A Series of Unfortunate Events

My friends at Closing Stages pointing out the fallacies behind the statements Jacob Prasch has made – “Because of the fall, women are hyper-sensitive, men are insensitive”.

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A Series of Unfortunate Events” is most commonly classified as children’s fiction, but it has also been classified in more specific genres such as gothic fiction or absurdist fiction, because of its strange characters, improbable storylines, and black comedy.

This is probably the closet one can come in describing and defining a short series of “teachings” on women; recently given by Jacob Prasch. Even young believers with open Bible would be able to see the fiction and lack of scripture  to support what he claims to be Biblical; and black comedy because you either laugh or you cry at the absurdity of how this topic is mishandled.

Because there are repetitive statements (if I say it enough you will believe it) throughout most of these videos, the decision was made to address each video in sections.

“A woman’s covering”  J. Prasch

Section/episode 1: “Because of the fall…

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An Encounter With A Madman..or Two..

Several years ago I came upon the teachings and writings of a very well known teacher, Jacob Prasch. We have had a little bit of discussion regarding his teachings and his not so nice temperament when others came forward and told of their experiences. I believe I have lost some readers because of his cruelty toward them.

Since there is always two sides to a story I was bothered, but moved on. Well, now I have had my own encounter and this is what I am here to expose. Here is where I will ask your forgiveness. I understand now the gravity of his abuse yet remain shaken.

Believe me, I am not happy to write this but it must be said.

For the last year, I have been listening to him quite a bit. I joined a couple of Moriel Friends groups on Facebook, most importantly for our discussion, Friends of Moriel TV, created and moderated by Tim Wirth. Tim has become involved with Moriel creating videos and doing radio work for the Moriel ministry. I became friends with Tim on Facebook a while back after he found  my blog. He commended me for my work and we often exchanged ideas and short conversation through the private message option on Facebook. I grew to believe I could trust him which was a mistake, in retrospect.

A few days ago, Friends of Moriel TV, put out several videos that addressed the topic of women teaching men, coverings, why they “need a Mordecai”, etc. The teaching in these videos by Jacob was poorly done, more personal opinion than scripture. The points made were, well, not made – disjointed thoughts with very little scriptural backing. We would expect more from a man who is known for his claims of biblical knowledge and understanding of scripture, history and context in several languages.

I began to discuss these videos with a dear friend of mine as both of us were quite concerned. One of our concerns was the way the other women in the group reacted to his teachings. When I say cult-like I am not being dramatic. One poor woman stated that she is waiting for her Mordecai. Huh?

I posed a comment in the group for Jacob. You see, if women are indeed to remain silent, or to teach only women, why is it that I, and many other women like me, who are not married and not involved in a church – aka – not under a “covering” able to speak and explain the word of God?

Here is my comment that I copied from the Moriel group, tagging Tim Wirth –

M’Kayla Kelly Tim Wirth – I would like to pose a question in using my own experience and the work I have done which you are aware of. I am not married, I do not belong to a church. Yet, my work in exposing the false teachings of the International Association of Healing Rooms, the false prophetic movement, John Paul Jackson’s dreams and visions, etc., has proved to be quite effective in helping many, many people. This includes men. And it extends beyond just the blogging as I have communicated through e-mail and had telephone conversations with both women and men who have come to me for help. I have been put in the position to expose and to confront the male pastors and ministry leaders I once worked side by side with regarding their deceptive teachings and followings.

I feel something very important has been left out in these videos regarding women. I have a great respect for Jacob – have prayed for him and his family, the ministry, illness, and have often times defended his teaching to those who do not understand midrash, etc., and unfortunately would rather spread gossip about him than listen to the truth. As I have told you, I hold Jacob in high regard and respect.

Given the fact that God knows everything, it comes to no surprise to him that one day women would be operating in these areas, without supposed need for a Mordecai “covering”. In addition, the scriptures make a clear distinction between wives and women.

There is evidence in deeper study, certain women were restricted for specific reasons, during a specific time frame, but it did not apply to all women throughout all time. I am only a bit familiar with the thinking of St Augustine regarding women, which is horrendous, yet I am seeing it reflected in these videos. We can name Piper, McArthur, the list is long…

I am thankful the Lord restored my mind and my relationship with him. All the learning I did in coming out of the deception in 2008 was through him. There was no one to help me understand, yet through the Holy Spirit the truth of scripture unfolded, resulting in the ability to expose the false doctrine and lead others out, and yes, teach men as well. A great burden was placed on me to right the wrong I had done through my own false witness, false prophetic words and in being a leader in these things. It was huge to me and the grief was worse than what I experienced in the loss of my daughter. However, it was never my plan to do these things, it just happened that way, thru the leading and yes – blessing of the Lord.

I blog, I have done 4 interviews through the internet, blogtalk and a couple of others, and I am currently writing a book and am considering my own blogtalk radio.

