A Look at Dreams and Visions

I wanted to take a closer look at what the bible has to say in the areas of dreams and visions. These experiences have become quite popular over the years with many people  who claim their dreams are from God. Others claim the ability to interpret the dreams and produce many resources and conduct expensive classes to teach the ability to do the same.  Some will go so far as to provide impartations at the conclusion of classes through the laying on of hands so that the attendees will receive the gift of dreams and visions with the ability to interpret same.

I have always been a big dreamer. I dream almost every night and some of those dreams seem to go on for long periods of time. They are filled with all sorts of things, people, some living, some not, places, animals, colors, probably much like you dream. Some dreams are pleasant, some are disturbing and others are full on nightmares. I wake from my dreams sometimes happy, even laughing, sometimes I am crying, other times I have been known to scream out loud. I have times where I wake up in a full on panic attack. See? Nothing so special or different from what anyone else might experience while sleeping, except of course, to those who claim they never dream.

When I became involved in various false teachings I was noted for a gift in prophecy, which spilled over into the area of dreams and visions. It is believed those who are prophetic can also do the same in the night hours or simply while napping. Visions are more known to happen to people while awake, but the bible also mentions night visions. Regardless of these specifics, it is believed God is speaking during those moments. People with this gift are known as seer-prophets. Most organizations place a great deal importance on the prophetic gift and great responsibility on those who are known to operate under them. Many decisions are made based on what is deemed as a prophetic word, dream or vision, and these can steer an entire organization into a specific direction. I learned that oftentimes more emphasis is placed on the prophetic than is on scripture or prayer.

With all of this in mind, we owe it to ourselves and to the Lord to know the truth. I believe what you are about to read is going to have a profound impact in how you view the entire concept of dreams and visions. I believe you will gain a clearer understanding because we are going to God’s word for answers and instruction rather than a person’s claim to have knowledge and mass-produced resources.

Dreams with Clear Messages

In this section I will be using two examples taken from the bible, one from the old testament, and the other from the new testament. Both of these dreams provide the dreamer with a clear understanding of who spoke, the content of the message and the reason for the dream. I am only using enough scripture to make the points I need to in the subject of dreams. I would advise that you carefully read these stories in their entirety.


This dream is commonly referred to as Jacob’s Ladder. Most everyone is somewhat familiar with the visual concept, even those who don’t know much else about the bible. Its familiarity and clear message are reasons why I chose to use it as the first example.

Genesis 28:10And Jacob went out from Beersheba, and went toward Haran. 11And he lighted upon a certain place, and tarried there all night, because the sun was set; and he took of the stones of that place, and put them for his pillows, and lay down in that place to sleep. 12And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it. 13And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I am the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed; 14And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed. 15And, behold, I am with thee, and will keep thee in all places whither thou goest, and will bring thee again into this land; for I will not leave thee, until I have done that which I have spoken to thee of. 16And Jacob awaked out of his sleep, and he said, Surely the LORD is in this place; and I knew it not. 17And he was afraid, and said, How dreadful is this place! this is none other but the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven.

So here we have the amazing story of Jacob who stops for the night during his travels. Just imagine God, the Creator of all things showing Jacob angels moving up and down on a heavenly ladder! And above that ladder stands God proclaiming to Jacob who He is! Can you imagine God speaking to a man this way while he slept on the ground?

Aside from that, notice the words God used were very plain and Jacob understood it was the Lord speaking to him during the night. Jacob understood what was said to him. There is no strange symbolism in this dream, just an easy to understand message from God. In the morning, Jacob is in awe, and rightly so because unquestionably he knew that God spoke to him while he slept.


This is a piece of the story regarding the virgin birth of Christ in which Joseph finds Mary to be pregnant. Joseph knows he is not the father of her baby and who would not doubt such a thing. But before Joseph made the wrong decision and to correct his own thinking, God sent an angel to deliver a very important truth!

Matthew 1:18Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. 19Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. 20But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 21And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. 22Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. 24Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

So again, a very powerful and awesome message is given and yet this time by an angel. The message is clear and understood by the dreamer who follows through with its instruction.

It is quite simple to see from these two examples that God speaks very clearly to His people. I believe clear communication is very important to God and it is important that we, as His people know we can understand Him. Think about that point, though, we are not talking about all people but His people, those who choose to know and follow Him.  The following scriptures refer to calling and salvation, but the language on who hears His voice is made clear.

John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. 4And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of stranger.

John10:27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.

Dreams with Symbols

This next section gets a little tricky as the dreams are more complex. They are full of symbolism involving plants and animals that don’t make any sense to us at all. We have all had these types of dreams when we later woke up wondering what that crazy was all about. Well, the content of these dreams will have the same effect when first presented. But God has His place for crazy.

In these examples God is not speaking to His people, but He is providing dreams so that their imagery can be interpreted by those who have put their faith and trust in Him. The people called to interpret these wild dreams will be put in situations that are dire, making them even desperate for God’s help, creating a need for His answers in ways that most of us have not yet experienced. In addition, He is making His presence known to those who do not follow Him. Once we make the effort to read these stories, their messages and purposes become very clear.


You have probably heard about the boy with the colored jacket, the one whose brothers tossed him down a well. Yes, this is the same guy, Joseph, whose obviously had some pretty hard times.

