Movies that Imitate Christianity, Blogtalk – Susan Puzio

I just had another blogtalk with Susan Puzio addressing some of the things I had previously been involved with. We also looked at the NRB Proclaim 16 conference that went on this past week, the speakers and contributors and the movies that are being released.

I see there is a mix of Christianity, Catholicism with influences of other beliefs, most of which will not be backed up in scripture. Have a listen, watch the movie trailers linked at Proclaim 16 on the footer that I spoke of and use the information to help others avoid these pitfalls. With all the information we have available it is easy to connect the dots. By using our bible as reference it is just as easy to recognize false doctrine coming from these movies.

We need to rid ourselves of emotions and think clearly and soberly at these deceptions which will grow stronger and more convincing as time goes on. There is a real coming together of religions forming as one. The media, entertainment sectors of our society, as well as our government are helping it take shape. Many are blind and need help to see.

Movies that imitate real Christianity

References:

NRB “Mission Statement”

Proclaim 16 

Building the Sphere of Media Influence

Media Sphere Promotes Another False Jesus

Seth Dunn’s Review of War Room Movie

Seven Mountains Defined (not condoning the prophetic voice of C Jacobs)

Roots of Seven Mountains

Healing Room Beliefs

Grave Sucking Bethel

 

(Correction – During our chat I stated that Jesus warned us that many would come in His name and deceive as located in Matthew 18. That would be Matthew 24! oops!)

Olympic Ceremonies

Not long ago, I had a conversation with some other people regarding the opening ceremony of the Olympic games. Not being a fan, I didn’t watch it on TV but became quite concerned after seeing bits and pieces of it on the internet. 

After a good search and a plea for assistance we found there was no stream available to be watched.  Yeah, we can stream The Closer, but not the opening ceremony of the oh-so-important Olympic competition the masses flock to be a part of. Hmm…

I was able to see some of the still photos on the web along segments of home video. The symbolism was quite shocking, dark and sinister, but no relation at will with the games, or the athletes. Don’t you find that strange?

A much trusted researcher, whose knowledge and insight I am thankful for, has taken the time to put it all together. You will see these ceremonies have nothing to do with “the games” at all. I find that quite odd and quite disturbing.

So what is that message?

An in-depth look at the symbolism behind the Olympic Ceremonies

And as a side note, and because I think there is a very strong connection, we should also consider the symbolism presented during the 2012 Superbowl halftime show.

Are we entertained yet?

America’s Pastor, and Another Move for One World Religion

Nearly 4 years ago, Rick Warren posed  – yes – posed the inaugural prayer for Obama. At the end of his words he stated “in the name of Isa”. Is there NOW any wonder left for us as to why he said such a thing, being famed as “America’s Pastor”? 

One world religion, anyone?

Adding a new article to this listing found here – Rick Warren and…

Warren openly attempts to unite Christians and Muslims –

The Rev. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest and one of America’s most influential Christian leaders, has embarked on an effort to heal divisions between evangelical Christians and Muslims by partnering with Southern California mosques and proposing a set of theological principles that includes acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.  read more

The Theosophical Road to Babel

The Theosophical Road to Babel

by Closing Stages

28 Jan

Many Christians have been deluded into believing that they can somehow “change or convert” the kingdoms of this world into the Kingdom of God. In the process they have put their energies and hopes into bringing about the Kingdom of God by working towards getting more influence with government in order to transform government. Some even believe that Jesus will only return once we have transformed the world and created the millennial Kingdom.

This presupposes that the Kingdom of God is a better version of or improved earthly kingdom. But what does the Bible have to say about this?

In the study of Hermeneutics there are many principles to aid the student of Scripture, in the endeavor to discover truth. One such principle is called the first occurrence principle. The first mention of a subject in the Bible is often very significant for an understanding of that topic. Then following this topic through Scripture, a thread is often revealed and built upon until the last occurrence is mentioned providing a complete picture and comprehensive understanding of the topic in view.

The first mention of the word “kingdom” is in Genesis 10:10 when it says of Nimrod that “the beginning of his kingdom was Babel.” It was at Babel that the tower was built with the intention of reaching Heaven and that to this day remains the prime example of man’s pride, self-sufficiency and rebellion against God. Babel was the precursor and type of Babylon, the false world system and religion, which is the domain of the Antichrist (Revelation 17 & 18). It was at Babel that God brought division between the nations and broke their rebellious unity.

Furthermore it is remarkable and significant that the last time the word “kingdom” is mentioned is in Revelation 17:17 where it says that the world rulers will “be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast.” This will bring the world full-circle where they once again are united against God and once again establish Babel/Babylon.

The fact that the first and last mention of the word “kingdom” both relate to the false world system which is united in its rejection of God and that both speak of that which is man-made with an emphasis on man rather than God is not coincidental. By definition any kingdom built by man is anti-god and anti-Christ. The kingdoms of this world have never been, are not and never will be God’s Kingdom. They have different kings, different citizens, function by different principles and laws and have different goals.

When Satan tempted Jesus he “showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.” (Luke 4:5-6). Jesus did not deny that this was in the Devil’s power to do and thus He acknowledges that the kingdoms of the world do indeed belong to the Devil. There are many theories as to how and when the Devil acquired them, but the fact remains that they are his to give. Several times Jesus refers to the Devil as “the ruler of this world” John 12:31, 14:30, 16:11), confirming Satan’s dominion here on earth.

Many Christians feel that things changed after the Cross and that the Kingdoms of the world are now under God’s control. But Paul (after the Cross) still refers to Satan as “the god of this world (age)” (2Corinthinas 4:4). John (also after the Cross) states emphatically that “the whole world lies under the sway (NIV – “control”) of the wicked one” (1John 5:19). Thus the Devil is clearly the one who is in control of the world kingdomes, its systems, its religions, and its governments. Romans 13 says that authorities are appointed by God and that they are God’s servants or ministers. This does not mean that they are godly, they clearly are not. Nevertheless God uses them to accomplish His purposes (Revelation 17:17).