Do men listen to me? Yes, they do and just as we see in the NT, they commend me for it. And you are one of those men, Tim. I am asking Jacob to rethink these videos because I believe they are damaging and doing an injustice to Christian women who are being led to battle, side by side with the men just as we have been doing throughout time. And as I said, there is evidence that women had more freedom in the NT than what is being presented.

As for a covering, mine is named Jesus Christ. Please consider there are women all over the world who will tell you the same as I have. We are not usurping men. We are not Jezebels. We are not out of sync. We are certainly not hens. We are true Christian women who are fighting for the cause of Christ in the hopes of saving others. We are the women who know one day it may be necessary to lay down our lives for our faith. Please Jacob, I am respectfully asking you to reconsider. And don’t insist we wear the spiritual burqa, as I for one, will not. There is too much at stake.

Just after I posted this comment, I also sent it to Moriel.org, yet told no one I had done this. Shortly afterward, Tim began to private message me which went on for quite a few hours that same day and began again early the next morning. You see, Tim stated he has read my blog and found it to be quite helpful, yet he stated that what I did was not actually “teaching doctrine”.  He kept trying to reassure me that no one had called me a Jezebel, which I never thought or claimed had taken place. He seemed desperate in his attempts and could not seem to understand that I had several times simply requested that my comment be passed to Jacob for review.

Let me add, I do not care whether or not a person believes I am teaching doctrine. I have settled the “woman shut up and sit down” argument years ago after doing research on my own.  I was remiss to not post it here on my blog, but there had been so much going on in my life and things I needed to do pertaining to the blog that I lost sight of it. My apologies.

My concern, if Jacob has such a deep knowledge of the bible and the original languages, why does he come to completely different conclusions than others who have the same kind of education and knowledge? I am speaking of The Key Word Hebrew-Greek Study Bible, edited by Spiros Zodhiates. Or, the writings of Richard and Katherine Clark-Kroeger in “I Suffer Not a Woman”. And I know there are more to be listed but theses will suffice for the point.

I have no qualms and no problem accepting the order God has put in place. I do however believe that women have been given much more freedom to minister in their gifts than man has allowed. I believe in proper context the bible is quite clear on this topic. To proclaim and teach otherwise, Dear Reader, is a grave injustice to the work of the cross.

Here is the response, in video form and posted to the group from Jacob Prasch  and Tim Wirth – believe me, it is not pretty.

 

I wanted to asked the Imam, because these restrictive teachings sound more like Islam than they do Christianity, when’s the stoning?

I immediately said my peace after watching this wretched mess from a madman, and left the group. Tim unfriended me without cause. I don’t understand how it is we cannot have civil and meaningful conversation. What are they so afraid of?

Ephesians 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner in the Lord, beseech you to walk worthily of the calling wherewith ye were called, 2with all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; 3giving diligence to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4There is one body, and one Spirit, even as also ye were called in one hope of your calling; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6one God and Father of all, who is over all, and through all, and in all.

There will be more to come regarding what I believe to be biblical regarding women. This will be done with a group of friends so expect to see it on another blog as well as this one.

Blessing and Peace in Jesus. And thank you all for your encouragement, love and prayers over the years. I pray we STAND.

 

RIGHT JUDGEMENT

As we well know, speaking truth is often met with offense by nay-sayers, people who don’t like to know or hear what the bible has to say in certain areas. Anymore, the phrases “Judge Not!” or “You shouldn’t judge!” have taken on somewhat of a mantra effect, as though the words when spoken would bring some kind of protective power, a sort of talisman, if you will.

Well, the bible teaches that judgement is right and necessary and is quite specific on how and when it should be done. The blogger at Following Jesus Christ provides us with clarification regarding  the topic of righteous, or as he puts it, “right judgment”. Read on and be better prepared for the next time a nay-sayer tosses the  pet phrase your way.

One of the most profound and destructive lies spouted by both Christians and non-Christians alike, is that believers in Jesus Christ are not to ever judge anyone or anything. We are simply told to live and let live, as our culture and even our Christian friends disintegrate before our eyes…falling into apostasy, and away from all that is true and right before our great God.

Source: RIGHT JUDGEMENT

A Look at Dreams and Visions

I wanted to take a closer look at what the bible has to say in the areas of dreams and visions. These experiences have become quite popular over the years with many people  who claim their dreams are from God. Others claim the ability to interpret the dreams and produce many resources and conduct expensive classes to teach the ability to do the same.  Some will go so far as to provide impartations at the conclusion of classes through the laying on of hands so that the attendees will receive the gift of dreams and visions with the ability to interpret same.

I have always been a big dreamer. I dream almost every night and some of those dreams seem to go on for long periods of time. They are filled with all sorts of things, people, some living, some not, places, animals, colors, probably much like you dream. Some dreams are pleasant, some are disturbing and others are full on nightmares. I wake from my dreams sometimes happy, even laughing, sometimes I am crying, other times I have been known to scream out loud. I have times where I wake up in a full on panic attack. See? Nothing so special or different from what anyone else might experience while sleeping, except of course, to those who claim they never dream.