Joseph finds himself wrongly accused and imprisoned for something he did not do. While in prison he meets up with Pharaoh’s butler and baker who both presented him with their dreams.

Genesis 40:6And Joseph came in unto them in the morning, and looked upon them, and, behold, they were sad. 7And he asked Pharaoh’s officers that were with him in the ward of his lord’s house, saying, Wherefore look ye so sadly to day? 8And they said unto him, We have dreamed a dream, and there is no interpreter of it. And Joseph said unto them, Do not interpretations belong to God? tell me them, I pray you.9And the chief butler told his dream to Joseph, and said to him, In my dream, behold, a vine was before me; 10And in the vine were three branches: and it was as though it budded, and her blossoms shot forth; and the clusters thereof brought forth ripe grapes: 11And Pharaoh’s cup was in my hand: and I took the grapes, and pressed them into Pharaoh’s cup, and I gave the cup into Pharaoh’s hand.

12And Joseph said unto him, This is the interpretation of it: The three branches are three days: 13Yet within three days shall Pharaoh lift up thine head, and restore thee unto thy place: and thou shalt deliver Pharaoh’s cup into his hand, after the former manner when thou wast his butler. 14But think on me when it shall be well with thee, and shew kindness, I pray thee, unto me, and make mention of me unto Pharaoh, and bring me out of this house: 15For indeed I was stolen away out of the land of the Hebrews: and here also have I done nothing that they should put me into the dungeon.

16When the chief baker saw that the interpretation was good, he said unto Joseph, I also was in my dream, and, behold, I had three white baskets on my head: 17And in the uppermost basket there was of all manner of bakemeats for Pharaoh; and the birds did eat them out of the basket upon my head.

18And Joseph answered and said, This is the interpretation thereof: The three baskets are three days: 19Yet within three days shall Pharaoh lift up thy head from off thee, and shall hang thee on a tree; and the birds shall eat thy flesh from off thee.

20And it came to pass the third day, which was Pharaoh’s birthday, that he made a feast unto all his servants: and he lifted up the head of the chief butler and of the chief baker among his servants. 21And he restored the chief butler unto his butlership again; and he gave the cup into Pharaoh’s hand: 22But he hanged the chief baker: as Joseph had interpreted to them. 23Yet did not the chief butler remember Joseph, but forgat him.

Notice in verse 8 where Joseph proclaims interpretations of dreams belong to God. This is an important point to pay attention to. He didn’t claim the ability or the gift to interpret dreams as his own. He didn’t consult with anyone regarding the meaning of the imagery, nor did he let the strangeness of the dreams shake him. Joseph knew the meaning of the dreams because God revealed the message to him and there seemed to be no doubt in Joseph’s mind from the start that God would do that very thing.  The dreams both carried prophetic messages which proved to be true. It worked out well for the butler, but not so much for the poor baker.

Again, Joseph is betrayed and left forgotten and spends another two years in that prison. But the story continues and this time it is Pharaoh who does the dreaming.

41:1And it came to pass at the end of two full years, that Pharaoh dreamed: and, behold, he stood by the river. 2And, behold, there came up out of the river seven well favoured kine and fatfleshed; and they fed in a meadow. 3And, behold, seven other kine came up after them out of the river, ill favoured and leanfleshed; and stood by the other kine upon the brink of the river. 4And the ill favoured and leanfleshed kine did eat up the seven well favoured and fat kine. So Pharaoh awoke.

5And he slept and dreamed the second time: and, behold, seven ears of corn came up upon one stalk, rank and good. 6And, behold, seven thin ears and blasted with the east wind sprung up after them. 7And the seven thin ears devoured the seven rank and full ears. And Pharaoh awoke, and, behold, it was a dream.

8And it came to pass in the morning that his spirit was troubled; and he sent and called for all the magicians of Egypt, and all the wise men thereof: and Pharaoh told them his dream; but there was none that could interpret them unto Pharaoh.

Pharaoh had two consecutive dreams which troubled him. He did not know the meaning of the dreams and so-called his wise men and magicians to help him with the understanding. It must be hard having so much power and importance in a role such as the Pharaoh and yet not know your mind while sleeping! And so these men who were called, with all their gifting could not help him gain the understanding. The meaning of the imagery was kept from even those who were considered most powerful and most wise.

9Then spake the chief butler unto Pharaoh, saying, I do remember my faults this day: 10Pharaoh was wroth with his servants, and put me in ward in the captain of the guard’s house, both me and the chief baker: 11And we dreamed a dream in one night, I and he; we dreamed each man according to the interpretation of his dream. 12And there was there with us a young man, an Hebrew, servant to the captain of the guard; and we told him, and he interpreted to us our dreams; to each man according to his dream he did interpret. 13And it came to pass, as he interpreted to us, so it was; me he restored unto mine office, and him he hanged.

So, enter into the picture forgotten Joseph! And it makes me almost want to cheer for him, after all he has suffered to be called into such an important role and in such a crucial time. Here we will find out why. As I said, I won’t be posting all of the scriptures, just the ones to make clear what is taking place. The previous verses were posted so we can see how the imagery fits into the story and how it is interpreted. From here on I will pick through the story to bring out the points that need to be made and understood for the purpose of our topic.