At no stage do the kingdoms of the world morph into the Kingdom of God. There is not a single Scripture to support this popular misconception. The kingdoms of this world are so evil that they are completely destroyed (Daniel 2 and Revelation 18) and they will be replaced by God’s Kingdom. This will be a work of God and not of man or the church. “The God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever” (Daniel 2:44). (See also Revelation 18 and 19). Christ’s Kingdom will ultimately become a physical kingdom, known as the Millennial Kingdom, but as said above, that will come about by a single cataclysmic (Day of the Lord’s Wrath) event when He sets up His Kingdom.1

In Revelation 11:15 when the seventh trumpet is sounded it alludes to the kingdoms of this world becoming or morphing into the Kingdom of Christ. “Then the seventh angel sounded; And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, ‘The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!’” The Greek Word for “have become” is ginomai and means, “to come into existence, begin to be, receive being.” The seventh trumpet presents the consummation of God’s reign and the end of all world Government, the end of Satan’s authority over the earthly kingdoms, and the end of Antichrist’s 1230 day reign as Christ is now King over one single Kingdom. It is the seventh trumpet which ends the 70th Week of Daniel and the final bowl judgments are instituted within the extended 30 day period given in Daniel 12.

IN THE BEGINNING

In the Garden of Eden, when the serpent spoke to Eve concerning the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he told Eve, “You will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil” (Gen. 3:4-5) (emphasis mine.) Driven out of the Garden, Adam and Eve had plunged mankind into spiritual darkness, separation from God, and with it man now had an unquenchable hunger for power and an insatiable thirst for godhood. Looking at Babel, under the leadership of Nimrod, a global community was formed as “the whole earth had one language and one speech” (Gen. 11:1). The appeal to personal power and recognition is seen in the building of a tower “whose top is in the heavens (vs.4).” Man sought to make a name for themselves and thus, make a statement, we can rule ourselves absent of God.

THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT (New Age)

societa_teosoficaLate in the 19th century there appeared the arousal of spiritualism known as Theosophy. It is believed by some that Theosophy, having Pagan origin, is the revival of a philosophy communicated by the Nephilim of old (See Gen. 6). Theosophy is any of various forms of philosophical or religious thought based on a mystical insight into the divine nature and is the system of belief and practice of the Theosophical Society. Though they deny the existence of any personal God, their views and doctrine express an intuitive insight into the divine nature. Today we call this movement the New Age Movement, however, it’s foundation rest upon the teachings of Madame Helena Blavatsky, founder of the Theosophical Society. Blavatsky was heavily influenced by and involved in the supernatural and mythological.

The word “theosophia” appeared in both Greek and Latin in the works of the early church fathers as a synonym for theology. The theosophoi are “those who know divine matters.” During the Renaissance of the 12th century, use of this term converged into a gnostic knowledge that offers the individual enlightenment and salvation through a knowledge of the bonds that are believed to unite him to the world of divine or intermediary spirits, or Ascended Masters, as the theosophical society likes to call them.2

Through the use of intellect, mystical enlightenment, and by the teachings of the intermediary spirits, man will conqueror the earth and will himself become God. It is taught in every Masonic temple, every secret society, every secret brotherhood, every mystical temple, and every occult organization teaches the luciferian doctrine inspired by the ancient Egyptian mythology, Roman mythology, Greek mythology, Gnosticism and Western occultism.

The world rulers will “be of one mind, and give their kingdom to the beast” (Revelation 17:17), will again bring the world full-circle where they once again are united against God and once again establish Babel/Babylon.

Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour…and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world

1 John 2:18; 4:3

Madame Helena BlavatskyThe Theosophical Society revived and codified the concept of the New World Order and today all New Age thought and doctrine is cradled in the early teachings of Madame Helena Blavatsky (ISIS UNVIELED 1877; A Magazine which she started in 1887 called “LUCIFER”; her principle work “THE SECRET DOCTRINE” was published in 1888; she also wrote “THE KEY TO THEOSOPHY” and “THE VOICE OF SILENCE”) It is said that her book “The Secret Doctrine” was channeled to her through an ascended master or highly evolved being. Though it is masked in secret societies, these teachings are openly advanced through political and religious institutions.

The World View

The New Age World view has many components such as astrological and zodiacal beliefs, channeling higher powers to achieve knowledge, contemplative meditation, the belief that all is one, and all forms of monism, the belief that we can obtain godhood, esotericism/re-interpreting ancient texts to find hidden meanings and unify all religious belief into one, and the belief we need a one world system for the coming age. Today it has become a political agenda to create a one world system, one world government, one world economy, the unity of humanity, control over humanity and the submission of the masses to the elite. Theosophy, Freemasonry, and Marxism are all connected with the New Age Movement. In fact, Freemasonry viewed doctrinally, is Theosophy3.

The Coming World Messiah

Maitrea 2Many perpetrators of the New Age Movement have authored the coming of a world Messiah. Scott Nearing made a call in 1947 to shift society from nationalism to worldism asserting “The world man is here. His coming has been heralded through the ages by far-seeing individuals who felt and dreamed and thought in terms of human solidarity.4 The “World Teacher,” an advanced spiritual entity and high-ranking member of a hidden Spiritual Hierarchy, the so-called “Masters of the Ancient Wisdom” is also proclaimed to appear on the world scene. According to Theosophical doctrine, one of the hierarch’s functions is to oversee the evolution of Humankind. In accordance with this function, the (Maitrea) is said to hold the so-called Office of the World Teacher. Theosophical texts hypothesize that the purpose of this office is to facilitate the transfer of knowledge about the true constitution and workings of existence. Reputedly, one way the knowledge transfer is accomplished is by Mailtrea’s occasionally manifesting or incarnating in the physical realm; the manifested entity then assumes the role of World Teacher of Humankind. The Messianic Maitrea is linked to both Buddhist and Hindu religious traditions.