When I became involved in various false teachings I was noted for a gift in prophecy, which spilled over into the area of dreams and visions. It is believed those who are prophetic can also do the same in the night hours or simply while napping. Visions are more known to happen to people while awake, but the bible also mentions night visions. Regardless of these specifics, it is believed God is speaking during those moments. People with this gift are known as seer-prophets. Most organizations place a great deal importance on the prophetic gift and great responsibility on those who are known to operate under them. Many decisions are made based on what is deemed as a prophetic word, dream or vision, and these can steer an entire organization into a specific direction. I learned that oftentimes more emphasis is placed on the prophetic than is on scripture or prayer.

With all of this in mind, we owe it to ourselves and to the Lord to know the truth. I believe what you are about to read is going to have a profound impact in how you view the entire concept of dreams and visions. I believe you will gain a clearer understanding because we are going to God’s word for answers and instruction rather than a person’s claim to have knowledge and mass-produced resources.

Dreams with Clear Messages

In this section I will be using two examples taken from the bible, one from the old testament, and the other from the new testament. Both of these dreams provide the dreamer with a clear understanding of who spoke, the content of the message and the reason for the dream. I am only using enough scripture to make the points I need to in the subject of dreams. I would advise that you carefully read these stories in their entirety.

Jacob

This dream is commonly referred to as Jacob’s Ladder. Most everyone is somewhat familiar with the visual concept, even those who don’t know much else about the bible. Its familiarity and clear message are reasons why I chose to use it as the first example.

Genesis 28:10And Jacob went out from Beersheba, and went toward Haran. 11And he lighted upon a certain place, and tarried there all night, because the sun was set; and he took of the stones of that place, and put them for his pillows, and lay down in that place to sleep. 12And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it. 13And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I am the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed; 14And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed. 15And, behold, I am with thee, and will keep thee in all places whither thou goest, and will bring thee again into this land; for I will not leave thee, until I have done that which I have spoken to thee of. 16And Jacob awaked out of his sleep, and he said, Surely the LORD is in this place; and I knew it not. 17And he was afraid, and said, How dreadful is this place! this is none other but the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven.

So here we have the amazing story of Jacob who stops for the night during his travels. Just imagine God, the Creator of all things showing Jacob angels moving up and down on a heavenly ladder! And above that ladder stands God proclaiming to Jacob who He is! Can you imagine God speaking to a man this way while he slept on the ground?

Aside from that, notice the words God used were very plain and Jacob understood it was the Lord speaking to him during the night. Jacob understood what was said to him. There is no strange symbolism in this dream, just an easy to understand message from God. In the morning, Jacob is in awe, and rightly so because unquestionably he knew that God spoke to him while he slept.

Joseph

This is a piece of the story regarding the virgin birth of Christ in which Joseph finds Mary to be pregnant. Joseph knows he is not the father of her baby and who would not doubt such a thing. But before Joseph made the wrong decision and to correct his own thinking, God sent an angel to deliver a very important truth!

Matthew 1:18Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. 19Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. 20But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 21And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. 22Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. 24Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

So again, a very powerful and awesome message is given and yet this time by an angel. The message is clear and understood by the dreamer who follows through with its instruction.

It is quite simple to see from these two examples that God speaks very clearly to His people. I believe clear communication is very important to God and it is important that we, as His people know we can understand Him. Think about that point, though, we are not talking about all people but His people, those who choose to know and follow Him.  The following scriptures refer to calling and salvation, but the language on who hears His voice is made clear.

John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. 4And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of stranger.

John10:27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.

Dreams with Symbols

This next section gets a little tricky as the dreams are more complex. They are full of symbolism involving plants and animals that don’t make any sense to us at all. We have all had these types of dreams when we later woke up wondering what that crazy was all about. Well, the content of these dreams will have the same effect when first presented. But God has His place for crazy.

In these examples God is not speaking to His people, but He is providing dreams so that their imagery can be interpreted by those who have put their faith and trust in Him. The people called to interpret these wild dreams will be put in situations that are dire, making them even desperate for God’s help, creating a need for His answers in ways that most of us have not yet experienced. In addition, He is making His presence known to those who do not follow Him. Once we make the effort to read these stories, their messages and purposes become very clear.

Joseph

You have probably heard about the boy with the colored jacket, the one whose brothers tossed him down a well. Yes, this is the same guy, Joseph, whose obviously had some pretty hard times.

Joseph finds himself wrongly accused and imprisoned for something he did not do. While in prison he meets up with Pharaoh’s butler and baker who both presented him with their dreams.

Genesis 40:6And Joseph came in unto them in the morning, and looked upon them, and, behold, they were sad. 7And he asked Pharaoh’s officers that were with him in the ward of his lord’s house, saying, Wherefore look ye so sadly to day? 8And they said unto him, We have dreamed a dream, and there is no interpreter of it. And Joseph said unto them, Do not interpretations belong to God? tell me them, I pray you.9And the chief butler told his dream to Joseph, and said to him, In my dream, behold, a vine was before me; 10And in the vine were three branches: and it was as though it budded, and her blossoms shot forth; and the clusters thereof brought forth ripe grapes: 11And Pharaoh’s cup was in my hand: and I took the grapes, and pressed them into Pharaoh’s cup, and I gave the cup into Pharaoh’s hand.