As we continue to read the story we see in the verses that follow Pharaoh summons Joseph and tells him about the two dreams. In the latter part of verse 24 Pharaoh states

24…and I told this unto the magicians; but there was none that could declare it to me.

To which Joseph immediately responds

25And Joseph said unto Pharaoh, The dream of Pharaoh is one: God hath shewed Pharaoh what he is about to do. 32And for that the dream was doubled unto Pharaoh twice; it is because the thing is established by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass.

Joseph then explains the meaning of the dream which will ultimately prove to be a severe famine. Joseph again provides interpretation without pause and without taking personal gifting for the ability to understand the dream. He makes clear that the dream came from God and the events depicted in the dream will soon take place.

38And Pharaoh said unto his servants, Can we find such a one as this is, a man in whom the Spirit of God is? 39And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, Forasmuch as God hath shewed thee all this, there is none so discreet and wise as thou art:

Pharaoh acknowledged that God had revealed those things to him and found Joseph’s wisdom to be unmatched in the land, even above those previously considered the most wise. God gives us wisdom when we ask.

James 5:1 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

The word discreet in verse 39 also means to discern. How often have you heard someone claim to have the gift of discernment? Here we see it given to mature believers.

Hebrews 5:14But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.


I want to quickly look at the early experiences of Daniel as the examples are similar to that of Joseph. I believe doing this will help to clarify scriptural points. Where there is repetition, there is great importance. Anytime we see something repeat itself, whether it be a story, a theme, or even just a phrase, it is a place to take notice.

In Daniel chapter one we see him as one brought in to serve under the King of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar. He is accompanied by three of his pals, along with others who were descendents and nobles of the king.

17As for these four children, God gave them knowledge and skill in all learning and wisdom: and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams.

20And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king inquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm.

Again we see that God gives knowledge, but here we see also the point made that Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams. And as for our group of the four young men they were found to be wiser than all the magicians and astrologers in the land. God’s power and His gifts will always outdo that of Satan and the occult practices we see in the supernatural. In the same manner, the true gifts of God will out perform any of the false gifts that are prevalent today. Such gifts will gain in power because it has been ordained by God that they must. Many will be deceived during those times and that truth is a reason for this writing.

In chapter two King Nebuchadnezzar has a dream that leaves him quite troubled. He calls for his magicians, astrologers, sorcerers and the Chaldeans, all of the men gifted in the occult to tell of his dream.  But unlike Pharaoh in the previous story, this King wants to be told the dream itself and the interpretation. This is his demand at the threat of death and destruction to their households if they could not, but great gifts with great honor as rewards should any of them know the answer. In verse 10 it is the Chaldeans who claim it’s impossibility –

10The Chaldeans answered before the king, and said, There is not a man upon the earth that can shew the king’s matter: therefore there is no king, lord, nor ruler, that asked such things at any magician, or astrologer, or Chaldean. 11And it is a rare thing that the king requireth, and there is none other that can shew it before the king, except the gods, whose dwelling is not with flesh.

Here is it established from the wisest of the wise this demand from the King is not within a mere mortal’s capability. It simply could not be done. The story continues as the King was quite angry and sent out a decree to kill all of those deemed to be wise. This decree included Daniel and his three companions.

14Then Daniel answered with counsel and wisdom to Arioch the captain of the king’s guard, which was gone forth to slay the wise men of Babylon: 15He answered and said to Arioch the king’s captain, Why is the decree so hasty from the king? Then Arioch made the thing known to Daniel. 16Then Daniel went in, and desired of the king that he would give him time, and that he would shew the king the interpretation.

17Then Daniel went to his house, and made the thing known to Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah, his companions: 18That they would desire mercies of the God of heaven concerning this secret; that Daniel and his fellows should not perish with the rest of the wise men of Babylon.

19Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of heaven.

20Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:

We see here that Daniel went to his friends and prayed that the Lord would give them mercy for this situation. Later in the night, while he slept, Daniel was given the dream and it’s interpretation, for which he later will give God glory. Again we see that God gives wisdom and we are also told he reveals deep and secret things, even those that are impossible to know on our own.

20Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:

21And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

22He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.

23I thank thee, and praise thee, O thou God of my fathers, who hast given me wisdom and might, and hast made known unto me now what we desired of thee: for thou hast now made known unto us the king’s matter.

Daniel reiterates to the King that this dream was given by God and the purpose of the dream was to show the King what was in his own heart.

27Daniel answered in the presence of the king, and said, The secret which the king hath demanded cannot the wise men, the astrologers, the magicians, the soothsayers, shew unto the king; 28But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to the king Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days. Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy bed, are these; 29As for thee, O king, thy thoughts came into thy mind upon thy bed, what should come to pass hereafter: and he that revealeth secrets maketh known to thee what shall come to pass. 30But as for me, this secret is not revealed to me for any wisdom that I have more than any living, but for their sakes that shall make known the interpretation to the king, and that thou mightest know the thoughts of thy heart.

Now, this dream has some very serious implications and meanings, and as Daniel stated are for the latter days and its complete meaning is yet to unfold. I’m not interpreting dreams, only pointing out what the scriptures have to say about them.

After the dream and it’s meaning are explained by Daniel, remember a feat claimed to be impossible for a mere man, we see  an unbelieving King acknowledge God, the revealer of secrets!

