why do these men do this? Why do the insist on creating these debts and expect other to foot the bill?

If you have followed our ministry in the past, you know I am not one who regularly makes appeals for finances and I never use manipulative strategies.

Oh. So, telling people God has said…and then asking for cash is not manipulative..???  As tho anyone of us wants to willingly disobey God. ugh.

But with all of these expenses, combined with the ailing economy which has effected giving, Dutch Sheets Ministries is in a more desperate situation than we have ever been in. Without a significant financial breakthrough by the end of this month, we will have to lay-off several staff members and put some of these projects on hold. I do not believe this is what God wants.

Maybe this is the will of God, seeing as the entire country is in a state of need with starving children, so many out of work, losing homes and investments by the bazillions, creating a homeless people situation by the thousands who have nothing other than to walk the streets. And God is going to say give your money to this man so I can awaken you, so I can give you this Americanized version of the bible?….

I, for one, have been praying that God would remove these false teachers, prophets and evangelists and that He would open the eyes of those who have been blinded by their lies and deceptive teachings. So, if this kingdom Dutch built is crumbling, I have to say God is answering my prayer.

Any help you can give us at this time will be very appreciated. If some of you can give significant gifts, they are very needed. And, finally, if you know anyone, or perhaps a foundation, that you feel might want to help in a significant way with this Bible (we will need at least $500,000 more to finish the development and print the first run) and would be willing to pass on this information to them, we would be grateful. Also, please pray with us for the breakthrough we need at this time. We’re confident God is going to provide.

Somehow I don’t think this is the intention of our Father, but we all need to settle that for ourselves. Send Dutch hundreds of thousands in cash and let the poor starve and freeze. And have a Merry Christmas in the meantime and a happy and prosperous New Year.

Can anyone say One World Religion?

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With a grateful heart,

Dutch Sheets

Dutch Sheets Ministries | 3945 N. Academy Blvd | Colorado Springs | CO | 80917

Awakening or Just Wake Up?

The Awakening and Reformation Tour

Already in process:

Dutch Sheets and Lou Engle bringing the Awakening and Reformation Tour. Sounds like rock and roll to me – TOUR, or a little Rodney Howard Browne.

More taking the seven mountains of influence for the Kingdom of God

Revival and spiritual awakening is not enough. We must reform the seven mountains of our society and culture (family, religion, government, business, education, arts and entertainment, media). In light of this, awakening, reformation, and generational synergy to accomplish a greater goal must be joined. God has asked us to marry them in a series of public gatherings. That plan is now clearly defined and in place.

More twisting scripture to say something other than what it does to convince others to join in:

The Blog: The lord gave us a plan called the 747 Company. He showed us how in first Kings 18 He showed Elijah that there were 7,000 people that hadn’t bowed there knee to Ba’al. We believe that there are 7,000 people who will help us and support us as we go into many different cities in the nation and light fires of awakening and sow seeds of reformation. We are simply asking for 7,000 people to commit to giving 7 dollars a month in support of the Awakening and Reformation tour.  (I don’t see the connection between those who would not bow their knee to a false god and those who are willing to give cold hard cash to a cause.  By all means let’s use the number 7 to make it sound more divine and convincing!)

No one really knew that Jesus was on the scene when John started saying, “Repent, the kingdom of heaven is in your midst.” But God needed someone to announce it. And when we begin to announce and decree these things it does something in the realm of the spirit. It creates an atmosphere that allows God to do what He’s getting ready to do.

So now we need to create an atmosphere to ALLOW God to do what He wants.  More word of faith, speak -things – into- existence garbage repackaged again.

Does anyone really listen to these words to see if the Almighty would really speak them?  We don’t need an awakening. We need to kick these false teachers out of their kingdoms. Wake up, Wake up!

See also: kingdoms

No one really knew that Jesus was on the scene when John started saying, “Repent, the kingdom of heaven is in your midst.” But God needed someone to announce it. And when we begin to announce and decree these things it does something in the realm of the spirit. It creates an atmosphere that allows God to do what He’s getting ready to do.

kingdoms

Seven Mountains

The background image for Global Harvest Ministries under C. Peter Wagner, Doris Wagner and Chuck Pierce. The image is the “seven mountains” representing the seven major areas of influence in society: religion, family, education, government, media, entertainment, and business shown symbolically at the foot of the mountain of what I guess they must consider to be Mt. Sinai.

This signifies what they consider to be their call  – to take the influence, power and authority of their “god” into all areas of society, transforming every person into a Utopian society. This will either bring the second coming of Jesus, since He cannot return until we shape up and get it done, or some teach the believer will actually embody Christ and there will not even be a second coming. I have found this same teachings on the seven mountains from Cal Pierce, International Association of Healing Rooms and from Bill Johnson, Bethel.

If you listen to the prophet, Chuck Pierce, who many follow to the letter, you will not hear a mention of Jesus Christ or of the gospel. It is all about the battle, the land, the fire, the sound, a new season or a new beginning, weird symbolism (just look at the stuff on their stages, or “altars”), and numerology. He really likes the numbers on the Hebrew calendar and gets his symbolism for the year according to its numbers. Some attribute his stuff to Kabballah, which is a mystical form of Judaism.