12And Joseph said unto him, This is the interpretation of it: The three branches are three days: 13Yet within three days shall Pharaoh lift up thine head, and restore thee unto thy place: and thou shalt deliver Pharaoh’s cup into his hand, after the former manner when thou wast his butler. 14But think on me when it shall be well with thee, and shew kindness, I pray thee, unto me, and make mention of me unto Pharaoh, and bring me out of this house: 15For indeed I was stolen away out of the land of the Hebrews: and here also have I done nothing that they should put me into the dungeon.

16When the chief baker saw that the interpretation was good, he said unto Joseph, I also was in my dream, and, behold, I had three white baskets on my head: 17And in the uppermost basket there was of all manner of bakemeats for Pharaoh; and the birds did eat them out of the basket upon my head.

18And Joseph answered and said, This is the interpretation thereof: The three baskets are three days: 19Yet within three days shall Pharaoh lift up thy head from off thee, and shall hang thee on a tree; and the birds shall eat thy flesh from off thee.

20And it came to pass the third day, which was Pharaoh’s birthday, that he made a feast unto all his servants: and he lifted up the head of the chief butler and of the chief baker among his servants. 21And he restored the chief butler unto his butlership again; and he gave the cup into Pharaoh’s hand: 22But he hanged the chief baker: as Joseph had interpreted to them. 23Yet did not the chief butler remember Joseph, but forgat him.

Notice in verse 8 where Joseph proclaims interpretations of dreams belong to God. This is an important point to pay attention to. He didn’t claim the ability or the gift to interpret dreams as his own. He didn’t consult with anyone regarding the meaning of the imagery, nor did he let the strangeness of the dreams shake him. Joseph knew the meaning of the dreams because God revealed the message to him and there seemed to be no doubt in Joseph’s mind from the start that God would do that very thing.  The dreams both carried prophetic messages which proved to be true. It worked out well for the butler, but not so much for the poor baker.

Again, Joseph is betrayed and left forgotten and spends another two years in that prison. But the story continues and this time it is Pharaoh who does the dreaming.

41:1And it came to pass at the end of two full years, that Pharaoh dreamed: and, behold, he stood by the river. 2And, behold, there came up out of the river seven well favoured kine and fatfleshed; and they fed in a meadow. 3And, behold, seven other kine came up after them out of the river, ill favoured and leanfleshed; and stood by the other kine upon the brink of the river. 4And the ill favoured and leanfleshed kine did eat up the seven well favoured and fat kine. So Pharaoh awoke.

5And he slept and dreamed the second time: and, behold, seven ears of corn came up upon one stalk, rank and good. 6And, behold, seven thin ears and blasted with the east wind sprung up after them. 7And the seven thin ears devoured the seven rank and full ears. And Pharaoh awoke, and, behold, it was a dream.

8And it came to pass in the morning that his spirit was troubled; and he sent and called for all the magicians of Egypt, and all the wise men thereof: and Pharaoh told them his dream; but there was none that could interpret them unto Pharaoh.

Pharaoh had two consecutive dreams which troubled him. He did not know the meaning of the dreams and so-called his wise men and magicians to help him with the understanding. It must be hard having so much power and importance in a role such as the Pharaoh and yet not know your mind while sleeping! And so these men who were called, with all their gifting could not help him gain the understanding. The meaning of the imagery was kept from even those who were considered most powerful and most wise.

9Then spake the chief butler unto Pharaoh, saying, I do remember my faults this day: 10Pharaoh was wroth with his servants, and put me in ward in the captain of the guard’s house, both me and the chief baker: 11And we dreamed a dream in one night, I and he; we dreamed each man according to the interpretation of his dream. 12And there was there with us a young man, an Hebrew, servant to the captain of the guard; and we told him, and he interpreted to us our dreams; to each man according to his dream he did interpret. 13And it came to pass, as he interpreted to us, so it was; me he restored unto mine office, and him he hanged.

So, enter into the picture forgotten Joseph! And it makes me almost want to cheer for him, after all he has suffered to be called into such an important role and in such a crucial time. Here we will find out why. As I said, I won’t be posting all of the scriptures, just the ones to make clear what is taking place. The previous verses were posted so we can see how the imagery fits into the story and how it is interpreted. From here on I will pick through the story to bring out the points that need to be made and understood for the purpose of our topic.

As we continue to read the story we see in the verses that follow Pharaoh summons Joseph and tells him about the two dreams. In the latter part of verse 24 Pharaoh states

24…and I told this unto the magicians; but there was none that could declare it to me.

To which Joseph immediately responds

25And Joseph said unto Pharaoh, The dream of Pharaoh is one: God hath shewed Pharaoh what he is about to do. 32And for that the dream was doubled unto Pharaoh twice; it is because the thing is established by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass.