Human evolution then, is overseen by a hidden spiritual hierarchy, whose upper echelons consist of advanced spiritual beings. In addition to the stated objectives, as early as 1889 Helena Blavatsky publicly declared that the purpose of establishing the Society was to prepare humanity for the reception of the World Teacher. Another prominent Theosophist was Alice Bailey, she convinced New Agers that humanity needs to make a one world Government and one world Religion. She then taught the religion of Theosophy and speaking on the spiritual war between esotericism and the people who refuse to accept the new age, she stated:

“…it will be fought largely with mental weapons and in the world of thought; it will involve the emotional realm, from the standpoint of idealistic fanaticism. This inherent fanaticism will fight against the appearance of the coming world religion and the spread of esotericism…It must not be forgotten that only those souls who are on the Probationary Path or the Path of Discipleship will form the nucleus of the coming world religion…There is no question therefore that the work to be done in familiarizing the general public with the nature of the Mysteries is of paramount importance at this time…When the Great One comes with His disciples and initiates we shall have the restoration of the Mysteries and their exoteric presentation, as a consequence of the first initiation.”5 (Emphasis Mine)

The plan of freemissionary and the theosophical society is to abolish Christianity and infiltrate World governments in its agenda to create a new world order of a united humanity with a single global authority. The express aim of the Illuminati, Freemasons, and Theolosophical Society Orders is to eliminate Christianity, and overturn all civil government.

“But the future is now and the maneuvers are being unveiled. Christianity therefore as I say must either now come frankly forward and acknowledge it’s parentage from the great order of the past, seek to rehabilitate that and carry mankind one step forward in the path of evolution – or else it must perish, there is no alternative.”6 Acharya S.

“…people will either change or die,” for “that is the choice.” According to those who would concur with Hubbard, Christians will need to be more open minded so they too can receive the mark of the Antichrist. If they will not join with the global community and its agenda, they will be killed by the “opened minded” New Agers. She states that, “This act is as horrible as killing a cancer cell. It must be done (or the sake of the future of the whole. So be it; be prepared for the selection process which is now beginning. We, the elders, have been patiently waiting until the very last moment before the quantum transformation, to take action to cut out this corrupted and corrupting element in the body of humanity. It is like watching a cancer grow; something must be done before the whole body is destroyed…. The destructive one fourth must be eliminated from the social body.” 7 Barbara Marx Hubbard

New Age writer John Dunphy claims the New Age is replacing the “rotting corpse of Christianity, together with all its adjacent evils and misery.” New Age writer Foster Bailey has taught that those who do not live up to “New Age standards,” will end up “irreconcilable outcasts.”8

“Out of the full spectrum of human personality, one-forth is electing to transcend…One-forth is resistant to election. They are unattracted by life ever-evolving. Now, as we approach the quantum shift from creature-human to co-creative human the destructive one-forth must be eliminated from the social body…Fortunately you, dearly beloveds, are not responsible for this act. We are. We are in charge of God’s selection process for planet Earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death.”9 Barbara Marx Hubbard (Emphasis Mine)

Interesting is the use of the fraction “one-forth” and the use of the term “The pale horse, Death” used by Barbara Marx Hubbard. It may interest you to know just how remarkably accurate she is as this is exactly what Scripture describes as the Great Tribulation spoken of by the Lord Jesus Christ in Matthew 24:21 and meticulously recorded by the Apostle John in Revelation 6:7-8.

“When He opened the forth seal, I heard the voice of the forth living creature saying, “Come and see.” So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a forth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.” (Emphasis Mine)

G.H. Pember in his book “Earth’s Earliest Ages” devoted an entire chapter on Theosophy, and the Doctrines and ambitions of the Theosophical Society. Even during the Societies formative years their growth and organization was such that it drew the attention of men such as Pember who devoted his entire adult life to the study of the Antediluvian age, it’s mysteries, and it’s reemergence upon the world in the last days.

Pember states:

thumbnail.aspxThe objects of the Society were then set forth as follows.

1. To form the nucleus of a Universal Brotherhood of Humanity.

2. To study Aryan literature, religion, and science.

3. To vindicate the importance of this inquiry.

4 To explore the hidden mysteries of Nature, and the latent powers of man.

Subsequently a fifth object of the Society, the destruction of Christianity, was revealed.

Pember later says, “It will, therefore, be seen that this foe has made a formal declaration of war.” This war at the beginning was not the genocide of Christians spoken of by the more recent New Age authors such as Barbara Marx Hubbard, Acharya S., and Alice Bailey. In the beginning they sought to infiltrate and corrupt Christianity.

Pember writes: “By the autumn of 1883 there were already seventy branches of the Society in India, and many thousands of Mahomedans, Buddhists, Hindus, Parsees, Christians, officials and non officials, governors and governed, have been brought together by its instrumentality.” Pember went on to say, “The Perfect Way, or the Finding of Christ, and its anonymous writers, for they claim inspiration, and decline to be styled authors, certainly display considerable ability; though in the case of the Hebrew and Greek Scriptures they exhibit a knowledge far less accurate than that which they claim in regard to the doctrines of the Mysteries. Sometimes also, to suit their purpose, they give strange meanings to words, without condescending to hint at the process by which they reached their conclusion.”