47The king answered unto Daniel, and said, Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldest reveal this secret.

Trances with Visions and Imagery Including Angelic Visitation

Some believers claim to go into trance states and have visions. They also claim to receive special messages and direction from God during while in the trances.  I wanted to take a look at an example from scripture and came upon a very interesting and complex story of Cornelius and Peter.  Both of these men were considered devout and given to prayer.

Acts chapter 10 begins with a man called Cornelius who during a time of prayer receives a visit by an angel through a vision. Though afraid,Cornelius immediately recognizes him as a messenger from the Lord and responds accordingly.

3He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius. 4And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God. 5And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter: 6He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do.

It is exciting that the angel addressed him by name, “Cornelius”. The angel gave him instructions on what he and his men were to do and who the men were to ask for, again by name, Simon Peter, and where he would be found. It’s very personal and we shouldn’t be surprised because we are known by name. However, the point that we need to remember here is clarity. Clear instruction.

Continuing, we see Peter enter the story and this is where some odd imagery comes in to play.

9On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour: 10And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, 11And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: 12Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. 13And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. 14But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. 15And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. 16This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

God is speaking to Peter in a vision, while in a trance. Peter sees imagery that is familiar to him and at first misunderstands the meaning of what he is shown. God repeats the message three times, and we remember that repetition means importance. Peter does not fully understand the meaning of all that he has been shown and he doesn’t understand why he is being shown these things. Verse 17 states that he doubted within himself the meaning of the vision. At the same time, God’s plan unfolds, and in verse 19 Peter begins to receive instruction through the Holy Spirit.

19While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.  20Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them.

Just after we see the two men meet according to the instructions that had both been given. Note Peter’s response:

28And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Peter understands the meaning of the vision that had previously not been clear. Because of the wording in verse 19 we know the revelation came from the Lord. There is no other way he could have known.

As the story continues through the rest of chapter 10, and we see God’s purpose for these visions was to bring salvation to the Gentiles. Verse 34 states:

34Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

These stories are truly amazing in their content and have deep meaning when read in their entirety. In them, we see God’s plan unfolding before our very eyes.  I believe communication is very important to God and we see Him offering different methods of communication through these dreams and visions. God makes His plan known to His people. We see God reach out and speak clearly to those who love Him so that they can understand Him.

We see great leaders, Pharaohs and Kings given dreams by God containing bothersome symbolism that they, nor anyone in their courts could understand. Yet God called men, seemingly unimportant to the world, and explained to them the deep hidden secrets implanted in the minds and dreams of those great rulers.  We see God give wisdom and discernment to those who ask. And we seek God make His existence known to others who do not know Him.

All who witnessed these mighty and unmatched acts knew these miracles came from the Most High God.   And they were indeed, miracles, feats with specific purposes of God which cannot be mimicked or dumbed down for the deceitful and selfish, gainful purposes of mere men and women.

We cannot read these stories and still come away thinking we need people to teach us how to understand our own dreams and visions. Or, that we need an impartation to receive the ability to do so.  If and when God speaks to us in a dream or a vision we will know all that we need to because we belong to Him and hear His voice. And if there be any doubt we can rest assured we have the precious word of God to guide us and the Holy Spirit to lead us and to reveal the truth. That’s His job. Anything else is just a lie.

The scriptures are very clear.

 ©M’Kayla Kelly 2015


Paul and the Third Heaven

2nd Corinthians 12:

1Boasting is necessary, though it is not profitable; but I will go on to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a man was caught up to the third heaven. 3And I know how such a man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, God knows— 4was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak. 5On behalf of such a man I will boast; but on my own behalf I will not boast, except in regard to my weaknesses. 6For if I do wish to boast I will not be foolish, for I will be speaking the truth; but I refrain from this, so that no one will credit me with more than he sees in me or hears from me.


If we were to carefully read these words we would come to an easy conclusion that Paul did not speak of things seen in this vision. He did not go on to boast of his great gift, nor that he had the power to manifest such a gift in others by the laying on of hands. He would not be allowed that credit.

Do you see that?

There are so many people today who would have us believe otherwise. And to our shame, such things are allowed to go on. They are believed. They are sought-after. And those who teach such things contrary to scripture are considered prophets. How can a prophet of God speak against the word of God?


Death of a False Prophet, John Paul Jackson Has Passed

The man, John Paul Jackson,who I once took my dream interpretation training from has passed away. The man was a proven false teacher and false prophet, and I am floored and grieved at this news. And unless he repented and found the truth, he stood before God in judgement, without Christ.

Unfortunately, his work in deceiving masses will continue. Please be aware of who you follow and test everything through the perfect teaching of the bible, which will never fail us.


The Truth and The Lie Are Set Up Side by Side

I’ve been writing for several years now, exposing the false signs and wonders of Charismania that has taken over the church. This movement has come from many sources, mine were the International Association of Healing Rooms, heavily influenced by Bill Johnson, Bethel, in Redding, CA, and a long list of names and teachers to go along, including Heidi Baker of Iris Ministries, John Paul Jackson of Streams Ministries. I operated in the false prophetic, laid hands on people, zapping them with strange electrical power that did nothing but knock them (and me) around. I think most of you know my past, so I won’t rehash it just now. It is important that you understand the power was quite real, quite dramatic, and just as all sin is for a time, quite fun. I watched as I felt that presence go from warm and comforting, to electrical and painful, even scary at times.