Joseph then explains the meaning of the dream which will ultimately prove to be a severe famine. Joseph again provides interpretation without pause and without taking personal gifting for the ability to understand the dream. He makes clear that the dream came from God and the events depicted in the dream will soon take place.

38And Pharaoh said unto his servants, Can we find such a one as this is, a man in whom the Spirit of God is? 39And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, Forasmuch as God hath shewed thee all this, there is none so discreet and wise as thou art:

Pharaoh acknowledged that God had revealed those things to him and found Joseph’s wisdom to be unmatched in the land, even above those previously considered the most wise. God gives us wisdom when we ask.

James 5:1 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

The word discreet in verse 39 also means to discern. How often have you heard someone claim to have the gift of discernment? Here we see it given to mature believers.

Hebrews 5:14But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Daniel

I want to quickly look at the early experiences of Daniel as the examples are similar to that of Joseph. I believe doing this will help to clarify scriptural points. Where there is repetition, there is great importance. Anytime we see something repeat itself, whether it be a story, a theme, or even just a phrase, it is a place to take notice.

In Daniel chapter one we see him as one brought in to serve under the King of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar. He is accompanied by three of his pals, along with others who were descendents and nobles of the king.

17As for these four children, God gave them knowledge and skill in all learning and wisdom: and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams.

20And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king inquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm.

Again we see that God gives knowledge, but here we see also the point made that Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams. And as for our group of the four young men they were found to be wiser than all the magicians and astrologers in the land. God’s power and His gifts will always outdo that of Satan and the occult practices we see in the supernatural. In the same manner, the true gifts of God will out perform any of the false gifts that are prevalent today. Such gifts will gain in power because it has been ordained by God that they must. Many will be deceived during those times and that truth is a reason for this writing.

In chapter two King Nebuchadnezzar has a dream that leaves him quite troubled. He calls for his magicians, astrologers, sorcerers and the Chaldeans, all of the men gifted in the occult to tell of his dream.  But unlike Pharaoh in the previous story, this King wants to be told the dream itself and the interpretation. This is his demand at the threat of death and destruction to their households if they could not, but great gifts with great honor as rewards should any of them know the answer. In verse 10 it is the Chaldeans who claim it’s impossibility –

10The Chaldeans answered before the king, and said, There is not a man upon the earth that can shew the king’s matter: therefore there is no king, lord, nor ruler, that asked such things at any magician, or astrologer, or Chaldean. 11And it is a rare thing that the king requireth, and there is none other that can shew it before the king, except the gods, whose dwelling is not with flesh.

Here is it established from the wisest of the wise this demand from the King is not within a mere mortal’s capability. It simply could not be done. The story continues as the King was quite angry and sent out a decree to kill all of those deemed to be wise. This decree included Daniel and his three companions.

14Then Daniel answered with counsel and wisdom to Arioch the captain of the king’s guard, which was gone forth to slay the wise men of Babylon: 15He answered and said to Arioch the king’s captain, Why is the decree so hasty from the king? Then Arioch made the thing known to Daniel. 16Then Daniel went in, and desired of the king that he would give him time, and that he would shew the king the interpretation.

17Then Daniel went to his house, and made the thing known to Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah, his companions: 18That they would desire mercies of the God of heaven concerning this secret; that Daniel and his fellows should not perish with the rest of the wise men of Babylon.

19Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of heaven.

20Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:

We see here that Daniel went to his friends and prayed that the Lord would give them mercy for this situation. Later in the night, while he slept, Daniel was given the dream and it’s interpretation, for which he later will give God glory. Again we see that God gives wisdom and we are also told he reveals deep and secret things, even those that are impossible to know on our own.

20Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:

21And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

22He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.

23I thank thee, and praise thee, O thou God of my fathers, who hast given me wisdom and might, and hast made known unto me now what we desired of thee: for thou hast now made known unto us the king’s matter.

Daniel reiterates to the King that this dream was given by God and the purpose of the dream was to show the King what was in his own heart.

27Daniel answered in the presence of the king, and said, The secret which the king hath demanded cannot the wise men, the astrologers, the magicians, the soothsayers, shew unto the king; 28But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to the king Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days. Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy bed, are these; 29As for thee, O king, thy thoughts came into thy mind upon thy bed, what should come to pass hereafter: and he that revealeth secrets maketh known to thee what shall come to pass. 30But as for me, this secret is not revealed to me for any wisdom that I have more than any living, but for their sakes that shall make known the interpretation to the king, and that thou mightest know the thoughts of thy heart.

Now, this dream has some very serious implications and meanings, and as Daniel stated are for the latter days and its complete meaning is yet to unfold. I’m not interpreting dreams, only pointing out what the scriptures have to say about them.

After the dream and it’s meaning are explained by Daniel, remember a feat claimed to be impossible for a mere man, we see  an unbelieving King acknowledge God, the revealer of secrets!