It appears, their attempts to corrupt Christianity were mildly successful as over the next 125 years to this present time the New Age Movement has sought to subdue Christian Orthodoxy with false doctrine. Presently, their efforts over the last Century have paid off, with the birth of Contemplative Christianity, Mysticism, pantheism and Ecumenicalism. As Pember said of his time, and so true today: “Christians who take the trouble to reconnoiter (investigate) in the darkening twilight are well aware that hostile forces are converging from various quarters, but with unmistakable concert, upon their camp; while that camp itself is, alas! becoming thinned by the almost daily desertions of those who cease to believe in the Bible as the only revelation from God, and in the Lord Jesus Christ as the One Christ and Savior.”10

It becomes clear that the “one forth” who must be eliminated from the social body, as Barbara Marx Hubbard alleged, are those faithful Believers who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ (Rev. 1:2, 12:11,17; 14:12).

1 Two Kingdoms by Pastor Anton Bosch; Revised by Michael Rogers.

2 Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophy

3 Wm. C. Irvine; Heresies Exposed.

4 Scott Nearing; “United World” Island Press, 1945, p.35

5 Alice Bailey, The Externalization of the Hierarchy, [Lucis Publishing, 2nd edition (June 1983)] p. 453, 511, 513, 514

6 Acharya S. “The Christ conspiracy, the greatest story ever sold”, [Adventures Unlimited Press, 1999]. [p. 416, 417]

7 Barbara Marx Hubbard; blessedhopechapel.org; The Coming Persecution

8 blessedhopechapel.org; The Coming Persecution.

9 Barbara Marx Hubbard; The Book of Co-Creation [1980 edition] p.59

10 G.H. Pember; Earth’s Earliest Ages; published 1876 by Hodder and Stoughton. Chapter 13, Theosophy.

Halal Meat Warning – Eat Pork!

Got this in my e-mail –

READ EVERYTHING ON THE MEAT PACKAGE BEFORE YOU BUY MEAT

Halal Meat in US Supermarkets

THIS IS COMING AND LOOK OUT FOR THIS INTRUSION IN OUR U.S. MARKET..

“The other day I wrote about Costco stocking their meat counters with “Halal” meat.”


So yesterday I shopped for groceries at my local Walmart. As usual, I bought a bag of frozen chicken breasts, but this time I checked to make sure the meat was not labeled “Halal.” Here’s why.

Halal is the Islamic term that basically means the meat is lawful to eat for a devout Muslim. What makes it lawful or acceptable is that the meat has been processed in a very specific way. Unlike kosher food, where the physical processing of the meat is the focus, for Islam it is the spiritual component that makes the meat lawful.

For lawful (halal) meat in Islam, the animal must be killed while the butcher faces Mecca, and either the butcher cries “Allah Akbar” or a tape plays the words over a loud speaker.

Allah is greater…

I think not! Sounds a little like food sacrificed to an idol/other god, huh?

Ann Barnhardt, is a cattle commodities broker, has more about “Halal.”

NEVER buy meat that is marked as “Halal.”

I am in the cattle business, and believe me when I tell you that Halal kill plants are CONSTANTLY being cited and shut down by the USDA for horrific, infractions. Most of these plants are in Michigan and upstate New York .

One of the things that halal kill plants are notorious for is putting already-dead animals in the human consumption line. They will go pick up a dead cow off of a farm or ranch and instead of putting it in their rendering tank where the resulting “tankage” is worth pennies on the dollar as pet food or industrial products, they will shackle the dead animal on the normal kill line and process it as human food which is the highest-dollar product.

Since Islam teaches dishonesty (taqiyyah) and no regard for one’s neighbor, this kind of sickening behavior is standard.

Halal plants are also notorious for general citations for filth and uncleanliness. I have toured normal cattle slaughter plants, and guys, you could eat off of the floor. Everything is white and men walk around with water hoses and steam guns constantly keeping everything in a state of spotlessness.

Halal plants are filthy. A lot of Halal meat is also labeled as “organic.”

Again, don’t be fooled into thinking that “halal” means “better.” It isn’t. I would never, ever knowingly eat halal meat purely from a food safety perspective.
I like pork – a lot! 🙂 

Comment from Tricia Tillin added –

Here in the UK it’s a lost cause. They have brought in halal everywhere by stealth, without asking us. The prevailing attitude here is “we can never offend the Muslims” and everything in society from public Christmas decorations to street signs, TV advertising, theatre productions – just every section of society is geared to humbling ourselves to Islam. Not only is almost all meat halal, but UK food has changed in restaurants and supermarkets so that you have to hunt for anything non-spicy or traditionally British. The stupid thing is, if you ask UK Muslims they say “we are NOT offended” and this is just political correctness gone mad. But as far as halal meat, we all have to get used to the idea that it WILL become universal, especially as immigration spirals out of control. That is the least of our worries as some cities have already begun to impose Sharia Law, and the Muslims already have their own Parliament and Banking system! Don’t get me wrong, I’m not racist and I don’t “hate Muslims” or anybody else. I just feel that as an Englishwoman and a Christian I also have rights. MY views and my vote should count too!

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http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm256439.htm

Undeclared Eggs in “Halal Plain” & “Halal Fruit Cake”

 

Contact:
Consumer:
718-287-8494

Media:
Jessica Ziehm
518-457-3136
jessica.ziehm@agmkt.state.ny.us

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – May 20, 2011 – New York State Agriculture Commissioner Darrel J. Aubertine today alerted consumers to undeclared eggs in “Halal Plain Cake” and “Halal Fruit Cake”, packaged and distributed by Narala Bakery Inc. of 744 Coney Island Avenue, Brooklyn, New York. People who have severe sensitivity to eggs may run the risk of serious or life-threatening reactions if they consume this product.

The recalled “Halal Plain Cake” and “Halal Fruit Cake” are packaged in random weight clear plastic wrapped packages. No UPC code or manufactures code are available. The product was sold to various locations throughout the five boroughs of New York City.