Below are a couple of videos taken from his website. I have listened to him for a few years. In the beginning I could not understand him, and attributed that to his great wisdom. He had it, I did not. But I have listened and watched him off and on this past year as I’ve done the research. His messages or what he calls “prophesies” are becoming more strange all the time. Is no one testing this man?

Lots of fire. They like it, their god likes it. A five year old could make the connection why exactly!

I don’t think they are even listening to this man spew his weirdness.  They are too enthralled or blessed that their god would grant them the opportunity to be in such a gathering before the great one.

See how they raise their hands in worship or in agreement?  Why?  This is really a bad idea, really.

d sheets host presence

This image is taken from an older Dutch Sheets Ministries web page in which he called, or as he tells it, “god” called for his congregation to stop preaching and only “host his presence” for a 90 day period. If you google the phrase “hosting his presence”  you will find quite a few ministries or churches who jumped on this bandwagon in one form or another. So, no gospel, just worship, worship, worship. I thought the Holy Spirit indwelled in the believer. Why would we need to host him? But, here again, is that “tangible presence” so coveted. Dutch is also associated with the Wagners  Chuck Pierce and Cindy Jacobs.

Cindy Jacobs of Generals International is all about society transformation as her tag line on her website states “Achieving Societal Transformation Through Intercession and the Prophetic”. She is very much into intercession and words of what she calls prophecy. It is not about the individual coming to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ through the word of God, but the transformation of nations through the false prophetic word of a woman. She is much into the battle literally, the war, taking the gates, standing off the enemy – and – empowering women through her yearly Deborah Company, which is a gathering of elitist women as it is by invitation only. Several years ago I was one of the intercessors involved in her 40 Days of Prayer and Fasting during which I picked up quite a bit of false teaching and impartation. It was where I first heard of the “seer” gift and was told I could have it if I wanted it, just ask. I did. I got what I asked for. Beware people.

These people – C Peter Wagner, Chuck Pierce, Dutch Sheets and Cindy Jacobs form what is known as the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) and there are many who follow along with them. There is much more to their ministries and their deceptive unbiblical practices than I have written here. This is known as Dominion or Kingdom Now as they believe they are taking the dominion over the world to bring the kingdom.

The Expansion Mandate

Oh, the cunning Bill Johnson. There is just something about this man’s demeanor that is quite different from all the rest. He is always so very “laid back” and comfortable.  Here, he too is building a kingdom. Look closely and you can see the outlines of some very strange buildings. Hmm, looks a little like the Arabian Knights to me along with London, America or at least the symbol of America.  And if you look just below the title – Expansion Mandate, you will see the words Hosting His Presence. Below, the  caption – “All He is looking for is people who will rise to the Mandate and say, ‘We will serve the nations we will pour ourselves out for a generation we will never see’ “. So, who is the “He” of this “Mandate” whose presence needs to be hosted?  Not our God, not our Savior Jesus as we are not called to serve the “nations” but to serve God.

He claims that so many are coming from all over the world that there is need for a new sanctuary. I have no doubt. I have seen first hand the force this man has over the masses. The danger of elitism and following the ways of man. Does anyone in Bethel own a bible?

The last I checked he was on the board of the International Association of Healing Rooms which connects him with Cal Pierce and the lie that all saved are healed, the saved should not be sick, etc.  And of course he is one of the three men responsible for the “restoration” of Todd Bentley.

A year and a half ago, I was involved in a healing room ministry in which I became the “intercessor” and later, the Associate Director. It was in my first months I received confirmation of my request to “god” to be a seer.  So, it was just about a year and a half ago I participated in a training which we entitled “Releasing Healings and Miracles Through the Power of  – WHAT – YES – His Presence.  See, on this blog if I snitch on other bad ministries I have to snitch on myself too. I was one of them. I am out now.

Strange how interconnected all of these ministries have become. They hear the same things, say the same things, prophecy and declare the same things and all the while they believe that they are hearing from God. Or at least those of us who are still “little people” believe that. I think there comes a time when God is going to completely fade out of it all together. The ministry will still stand as I believe they are the platform of the anti-Christ rising right out of the church.

If you find yourself aligned with these ministries, or many that have patterned themselves in the same way, if you believe you are building a kingdom here on earth for transformation, if you find yourself following after words of prophets that have no base in scripture or Jesus Christ, if you find yourself taken in by the sounds or colors of the season or numerology or if your worship of God has become all about you, what you get out of it, how and what you feel or experience- –get out. Repent and be restored and Jesus will forgive you of your apostasy and restore you to full salvation. He is faithful and true.

Jesus told Pilate “My kingdom is not of this world” in John 18:36; and in Revelation 22:7,12 and 20  the same Jesus says “I am coming quickly”.  Three times in such a short space He reminds us He is coming quickly! Repent and pray for those who are caught up in this deception!