47The king answered unto Daniel, and said, Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldest reveal this secret.

Trances with Visions and Imagery Including Angelic Visitation

Some believers claim to go into trance states and have visions. They also claim to receive special messages and direction from God during while in the trances.  I wanted to take a look at an example from scripture and came upon a very interesting and complex story of Cornelius and Peter.  Both of these men were considered devout and given to prayer.

Acts chapter 10 begins with a man called Cornelius who during a time of prayer receives a visit by an angel through a vision. Though afraid,Cornelius immediately recognizes him as a messenger from the Lord and responds accordingly.

3He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius. 4And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God. 5And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter: 6He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do.

It is exciting that the angel addressed him by name, “Cornelius”. The angel gave him instructions on what he and his men were to do and who the men were to ask for, again by name, Simon Peter, and where he would be found. It’s very personal and we shouldn’t be surprised because we are known by name. However, the point that we need to remember here is clarity. Clear instruction.

Continuing, we see Peter enter the story and this is where some odd imagery comes in to play.

9On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour: 10And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, 11And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: 12Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. 13And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. 14But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. 15And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. 16This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

God is speaking to Peter in a vision, while in a trance. Peter sees imagery that is familiar to him and at first misunderstands the meaning of what he is shown. God repeats the message three times, and we remember that repetition means importance. Peter does not fully understand the meaning of all that he has been shown and he doesn’t understand why he is being shown these things. Verse 17 states that he doubted within himself the meaning of the vision. At the same time, God’s plan unfolds, and in verse 19 Peter begins to receive instruction through the Holy Spirit.

19While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.  20Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them.

Just after we see the two men meet according to the instructions that had both been given. Note Peter’s response:

28And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Peter understands the meaning of the vision that had previously not been clear. Because of the wording in verse 19 we know the revelation came from the Lord. There is no other way he could have known.

As the story continues through the rest of chapter 10, and we see God’s purpose for these visions was to bring salvation to the Gentiles. Verse 34 states:

34Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

These stories are truly amazing in their content and have deep meaning when read in their entirety. In them, we see God’s plan unfolding before our very eyes.  I believe communication is very important to God and we see Him offering different methods of communication through these dreams and visions. God makes His plan known to His people. We see God reach out and speak clearly to those who love Him so that they can understand Him.

We see great leaders, Pharaohs and Kings given dreams by God containing bothersome symbolism that they, nor anyone in their courts could understand. Yet God called men, seemingly unimportant to the world, and explained to them the deep hidden secrets implanted in the minds and dreams of those great rulers.  We see God give wisdom and discernment to those who ask. And we seek God make His existence known to others who do not know Him.

All who witnessed these mighty and unmatched acts knew these miracles came from the Most High God.   And they were indeed, miracles, feats with specific purposes of God which cannot be mimicked or dumbed down for the deceitful and selfish, gainful purposes of mere men and women.

We cannot read these stories and still come away thinking we need people to teach us how to understand our own dreams and visions. Or, that we need an impartation to receive the ability to do so.  If and when God speaks to us in a dream or a vision we will know all that we need to because we belong to Him and hear His voice. And if there be any doubt we can rest assured we have the precious word of God to guide us and the Holy Spirit to lead us and to reveal the truth. That’s His job. Anything else is just a lie.

The scriptures are very clear.

 ©M’Kayla Kelly 2015

 

Death of a False Prophet, John Paul Jackson Has Passed

The man, John Paul Jackson,who I once took my dream interpretation training from has passed away. The man was a proven false teacher and false prophet, and I am floored and grieved at this news. And unless he repented and found the truth, he stood before God in judgement, without Christ.

Unfortunately, his work in deceiving masses will continue. Please be aware of who you follow and test everything through the perfect teaching of the bible, which will never fail us.

http://www.streamsministries.com/

Expose of the (not so) Holy Ghost Movie with Tim Wirth and Sandy Simpson

I watched this video about a week ago and the memories of the things I had once been involved with brought me to tears. These are the exact things that I was personally a part of and have been speaking against. So many still won’t listen or hear the truth. Watch this. Pray. Please continue to preach the truth.

Also:

https://mkayla.wordpress.com/2014/07/27/the-truth-and-the-lie-are-set-up-side-by-side/

The Truth and The Lie Are Set Up Side by Side

I’ve been writing for several years now, exposing the false signs and wonders of Charismania that has taken over the church. This movement has come from many sources, mine were the International Association of Healing Rooms, heavily influenced by Bill Johnson, Bethel, in Redding, CA, and a long list of names and teachers to go along, including Heidi Baker of Iris Ministries, John Paul Jackson of Streams Ministries. I operated in the false prophetic, laid hands on people, zapping them with strange electrical power that did nothing but knock them (and me) around. I think most of you know my past, so I won’t rehash it just now. It is important that you understand the power was quite real, quite dramatic, and just as all sin is for a time, quite fun. I watched as I felt that presence go from warm and comforting, to electrical and painful, even scary at times.