Routine sampling by New York State Department of Agriculture and Markets’ food safety inspectors and subsequent analysis of the product by the New York State Food Laboratory revealed the product contained eggs, which are not declared on the label.

No illnesses have been reported to date to this Department in connection with this product. Consumers who have purchased “Halal Plain Cake” or the “Halal Fruit Cake” should discard the product. Consumers with questions may contact Narala Bakery Inc. at (718) 287-8494.

 

More on C Peter Wagner’s Now Infamous Letter

In a recent letter, C Peter Wagner did a bit of lying about his own organization and its  heavy connection with American politics. After posting the letter I received some great comments (see the link above), and I put the matter aside (what’s new with this, nothing changes) but realized I was wrong in that wimpy thinking.

The following work is not my own, but I am bringing it to your attention because it needs to get out there as many times as we can get it out. Maybe someone caught up in the NAR/Self-Appointed Apostolic/False Prophetic/Imagined Strategic Spiritual Warfare/having the same power as God ~ manifesting false signs and wonders ~~that is Latter Rain/Dominion/Kingdom Now/7 Mountains from where we will rule America and the world will see the truth; maybe even Peter Wagner himself.

I am amazed at the work done by Orrel Steinkemp. I have found that in reading his articles I learn from his footnotes too! Here is a bit from a 2001 article of his debunking Wagner’s recent lie the NAR has no membership, and a little laying out of his plan 10 years ago to form the NAR!~

The Apostles Are Coming To Your City, Ready or Not
by Orell Steinkamp, The Plumbline, Vol. 6, No. 2, March/April 2001


In a previous issue of PLUMBLINE, I described the efforts of C. Peter Wagner to create a New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) which he predicts will be even greater in scope and significance than the Protestant Reformation of the 1500’s.  The centerpiece of the movement is the purported restoration, by God, of the NT office-gift of “Apostle’ to the end-time church.

Now Wagner and his apostolic buddies are attempting to move from vision to reality.  In an article titled, APOSTOLIC REFORMATION on his Website http://www.globalharvestministries.org he reveals moves that are currently underway, to implement his apostolic reformation.  In this article he restates the goals and also the preliminary means to implement them.

Goal:

Wagner asserts: NAR is an extra-ordinary work of God at the close of the 20th century that to a significant extent is changing the shape of Protestant Christianity around the world.  For almost 500 years Christian churches have largely functioned with traditional denominational structures of one kind or another.  Within this reformation, Wagner sees a growing recognition of present day apostolic ministries who are giving birth to their own family of leaders and churches to whom they have a relational commitment.  Within New Apostolic Christianity, this governmental authority is being exercised in the local church by the pastor and on a translocal level by apostles who operate with a relational authority.  Wagner sees what is happening in the NAR as key to world harvest.

Wagner sees apostles as being at the peak of their (own) networks and the people in their networks as accountable to them.  It is here in the article that the accountability of the apostles is addressed and Wagner begins to refer to the means of implementing the apostolic structure.

Implementation:

The New Apostolic Roundtable:

Wagner is personally involved in an accountability structure called the “New Apostolic Roundtable.” Twenty-five apostles were invited to join as members and they plan to meet together annually, the week after Easter.  Eventually, the names of the roundtable will be made public.

The International Coalition of Apostles:

Because this movement is growing so rapidly around the world, Wagner also sees a need for a larger kind of structure.  As a result he and a number of others have formed what they call the International Coalition of Apostles.  They have sent out their first invitations in January of this year and have just passed one hundred and fifty
members.  Wagner expects that they will ultimately attract from five hundred to one thousand members (solicited by invitation
only). They plan to hold an annual meeting along with occasional regional summits across America and around the world.

Link to continue reading

From here, and not for the first time, I highly recommend the many articles offered by Herescope. This is a good one in the series to start with – C Peter Wagner Spins the NAR.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Wearable Circuit Boards – Woe

The things we used to watch as kids, labeled as sci-fi entertainment and probably impossible have become today’s realities.  I believe some things are worth looking into.

Revelation 13:16  And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves to be given a mark on their right hand, or on their forehead, 17 and he provides that no one should be able to buy or to sell except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty six.

If you still think the prophesied mark of the beast and it’s warnings is from an old dusty book written for crazies, you may want to rethink that. There is a system setting up which has always been, one that is great and against God, against His Son and all things Holy. This is why our society has become so self-absorbed, more and more are against Christians, keeping prayer out of the schools and bible reading out of the workplace. This is why so many politicians come in the name of Christ, yet do unGodly things. Our world is becoming Godless, and America who was once known as a Christian nation no longer is. We see its preachers trading the truth of the gospel for fame and fortune, more willing to be well known by the masses than to be known by the name of Christ. America is so star-struck that the followers of these pastors don’t even see it right before their own eyes.

People laugh and think it’s no big deal to mark, tattoo and pierce the body, but the growth in popularity and its acceptance is a desensitizing process taking place. We are moving toward a cashless society at a great pace and one day it will not be so hard to accept an implant or a tattoo, or even a circuit board for ease in making purchases. We’ve already seen the technology of digital tattoos for healthcare. (see below) Consider Leviticus 19:28 You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead, nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves; I am the Lord. When He said “I am the Lord” it brings an implication that this practice involves worship or dedication of the self to another god. That was His warning. With a little research, this can be proved as we see so many other cultures doing this very thing. After all, that pierced nose with the ring through it originated from somewhere. You may laugh and say it does not matter that your tattoo is not to another god. Well, the Lord did not give you room for reason, He already said that’s what you would be doing.