I have found the greatest doctrinal error in those groups was the misunderstanding of the Holy Spirit and how He operates in the lives of believers and in the lives of unbelievers. He has a very specific part to play and He does not work in the life of a believer in the same way He does an unbeliever. One thing that I will note which is a very important foundational knowledge:

John 16:12“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to


For better clarification and to alleviate misunderstood doctrine regarding the Holy Spirit, please read the words of Jesus as He explains Him to His disciples in John 14, 15, 16. If everyone did that I wouldn’t be writing this article and charsimania would never have existed.

I want you to keep this in mind as you watch the videos that follow. I believe this movie made by Darren Wilson (Finger of God, Father of Lights) will play a large role in further deceiving the masses, first believers and then unbelievers. Darren’s previous movies clearly displayed the false signs and lying wonders of fallen manna and gold teeth mysteriously appearing in the mouths of people. Darren, like many of us, wanted to see more of God – more power, more healings, more miracles and so he opened himself up to the god of charismania. This movie is just another false idea that we need to be in a specific place to receive in truth was freely given for the asking. All of charismania believes there are specific places where God “shows up”. This is not the teaching of the New Testament.

I experienced the power they speak of in this movie attributed to the work of the Holy Spirit. I experience the lying wonders. And though they use His title (just as they use the name of Jesus) they do not know Him, nor do they speak for, or of Him. The power behind this movie is the same power behind Charismania. It is demonic. It is not Jesus.

The few of the people involved in this movie: Michael W Smith, Heidi Baker, Bill Johnson, Randy Clark, Andrew Wommack, Todd White and Kim Walker. Darren has made a plea to the public to get involved too. Word of mouth advertising is most effective. I hope those of us who speak the truth will do the same and get the truth out there.

The following link comes from Charisma –

Holy Ghost Movie

Yes, I am greatly disturbed and grieved. This is probably the hardest article I have written since the beginning of my blog. I have seen things go from bad to worse. People, we cannot have the power of the Holy Spirit without repentance! Bethel and IAHR, and all the rest, believe it is a force that can be passed off from one person to another, by way of impartation. It is not repentance they are after. It is the power.

The following video is a collection on Brian Welch of Korn. Brian is in the Holy Ghost movie and claims to know Christ. He left Korn, formed his own band, then returned to Korn. He pals around with John Crowder; is depicted in the last part of the video with Todd Bentley and Patricia King doing their usual false prophetic thing in telling Brian, like they tell everyone, how great an influence he will be.

I have to warn you this video can get quite graphic but you need to know, the world needs to know who is taking part in the Holy Ghost movie. As for repentance, where is Christ beyond the use of His name? Again, caution in viewing.

This is a more “intimate” video further revealing the euphoric, drunken, even sexual influence of the demon referred to as “jesus”. We are not seeing this for the first time. We  will not find the disciples describe Jesus, the Messiah, in such a way in the pages of the bible.

By now you are seeing many things. An important point that we want to remember is in all of this, is the focus is not put on Christ, it is put on the person – fame and fortune, a bit of word of faith prosperity. Christ calls us to repent and to turn from our sin. We are called out from the world.

I believe there is a reason the music world has been pulled into this deception and I will get into that another time.

You see how the truth and the lie have been set up side by side.

The first release is scheduled for August 9.

Other reads:

It’s All Been a Set Up

Holy Spirit Manifestations






The New Age Propensities of Bethel Church’s Bill Johnson, John Lanagan

bkt-jl-bth-lgMy friends, John from My Word Like Fire has published the following tract on the relationship between Bethel teachings and the New Age. I was exposed to, and was taught similar ideas from John Paul Jackson. And in and my dealing in the false prophetic I too, was considered a “seer”.

It is widely believed and taught therein, that the works of the occult, the supernatural and psychic power are truly from the Lord. Those who practice these things outside a relationship with the Lord, only have yet to know Him, and that and the church itself has forgotten its true ways. Nothing can be further from the truth. If you have ever heard of Christian prophetic booths set up at fairs and conventions, this is where it comes from.

Thank you John, for a work well done.

Read, and share –

From the Lighthouse BlogNEW BOOKLET TRACT: The New Age Propensities of Bethel Church’s Bill Johnson.

Escape the Lie, An Interview

Looky what just “escaped” from the internet:

Escape From Bethel


The website containing my interview is no longer in operation. Just “poof” and it is no longer there, along with the contact e-mail. Not sure if it will be available. Just will wait and see. Sorry all.

Here is the audio of an interview I did this morning exposing the trap and darkness of “Bethel”.

Pass it on.

A former “Seer Prophet” tells her story and helps to expose the false teachings of Bill Johnson, Todd Bentley, John Paul Jackson and others. The Healing Rooms and Word of Faith ministries

It has been brought to my attention that his other site supports AA and 12 Stepping, Celebrate Recovery. I understand these practices to not be of God and I am not condoning or supporting them in any way. I believe Christ is enough. You will find links of supporting information against these programs from My Word Like Fire in the comments section for more info on these topics. It is only my intention, as it has been since the beginning of my blogging days, to support Christianity in it’s true form, as found written in the word of God.