I have found the greatest doctrinal error in those groups was the misunderstanding of the Holy Spirit and how He operates in the lives of believers and in the lives of unbelievers. He has a very specific part to play and He does not work in the life of a believer in the same way He does an unbeliever. One thing that I will note which is a very important foundational knowledge:

John 16:12“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to

you.

For better clarification and to alleviate misunderstood doctrine regarding the Holy Spirit, please read the words of Jesus as He explains Him to His disciples in John 14, 15, 16. If everyone did that I wouldn’t be writing this article and charsimania would never have existed.

I want you to keep this in mind as you watch the videos that follow. I believe this movie made by Darren Wilson (Finger of God, Father of Lights) will play a large role in further deceiving the masses, first believers and then unbelievers. Darren’s previous movies clearly displayed the false signs and lying wonders of fallen manna and gold teeth mysteriously appearing in the mouths of people. Darren, like many of us, wanted to see more of God – more power, more healings, more miracles and so he opened himself up to the god of charismania. This movie is just another false idea that we need to be in a specific place to receive in truth was freely given for the asking. All of charismania believes there are specific places where God “shows up”. This is not the teaching of the New Testament.

I experienced the power they speak of in this movie attributed to the work of the Holy Spirit. I experience the lying wonders. And though they use His title (just as they use the name of Jesus) they do not know Him, nor do they speak for, or of Him. The power behind this movie is the same power behind Charismania. It is demonic. It is not Jesus.

The few of the people involved in this movie: Michael W Smith, Heidi Baker, Bill Johnson, Randy Clark, Andrew Wommack, Todd White and Kim Walker. Darren has made a plea to the public to get involved too. Word of mouth advertising is most effective. I hope those of us who speak the truth will do the same and get the truth out there.

The following link comes from Charisma –

Holy Ghost Movie

Yes, I am greatly disturbed and grieved. This is probably the hardest article I have written since the beginning of my blog. I have seen things go from bad to worse. People, we cannot have the power of the Holy Spirit without repentance! Bethel and IAHR, and all the rest, believe it is a force that can be passed off from one person to another, by way of impartation. It is not repentance they are after. It is the power.

The following video is a collection on Brian Welch of Korn. Brian is in the Holy Ghost movie and claims to know Christ. He left Korn, formed his own band, then returned to Korn. He pals around with John Crowder; is depicted in the last part of the video with Todd Bentley and Patricia King doing their usual false prophetic thing in telling Brian, like they tell everyone, how great an influence he will be.

I have to warn you this video can get quite graphic but you need to know, the world needs to know who is taking part in the Holy Ghost movie. As for repentance, where is Christ beyond the use of His name? Again, caution in viewing.

This is a more “intimate” video further revealing the euphoric, drunken, even sexual influence of the demon referred to as “jesus”. We are not seeing this for the first time. We  will not find the disciples describe Jesus, the Messiah, in such a way in the pages of the bible.

By now you are seeing many things. An important point that we want to remember is in all of this, is the focus is not put on Christ, it is put on the person – fame and fortune, a bit of word of faith prosperity. Christ calls us to repent and to turn from our sin. We are called out from the world.

I believe there is a reason the music world has been pulled into this deception and I will get into that another time.

You see how the truth and the lie have been set up side by side.

The first release is scheduled for August 9.

Other reads:

It’s All Been a Set Up

Holy Spirit Manifestations

 

 

 

 

 

It’s All Been A Set Up

2 Thessalonians 2:

9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan with all power, signs, and lying wonders,

10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, and they might be saved.

11 And for this reason God will send the a strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,

12 that they all might be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

There is much being said today through various “Christian” groups and teachers about God’s love. I’ve heard it and have read it in various teachings, I’ve read it here as a defense mechanism against my blog as though the fact that God loves nullifies every thing else He has said to us.  I am told that I have no love because I expose the deceiver. I am reminded of God’s love as though I am not aware that it exists. I have been found to be the condemner.

The scripture above states in verse 10 people did not receive the love of the truth that they might be saved. This is what I was told when I first started to question what I had believed, practiced and taught others. I had no love of the truth and so I believed the lie. It was harsh. It was true. There is much more to God than His love.

In verse 9 we are told the coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan with all power, signs and lying wonders. Lying wonders. I believed lying wonders and signs to be the power of God. I believed the power I sensed running through my own hands to be the presence of the Holy Spirit. I could feel what I thought was the presence of angels who came to assist me in the work of the ministry.  These were wonderful moments of revelations, of power and what I thought was true Christianity in what it was created to be.

I had more than my share of dreams and visions, as I was considered to be a seer prophet. What I saw, heard and felt was considered to be important truth and people listened to me, they sought “prophetic” words from me needing my insight and my wisdom.  After all, I knew stuff. I knew things about people that no one else knew. I knew conversations that were going to take place before they did. I knew what I would be receiving as a gift from someone who loved me and I knew what that gift was. When I questioned these “abilities” I was assured that was all the gift of the prophetic. The voice I heard and followed, who we called the Holy Spirit told me all these things. It was an amazing few years of what I perceived as love, of power, of transformation as I was participating in what I believed to be very powerful ministry.