We see a great unrest in the middle east, one that we have not seen before. Our world has great problems of hunger and disease, debt, terrorism – situations that cannot be solved through mankind. But there is a ruler coming that will claim ability to end all these things and he will be given the ability to bring about a peace for a time – 3 1/2 years. During that time the public will become so grateful to him they will actually worship and bow down to him. It will become a required practice and those who do not will be put to death. Taking the mark bearing his name will also be required of all people throughout the world- talk about loss of freedom. And those who take it will forever commit themselves to him. Those who do not will be put to death. Many will mistake him early on for Christ because they did not bother to learn the scriptures but remained proud in their lives and in their sin and did not repent of it. They chose to not listen to the warnings.

The real King is coming and He is Christ, the Messiah who laid down His life in place of yours. He is the one who will overthrow this coming world ruler who is all things false, an imposter of the real God.

Revelation 22:13 Behold I am coming quickly and My reward is with me, to render to every man according to what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.

Listen to the warnings and the next time you see something like this on the news or the next time a character in a movie is given an implant, it may strike you differently, and be a little less cool.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Digital Tats

Thanks to: http://justworshiphm.blogspot.com/2011/09/mark-of-beast.html

C Peter Wagner in His Own Defense

Some time back I was hit with quite a bit more traffic than usual and was able to trace it back to an online magazine called Al Jezeera. There I found an interesting article regarding Rick Perry and the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). The reason for my traffic was a link AJ made to one of the articles on my blog. So, it was with great interest that I just happened to find the following info in a google search!  Thought you’d like to see it for yourselves if you haven’t already.

C. Peter Wagner is speaking out against those who revealed what he stands for; dominionism, taking biblical control of the world by force via the seven mountains of influence, and the joining of the NAR to political America.

Volumes have been written already in exposing the false doctrine of the NAR, the organization behind what has become to be considered mainline Christianity. While some of the things that are said up front sound right, a close study of the bible and a comparison to God’s word with Wagner’s books reveal a completely different doctrine. I consider his teachings and all of the NAR activity to be doctrine of demons. (if you are one of his followers, please do some prayerful research!)

Wagner also did a bit of back-peddling after endorsing the apostate preacher Todd Bentley during the Lakeland fiasco, once it was found to be exactly that – a fiasco.

Earlier, a fellow blogger pointed out that the previously published NAR – Apostle/Prophet list I linked to another article here on my blog had disappeared. This was a handy link to have as it made it quite easy to find out if those we trust and take our doctrine from were part of the NAR. My search to find an updated copy revealed that the list is now only available to members!  See here – International Coalition of Apostles.

What could they be hiding? Maybe there is something to the fact that Chuck Pierce held some meetings last year in a Masonic Temple…Secret Societies.

Read on...I’d love your input!

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THE NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION

An Update by C. Peter Wagner, Ph.D.

THE NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION

August 18,2011

Surprisingly, the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) has recently become a topic of discussion in the political media. I noticed some mention of it in connection with Sarah Palin’s run for Vice-President, but I considered it relatively insignificant. Then more talk of the NAR surfaced around Michelle Bachman, but it soared to a new level when Rick Perry entered the race for the Republican nomination for President in August. The best I can discern, the NAR has become a tool in the hands of certain liberal opponents of the conservative candidates designed to discredit them on the basis of their friendship with certain Christian leaders supposedly affiliated with the NAR. To bolster this attempt, they seek to accuse the NAR of teaching false doctrine and paste on it the label of “cult.” For example, Forgotten Word Ministries posts an article by Marsha West expressing concerns about Rick Perry’s prayer assembly in Houston on August 6, that uses the title: “Texas Governor’s Upcoming Leadership Event Includes Cult Members.”[1]

Soon after the event, nothing less than Al Jazeera News picked up on the theme and posted an article on the NAR under the title “America’s own Taliban.” My name comes up in most of the Internet postings on NAR, but in this one I am called the “intellectual godfather” of the movement.[2] When I read that, I felt that I had a responsibility to attempt to bring some clarification as to what the NAR is, what are its goals, and how these goals are being implemented. That is why I am writing this brief paper.

What Is the NAR?

The NAR is definitely not a cult. Those who affiliate with it believe the Apostles’ Creed and all the standard classic statements of Christian doctrine. It will surprise some to know that the NAR embraces the largest non-Catholic segment of world Christianity. It is also the fastest growing segment, the only segment of Christianity currently growing faster than the world population and faster than Islam.[3] Christianity is booming now in the Global South which includes sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America, and large parts of Asia. Most of the new churches in the Global South, even including many which belong to denominations, would comfortably fit the NAR template.

The NAR represents the most radical change in the way of doing church since the Protestant Reformation. This is not a doctrinal change. We adhere to the major tenets of the Reformation: the authority of Scripture, justification by faith, and the priesthood of all believers. But the quality of church life, the governance of the church, the worship, the theology of prayer, the missional goals, the optimistic vision for the future, and other features, constitute quite a change from traditional Protestantism.

The NAR is not an organization. No one can join or carry a card. It has no leader. I have been called the “founder,” but this is not the case. One reason I might be seen as an “intellectual godfather” is that I might have been the first to observe the movement, give a name to it, and describe its characteristics as I saw them. When this began to come together through my research in 1993, I was Professor of Church Growth at Fuller Theological Seminary, where I taught for 30 years. The roots of the NAR go back to the beginning of the African Independent Church Movement in 1900, the Chinese House Church Movement beginning in 1976, the U.S. Independent Charismatic Movement beginning in the 1970s and the Latin American Grassroots Church Movement beginning around the same time. I was neither the founder nor a member of any of these movements, I was simply a professor who observed that they were the fastest growing churches in their respective regions and that they had a number of common characteristics.

If I was going to write about this phenomenal move of the Holy Spirit, I knew I had to give it a name. I tried “Postdenominational” but soon dropped it because of the objections of many of my friends who were denominational executives. Then, in 1994, I tested “New Apostolic Reformation.” “Reformation” because the movement matched the Protestant Reformation in world impact; “Apostolic” because of all the changes the most radical one was apostolic governance, which I’ll explain in due time; and “New” because several churches and denominations already carried the name “apostolic,” but they did not fit the NAR pattern. Other names of this movement which are more or less synonymous with NAR have been “Neopentecostal,” “Neocharismatic,” “Independent,” or “Nondenominational.”