Invisible Friends?

I’ve been intending to do some work on the misguided teachings and ministry of John Paul Jackson. I’ve taken several of his courses and participated in his dream interpretation training. He is quite deceived and one to avoid no matter how many accolades he receives by the charismatics. He is another “one of those” who have very little bible knowledge and loads of so called supernatural experiences. He has a great following who pay him loads of money to learn dream interpretation, numerology and how to have all sorts of supernatural encounters.  He calls himself a Christian and uses the name of Christ in his work, but he is far from a true man of God.

He is one of the original Kansas City Prophets and spent time under the tutelage – if you can call it that –  of John Wimber of the Vineyard, another whose emphasis on the supernatural outweighed the importance of bible study and prayer.

I came on some of his latest teaching, and although I already knew he was in error, I was still shocked at this particular article. You will be too. Why are these maniacs always after the children?

What are invisible friends?

Link here

July 09
by John Paul Jackson


Did you have invisible friends when you were a child — playmates only you could see? Concerned parents occasionally approach me about this topic. What are “invisible friends”? Are they dangerous? Is this a sign of a prophetic gift? <<Prophecy is by the will of the Lord, through the Holy Spirit, not through visitation of an entity.>>What should parents do when their children insist these people are real? Though I am not the final authority on the topic, I do have some ideas based on Scripture and personal experience.

<<He is no biblical authority on the topic, and this type of “personal” experience has no basis for truth, so why would anyone believe him!>>

When it comes to their children having invisible friends, many Christian parents assume the worst. It’s a familiar spirit! It’s a spirit guide! That could very well be true, but remember: For every counterfeit, there is an original.<<The bible doesn’t tell us for every counterfeit, there is an original!>> In other words, there is a strong possibility that when children play with invisible friends, they are really seeing and interacting with angels — and often, they are aware of that.  <<Based on what truth?  There are no examples in the bible that tell us children and angels interact together!>>

What do angels look like?

The Bible says that we won’t always be able to tell the difference between humans and angels:

Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some have unwittingly entertained angels.

— Hebrews 13:2

<<I don’t think the point to “entertain” is for children to have tea parties with them.>>

It would be very difficult for us to “unwittingly” entertain angels if they looked like angels. We would know exactly what they were if they were glowing or had six-foot wingspans. Instead, based on this Scripture, we can assume that sometimes, angels look just like you and me. They may appear to us as painters, mathematicians or doctors; they may look African, Irish or Hispanic. They may even look like children. <<NO! There is nothing in the bible that tells us angels can look like children!>>

<<Here goes either a true account of an encounter with demons or a flat out lie.>>

The night Diane and I brought Micah home from the hospital, I was visited by two angels: a 7-year-old girl and a 10-year-old boy. I didn’t immediately understand they were angels, because they were unlike any angels I had seen before. They began to tell me different things about Micah, and I asked them, “How do you know that?”

“Because we’re angels sent from the throne of God,” they replied.

“You’re not angels,” I said. “I know what angels are like. They’re bigger than you. They’re adult-sized. Some of them are really huge, and some of them are really muscular, and some of them are really fast, and you’re not any of that. You’re just a 7-year-old little girl and a 10-year-old little boy.”

<<Curious that Jackson knows their ages 7 & 10 years, which being the king of numerology, probably has some kind of spiritual (occult) significance. I never realized angels had age. How old is Michael,the arch-angel in the bible, John Paul?? >>

“You haven’t seen everything,” they answered.

“What do you mean?”

“Well, you don’t know that many of us choose to take the form of a child when we are assigned to that child. <<Again, where in scripture? This sounds like that “guardian angel” idea.>> Your children talk to us, because we take a form that doesn’t threaten them but allows them to become what God created them to become. <<This is a strange comment, but is he is saying that these so called angels have a place in our children’s growth?>>We’re here to help them, not to prove we’re anything. <<Angels are messengers of  God, so what is the message for the children? When did a child ever have a visit from an angel in the bible? God deals with adults, not children. Of course they can have a relationship with Him, through Jesus as we all can. But, He does not send angels to communicate with our kids!>>Here’s another one of us now!”  <<Oh goody!>>

A little boy approached, and the girl said, “Tell him what’s going on.”

“I was there,” the second boy told me. “I saw them up in the throne room, and I saw God giving them the assignment to watch over your son Micah. What they tell you, you need to do, because I saw God giving them the command.” <<How convenient to have the word of another lying demon to make it look so true!  Yes, angels have spoken to people in the bible. But, why, if we have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit would we need to converse or get directions from an angel? This doesn’t work for me!

It is very possible Jackson has these wild encounters, however, there is nothing in this story to prove this is a visitation from angels of the Most High God! Check the word! Angels never appear as children – never. All encounters should be proved by the bible, otherwise they are false, demonic!>>

What should parents do?

As time progresses, I think we will discover again and again that we “haven’t seen everything” yet. <<Yes, because in John Paul Jackson’s world, anything goes!>>In the meantime, if your children are playing with invisible friends, talk to them about it. >>Talk with them? Yes, but PRAY with them and take authority over the enemy because God does not send angels to talk with children! So, if your child has a true imaginary friend, you can be sure in the knowledge that it is not a good thing!>> Find out how they feel when they’re playing with them. Do they feel happy? Peaceful? Scared? <<Not good advice – emotions cannot be trusted and satan  can bring false peace, joy, etc!>>If your children show any hesitancy, rephrase your questions and ask again. In most cases, their answers will reveal to you exactly who sent these invisible playmates.