There was just one problem. Just one. I was deceived.

Despite the fact that God loves, He will also send a strong delusion. Those who follow the lie will believe the lie and the end will be their death. This is quite plain in the final 2 verses, yet it is not so popular these days to those who hammer on the love of God. But it is true, If we continue to insist on our way, and follow after the false teachings, false signs and lying wonders, there will be no way of repentance. This is how I believe salvation can be lost. We must follow Christ, we must follow the teachings of His word and refuse to follow the voice of another.

Please read the first few chapters of Genesis.

Genesis 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 “but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat for in that day you eat of it you shall surely die”.

Genesis 3:4 Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die”.

Surely? In Genesis 4:5 Adam, the man later so named, died. What did the serpent, aka Lucifer, Satan say to the woman? He promised her a greater life, he promised her power (v5). They got death. See? It was all a set up by Satan, the deceiver.

The power, signs and lying wonders falsely called acts of The Holy Spirit, are in reality acts of Satan. Many will follow after in great number as time goes by. Why? Because they like them smooth talkin’ words and have believed the lie. This is what we are witnessing these days as we watch our pastors, churches, friends and family swept up into what was coined many years back as “Charismania”. The events of Genesis still take place today. In fact, we are well beyond that as we are seeing a powerful demonic force unleashed upon the earth and the people love it, they believe it and are deceived. Unless they wake up, they will surely die.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A Testimony and the Golden Sword

I am posting a testimony I just received as a comment to the warning against The Vineyard. Following that is a clip of Carol Arnott and her false testimony of the Golden Sword which is mentioned in the testimony. Watch Carol, watch the people. This is the demonic in action.

One day, years ago, while in worship at the Vineyard, I too had a similar vision in which I was given a sword. I hadn’t thought about it in quite some time until I read this man’s words. All these years later and I am still uncovering the false prophetic. Read on you will see what this man has exposed is true. We are subject to who we come under and will become victim and subject to that same demon spirit.

I want to say that I was involved in a Vineyard church for some time. In fact, the very reason that I found this article is my need and desire to understand why I was attacked there. I was wounded badly on all fronts. I began attending a Vineyard church after having been a christian for many years. I knew then as I do now, that God’s word is my final authority for everything.

When someone attends a Vineyard church, ANY Vineyard church, they become subject to the evil or the good that was involved in the inception. Do not be deceived, there is real danger and power in this movement. It is very very dangerous to ANY believer who becomes involved. Light has no fellowship with darkness.

The reason that I was attacked is both good and bad for me. Good in that the reason was not that I was hated but Him who lived both with and in me was hated. It was also bad because it led me down a path of self doubt or doubt that I was even saved for a time. Of course my attack was on many fronts and it was personal, social, even public in one case. There was also an attack that was spiritually so real that I cannot convey it in any words. I have come to the conclusion after too long a time that it was the result of misguided person in leadership who stood behind me during worship with a golden sword that he believed he received through the heresy of the “Golden Sword Prophecy” delivered originally by Carol Arnott in January 1997. (note – this video follows)
Dear Brothers and Sisters, I am only still walking with our Loving creator because of grace. Through this I have found the key to victory has been really forgiving and loving the ones who so harmed me. I want to make sure that I tell everyone who reads this that God’s word is Alive. His name is Jesus. He is our final authority. The friend, the Comforter, The Holy Spirit my friend who sticks closer than a brother, always speaks of Him. The Holy Spirit will never add to the word of God. ALL truth is there for us.

I hope this is helpful for me and someone else. I would like to add one more thing that I noticed while I was involved in the Vineyard. They didn’t like it when I talked about my being fully persuaded that the Blood of Jesus was everything I needed and all I needed.
I noticed that they didn’t discuss the Blood very much at all. For me, my Christian walk can be defined as simply this: Being led by the Holy Spirit, the friend who sticks closer than a brother, into ALL Truth by one thing and only one thing, The Living Shed Blood of Jesus Christ. Peace to you all.

 

 

The New Age Propensities of Bethel Church’s Bill Johnson, John Lanagan

bkt-jl-bth-lgMy friends, John from My Word Like Fire has published the following tract on the relationship between Bethel teachings and the New Age. I was exposed to, and was taught similar ideas from John Paul Jackson. And in and my dealing in the false prophetic I too, was considered a “seer”.

It is widely believed and taught therein, that the works of the occult, the supernatural and psychic power are truly from the Lord. Those who practice these things outside a relationship with the Lord, only have yet to know Him, and that and the church itself has forgotten its true ways. Nothing can be further from the truth. If you have ever heard of Christian prophetic booths set up at fairs and conventions, this is where it comes from.

Thank you John, for a work well done.

Read, and share –

From the Lighthouse BlogNEW BOOKLET TRACT: The New Age Propensities of Bethel Church’s Bill Johnson.