I am rather fascinated at the lists of individuals whom the media glibly connects with the NAR. I’m sure that some of them wouldn’t even recognize the term. In many cases, however, they would fit the NAR template, but since the NAR has no membership list they themselves would need to say whether they consider themselves affiliated or not.

For those who might be interested in such things, the books I have written related to NAR include The New Apostolic Churches (1998); Churchquake! (1999); Apostles and Prophets (2000), Changing Church (2004); and Apostles Today (2006). These are all available on amazon.com.

Concerns about the NAR

If the critics are using openness to NAR as a slur against conservative political candidates, they obviously need to verbalize what could be wrong with NAR in the first place. To suppose that NAR is a “cult” or that it teaches “heresy” can be attributed only to sloppy or immature journalism. All too often “heresy” has come to mean only that the person disagrees with me and my friends, but the purpose of using the word is to project guilt by association on the politician. It attempts to implant a question: Who would vote for a heretic? But there is little evidence presented that the issue in question incorporates the doctrinal unorthodoxy of a true heresy. Instead, key words are usually dropped which describe legitimate areas of disagreement among Christian theologians on the level of whether or not we baptize infants. Neither of the opposite positions on matters like this deserve to be placed in the category of heresy.

Let me review the media pieces I have collected and pick out some key words in order to clarify my position. I say “my position,” because others in NAR might not agree with me, and they are not compelled to do so. NAR has no official statements of theology or ecclesiology, although a large number of us do happen to agree upon many somewhat radical conclusions. Most of us have long track records of service within traditional Christianity, and we have needed to go through paradigm shifts to get where we are now. Keep in mind that one of the affects of every paradigm shift is that some people get pulled out of their comfort zones. One of the reasons for opposition to some of the more radical ideas of NAR is that certain people have decided not to change and they are upset with those who have chosen to change.
Apostolic governance.As I mentioned before, this is probably the most radical change. I take literally St. Paul’s words that Jesus, at His ascension into heaven, “gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry” (Ephesians 4:11-12). Most of traditional Christianity accepts evangelists, pastors, and teachers, but not apostles and prophets. I think that all five are given to be active in churches today. In fact, St. Paul goes on to say, “And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers…” (1 Corinthians 12:28). This does not describe a hierarchy, but a divine order. Apostles are first in that order.
I strongly object to journalists using the adjective “self-appointed” or “self-declared” when referring to apostles. No true apostle is self-appointed. First of all, they are gifted by God for that ministry. Secondly, the gift and its fruit are recognized by peers and the apostle is “set in” or “commissioned” to the office of apostle by other respected and qualified leaders.

The office of prophet. Prophets are prominent in the Bible, both in the Old Testament and in the New Testament. As we just saw above, apostles are first and prophets are second. Every apostle needs alignment with prophets and every prophet needs apostolic alignment. One of the reasons why both should be active in our churches today is that the Bible says, “Surely God does nothing unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets” (Amos 3:7). And also: “Believe in the Lord your God and you shall be established; believe His prophets and you shall prosper” (2 Chronicles 20:20). I want to prosper and I want you to prosper.

Dominionism. This refers to the desire that some of my friends and I have to follow Jesus and do what He wants. One of the things He does want He taught us to pray for in the Lord’s Prayer: “Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.” This means that we do our best to see that what we know is characteristic of heaven work its way into the warp and woof of our society here on earth. Think of heaven: no injustice, no poverty, righteousness, peace, prosperity, no disease, love, no corruption, no crime, no misery, no racism, and I could go on. Wouldn’t you like your city to display those characteristics?

But where does dominion come in? On the first page of the Bible, God told Adam and Eve to “fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, etc.” (Genesis 1:28). Adam, Eve, and the whole human race were to take dominion over the rest of creation, but Satan entered the picture, succeeded in usurping Adam’s dominion for himself and became what Jesus calls “the ruler of this world” (John 14:30). When Jesus came, he brought the kingdom of God and He expects His kingdom-minded people to take whatever action is needed to push back the long-standing kingdom of Satan and bring the peace and prosperity of His kingdom here on earth. This is what we mean by dominionism.

A theocracy. The usual meaning of theocracy is that a nation is run by authorized representatives of the church or its functional religious equivalent. Everyone I know in NAR would absolutely reject this idea, thinking back to Constantine’s failed experiment or some of the oppressive Islamic governments today. The way to achieve dominion is not to become “America’s Taliban,” but rather to have kingdom-minded people in every one of the Seven Mountains: Religion, Family, Education, Government, Media, Arts & Entertainment, and Business so that they can use their influence to create an environment in which the blessings and prosperity of the Kingdom of God can permeate all areas of society.

Extra-biblical revelation. Some object to the notion that God communicates directly with us, supposing that everything that God wanted to reveal He revealed in the Bible. This cannot be true, however, because there is nothing in the Bible that says it has 66 books. It actually took God a couple of hundred years to reveal to the church which writings should be included in the Bible and which should not. That is extra-biblical revelation. Even so, Catholics and Protestants still disagree on the number. Beyond that, I believe that prayer is two way, we speak to God and expect Him to speak with us. We can hear God’s voice. He also reveals new things to prophets as we have seen. The one major rule governing any new revelation from God is that it cannot contradict what has already been written in the Bible. It may supplement it, however.