Remember that in biblical times, it was common knowledge that angels sometimes take the visage of the people they protect; <<When?>>why else would the Christians meeting in Mary’s house have thought it was Peter’s angel at the door (Acts 12:12–15)? >>That’s a long shot! They thought Peter was dead and they were astonished (v16). This does not prove his claims!>>I remember being a child and talking to angels who looked like my friends, but I knew they were angels. <<As a child he knew? How? He didn’t know, he was wrong then and he is wrong now!>>They told me what they were, but I also just knew. Your children will likely “just know” as well.

Be open to the possibility that God is communicating to your children via people, objects or animals (remember Balaam’s donkey) only they can see. <<I had to laugh out loud on this one – Balaam’s donkey??  If God is communicating with your child, He will do it the same way that He communicates with you. >>If you raise your children in the way God has set before them, <<If you raise your children to know the bible for themselves they will be better protected against claims and teachings of false prophets like this man!  On the other hand, if you are under the teaching of John Paul Jackson, don’t be surprised when you children really are visited by these demons. Get away!>>they will see and know things that are humanly impossible for them to see and know. They will be able to interact with Heaven, as God intended all of us to do. They will have eyes to see.  <<We know things through the power and presence of the Holy Spirit through treading and studying the bible and prayer, “mundane” things these false prophets and teachers cannot be bothered with, not experiences in the supernatural.

John Paul Jackson has the mistaken belief that because supernatural occurrences happened to people in the bible they should be happening to all believers and that it is the believer’s “right” to –  as he said – interact with Heaven. God always had a reason for these supernatural experiences to happen. They were done for His purposes, to accomplish His plan, with the focus pointing right back to Him. They were not for the purpose of man, nor at the will of man, nor to bring focus to the man. Angels had nothing of themselves, either. They always reflect God’s message and purpose.

John Paul believes we can have these encounters at our will.  He believes he encounters the same Heaven and the very Throne Room where God resides and goes there to “hang out”. Then, he comes back to earth, so to speak, with these wild stories made into teaching products. Who is to say if his encounters really take place. One thing we can be sure of, they are not of God, and so any visits to a throne room is the wrong throne.

If we were intended to have supernatural experiences, if God truly intended for that to happen, then they would. Man was created to be on earth.

Remember, all prophets, angelic visitations and supernatural experiences should point right back to God. Where do these encounters point to? John Paul Jackson’s son Micah, and the beings, not God.  Big difference!

Another pied piper leading the sheep to hell. >>

Crying Wolf! Savage Wolf!

Acts 20: 28-31

28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

29 For know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock.

30 Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves.

31 Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.

Apparently Paul took the work of warning others so seriously that he did so continuously and with tears!

Look!  Again he warns and calls them out by name! 2 Timothy 2:17-18 And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, 18 who have strayed concerning the truth…

Again!  2 Timothy 4:14-15  Alexander the coppersmith did me much harm.  May the Lord repay him according to his works. 15 You also must beware of him, for he has greatly resisted our words.

Why did he name these people?  To protect the church!  YOU!  ME!  Because their lying message spreads like CANCER. And so true!   Cancer kills!

1 Timothy 6:5 …men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.

That means get away from them.

2 John 8-11  Look to yourselves, that we do not lose the things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward. 9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the son.10 If anyone comes to you, and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him, 11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.

I believe this is otherwise known as guilt by association.

Remember when Jesus said to remove the beam out of your own eye so that you can clearly see to remove the splinter from your brothers’?  I came out of this stuff. Been there done that and God – in his great mercy and kindness delivered me from these savage wolves. Now that I see clearly I want to better expose those who have put the proverbial splinter in yours. So, as I hand you the tweezers, you must be willing to PULL!

I understand that many of those who cry out “judge not” in my direction don’t have an understanding of the word and rely on others to teach them and so usually fall into the wrong hands or –  “paws”.   These are the ones who have been told by the savage wolf and savage wolf supporters that God is powerful and he can do anything, and therefore anything can happen and to just go along with whatever transpires. Out goes any discernment until they are so duped they will believe and follow anything.

These who have chosen to protect and defend, obviously to their own spiritual deaths, their savage wolf teachers rather than stand for the God  whom they call “Lord”, the one who died for them.  These who would rather download the savage wolf’s latest teaching via webcast, podcast, cd or book to “get what they need for the moment” instead of trusting the teaching of the Holy Spirit through the bible, the method designed by God.  This should not be.

To these I say to check your bible for all the warnings given by the original disciples and apostles.  Check your bible to see what will happen to your salvation if you follow after false teachers.  Check  your bible to find out what will happen to you for all eternity in following other gods. Because these false teachers, prophets, apostles, evangelists, and revivalists lead us exactly there.  They are all liars, not led of God, but led by their own fleshy desires for power, fame and cash and, just like it says above in Acts 20:30 – speaking perverse things to draw you away!  And we know that all liars, idolaters, and the abominable are put in the lake of fire – Revelation 21:8 – read it!

Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 2 Timothy 2:19b

Supernatural Encounters

Supernatural Encounters

God is supernatural and many unexplained supernatural events can occur. But we have become out of focus with “God can do anything”, and too much emphasis on the supernatural occurrences and an excess of angelic visitation, supernatural experiences and dreams and visions.  Even the great prophets and disciples in the bible didn’t have THAT many. God never violates His own character or His word.

In the bible, every supernatural occurrence had a reason and an outcome. Current false teaching is just the opposite with those false teachers and prophets claiming trips to heaven and out of body experiences for no reason other than to just hang out and have a good time.  They claim it is their “right” as a child of God. Really?  I wasn’t aware we had rights to anything.

Ezekiel was not taken up in the spirit to “hang out”.  He was called as a prophet to warn fallen Israel of their sin and the consequences and to repent!  That is a true function of a prophet, to speak the word of God. Tongues of fire in Acts led to a great many salvations and the gospel of Jesus was preached throughout the land, many were healed and delivered and the church grew at an alarming rate – a true sign and wonder!

God spoke to His people in dreams and visions and they either immediately understood or He revealed the message to them.  In the Old Testament, God mostly spoke to people in their dreams like a one way conversation. There was no need for an interpreter.  Daniel interpreted dreams for a pagan King Nebuchadnezzar so the King would acknowledge God.  How much more now can we understand of our own dreams and visions from God that we have been filled with the Holy Spirit?  Peter did not understand his symbolic dream and the Lord immediately explained it to him.

Likewise, angels are messengers of God.  They do not bring gifts or healings or even revival, nor do they perform spiritual surgical operations on people. They do not drop their feathers to prove they are around.  The bible tells us they are, so why do they need to prove it? Angels worship God and do not bring attention to themselves and warn others to not do the same. Angels who forgot their place were kicked out of heaven! Biblical signs and wonders are salvations, healings, deliverances, things that God is interested in.  Much different than those that claim otherwise with gold dust, gems and oil!  Remember, revivals are about repentance, not fleshy signs and wonders.

Galatians 1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

Beware of all teaching supporting “experienced based theology” in which much importance is placed on experiencing His presence and His voice and other supernatural experiences above all else, including the importance of bible study. Watch out for meditative (lecto divina) and contemplative/emergent/mystical spirituality, centering prayer methods or methods of “the ancient fathers” and Catholic mystics which were not taught anywhere in the bible or by Jesus or practiced by His disciples. These are not new but are moving in as accepted practices in our churches as methods of becoming closer to God.  These teachings are about achieving a mind set with “god” and higher spiritual planes or levels.  These are not methods of our Lord and have roots in Hinduism, Buddhism, Catholicism and the occult.

Also beware of “inner healing” methods used in theophostics and sozo which were first taught and used by New Age practitioners and secular therapists through  guided imagery and visualization techniques. I know this because I used these methods for several years before I came to Christ!   All these so called Christian ministries have done is attached the name of Jesus added with it some scriptural truths and packaged it all up as “God’s”.  Nonsense!  Just because a “jesus” shows up in these sessions does not mean it is the true Jesus! And, Jesus never discussed or prayed “inner healing” with anyone. Even though there is a “level of truth” in these methods does not make it holy and acceptable before God. For more on this topic see my article here – Inner Healing.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.

Beware of teachers and prophets who really like to quote the Old Testament to back up their weird teachings and supernatural experiences.  One scripture does not a doctrine make, no matter how convincing the teacher! Numerology is of the occult.  There is no instance in the bible that God speaks to His people through the use of numbers. Watch for stories of portals, throne room and third heaven experiences and other various things false teachers and prophets are trying to teach us of late.

Something is very wrong when Christians are encouraged and taught to practice that which the pagans, occultists and new agers do. Some believe since the pagans already do these things, Christians need to catch up because it is our heritage!! It is not!  God created men and women to be on the earth, not out of it.

Deuteronomy 29:29  The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but those things which are revealed belong to us and our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.

There is a fine line in what we are allowed to know.  God is only going to reveal Himself and the spiritual realm to a degree.  He is the One who decides and has established how far we can go. Once we dare to cross that fine line, once we go to God and make demands to see and to know, as many now claim that we can, such things considered as Gnostic, we have opened ourselves up to occultic experiences masquerading as Godly ones.  I believe Satan often shows up in these moments and is very happy to play his charade as an angel masquerading in light.

1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons.

Their message must also prove over and again that Jesus, the Christ, the Messiah, son of the living God is indeed Lord and has come in the flesh.  They must speak of the gospel of the Lord and His salvation and of sin and true repentance. This is the very reason Jesus died and the essence of the great commission!  Their message must stir others to a greater love of God and of His Word and the love of His people.  If this is not so, if the message they bring creates a need for “self”, my gifts, my worship, my feelings, my healing, etc. then the messenger is not of God.

Long gone is the care for the truth of Christ and the simplicity of the gospel message. There are so many deceived, operating in false signs and wonders who are too prideful or stubborn to look at the word of God to see the truth.  Others claim these signs and wonders simply for the attention, fame and cold hard cash they provide.  Who needs to work when manipulation of the desperate is a well honed talent?  How long will the Lord relent and when will be the moment for them when it is too late to turn back?