Supernatural signs and wonders. I have a hard time understanding why some include this in their list of “heresies.” Whenever Jesus sent out His disciples he told them to heal the sick and cast out demons. Why we should expect that He has anything else in mind for us today is puzzling. True, this still pulls some traditionalists out of their comfort zones, but that just goes with the territory. One critic claimed that the NAR has excessive fixation on Satan and demonic spirits. This is purely a judgment call, and it may only mean that we cast out more demons than they do. So what?

Relational Structures

Some of the authors I read expressed certain frustrations because they found it difficult to get their arms around the NAR. They couldn’t find a top leader or even a leadership team. There was no newsletter. The NAR didn’t have an annual meeting. There was no printed doctrinal statement or code of ethics. This was very different from dealing with traditional denominations. The reason behind this is that, whereas denominations are legal structures, the NAR is a relational structure. Everyone is related to, or aligned, with an apostle or apostles. This alignment is voluntary. There is no legal tie that binds it. In fact, some have dual alignment or multiple alignment. Apostles are not in competition with each other, they are in cahoots. They do not seek the best for themselves, but for those who choose to align with them. If the spotlight comes on them, they will accept it, but they do not seek it.

The key to this? The mutual and overriding desire that “Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven!”

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[1]http://www.forgottenword.org/leadershipevent.html

[2]http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/07/20117259426336524.html

[3]David B. Barrett, et. al.,  eds., World Christian Encyclopedia,, Volume 1, Oxford UK: Oxford University Press, 2001, p. 4

Digital Tats…

There is a reason for the mass love of tattoos going on in our culture. There is a reason God told us not to do such a thing. (I didn’t listen either.) The day is coming when anyone who wants to buy or sell, eat, cash their paycheck, etc. will be required to take a “mark”. It is in worship of the beast, just as tattooing which came from other cultures is done as worship of their gods. The technology has been around for a while, but this tat with the use of an i-phone grabbed my attention. Yes, I love technology too, but we are being de-sensitized to accept everything that comes along. We will do will to think twice about the next thing that takes permanent residence on or under our skin. There will be no mistaking of the mark. It will be survival and will be in worship of the anti-Christ. Put your trust in God today. Salvation is found in Jesus Christ only.
Revelation 13:16-17 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Digital Tattoo Gets Under Your Skin to Monitor Blood

Bioengineering doctoral student Kate Balaconis shines the iPhone reader against her tattooless arm.

Maybe tattoos aren’t just for Harley riders or rebellious teens after all. In a few years, diabetics might get inked up with digital tats that communicate with an iPhone to monitor their blood.

Instead of the dye used for tribal arm bands and Chinese characters, these tattoos will contain nanosensors that read the wearer’s blood levels of sodium, glucose and even alcohol with the help of an iPhone 4 camera.

Dr. Heather Clark, associate professor of pharmaceutical sciences at Northeastern University, is leading the research on the subdermal sensors. She said she was reminded of the benefits of real-time, wearable health monitoring when she entered a marathon in Vermont: If they become mass-produced and affordable for the consumer market, wireless devices worn on the body could tell you exactly what medication you need whenever you need it.

“I had no idea how much to drink, or when,” said Clark, reflecting on her marathon run. “Or if I should have Gatorade instead.”

Clark’s technology could spell out the eventual demise of the painful finger pricks required for blood tests — assuming users have an iPhone, which Northeastern bioengineering grad student Matt Dubach has customized to read light from the tiny sensors to collect and output data.

Here’s how it works: A 100-nanometer-wide set of sensors go under the skin, like tattoo ink — as for the size, “You can spot it if you’re looking for it,” Clark says. The sensors are encased in an oily agent to ensure the whole contraption stays together.

Within the implant, certain nanoparticles will bind exclusively to specific blood contents, like sodium or glucose. Thanks to an additive that makes the particles charge neutral, the presence of a target triggers an ion release, which manifests as a florescence change. The process is detailed in an article published in the journal Integrative Biology.

Dubach designed the iPhone 4 attachment to use the phone’s camera to read the color shift and translate the results into quantifiable data. A plastic ring surrounding the lens blocks out ambient light while a battery-powered blue LED contrasts with the sensors. The software uses the iPhone camera’s built-in RGB filters to process the light reflected off the sensors.

Why blue? Initial trials with lights that projected other colors were hindered by Apple’s built-in optical filter, but blue light uses the iPhone’s built-in RGB setup to process the data accurately. That blue light, powered by a 9-volt battery attached to the phone, works with the sensors’ red-shifted florescence because red shines well through skin.

As of now, the data collected with the iPhone still requires processing through a secondary machine, but Duboch says using the iPhone to do all the work is not far off, and that an app is likely on the way.

Clark hopes to see the work of an entire clinical analyzer done by nanoparticles interacting with smartphones, which would mean a major step forward for personalized medicine. Diabetics and athletes alike could adapt and measure their own statistics without dependence on big, pricey, exclusive medical equipment.

The testing is still in early stages, and hasn’t been tried on humans yet. Research on mice, who have comparatively thinner skin than humans, has shown promising results.

Readings of blood concentrations show up like this, with different colors indicating different sodium concentrations. Photo Courtesy of Matt Dubach.

When Apple’s next iPhone comes out, the project will benefit, said Dubach, citing rumors that the iPhone 5 will include a more powerful camera sensor.

“I’m holding out for the iPhone 5,” Dubach said. “More megapixels gives you more for the average,” meaning the higher-resolution camera provides more data for analysis. Even bioengineers are waiting for Steve Jobs’ next move.

The technology is still years off, but Clark and Dubach’s developments are bringing medicine closer to a time when diagnostics are minimally invasive. Real-time feedback through subdermal circuits and smartphone cameras means you could know exactly when to slug that water.

Researchers tested the iPhone attachment on this plate reader, which determines the nanosensors’ response to the reader. Photo courtesy of Matt Dubach

Alexander George is ambivalent about his New Jersey provenance. He currently lives in San Francisco and writes for WIRED.