1 John 4 How Well Are We Learning? –

Have you ever read another person’s words and thought to yourself “I could have written that”? Well, here we are…

This is all very reminiscent of when I was in the open, honest and upfront titled “new age ‘christian’ church”. Back in the day when Bethel was just a glimmer in satan’s eye. We too visited the graveyards and set the demons free all over the world. We did mighty works and did an amazing amount of what appeared to be ‘good works’, there were many miracles, signs and wonders. I witnessed cancer, hiv and unexplained illnesses cured. The majority of these were a temporary healing, since none of those we cast demons from actually repented of sin and turned their lives over to Jesus Christ. The demon was cast out and many more came back with it, to the empty house.

We (just like Bethelites) embraced the assistance of demons and considered it to be great fun. Those demons who masquerade as angels were more than willing to help find lost articles and give a word in an itchy ear. Honestly, some of those demons are quite ugly and smell horrible, just sayin’, that is when you see them in their true form.
All of this also brings to mind a quote I ran across recently from John G. Lake: His Life His Sermons, His Boldness of Faith, Kenneth Copeland Publications, 1995, p13: “It is not honoring to Jesus Christ that sickness should possess us. We do not want disease. We want to be gods”.
Yep, those silly new agers in denial are being taught very seductively that they too are gods. Which has been the satanic agenda ever since the real God threw that wanna be rascal right out of heaven. Unfortunately, Bethel simply denies their new age title and has become a leading force in the worship of a false jesus, also known as an antichrist.
I praise Yah many, many times a day for rescuing me and saving me from certain damnation. I was one messed up pup for years after the new age, who didn’t want to listen to reason from those regular Christians, who read the Bible faithfully and studied The Word. (It was pounded into my head that the Bible could not be trusted as the actual Word of God, since it was written and rewritten many times over by mere humans) When I came to my senses, via an ‘enlightenment’ and walked away from that nacc, my family fell under massive attack from the forces of evil. I was pushed down the stairs twice, in the dark sides effort to shut me up and keep me from talking.

The last time was just a little over a year ago when I began speaking out in my word of faith/charismatic church concerning the similarities of what I walked out of years ago and what I was witnessing in the church through the teachings of Randy Clark and Bill Johnson (supernatural schools). However, today I shout hallelujah, for my God is faithful. It has been a very long journey of healing, which at this point God has turned to his highest good by delivering to me ample time to read and study His Word. I am so grateful that my Father has lovingly guided me into His truth, which abides in Scripture.
If the people that are seeing and interacting with these so-called angels would test the spirits as written in 1John 4, and become brutally honest with themselves they just might be blessed with seeing exactly who is the driving force behind these teachings that are leading them in the direction of the wide gate. (I would advise here to be very careful what you ask for, you might just get it).

Today, I find that I truly feel sorry for the Johnson’s, and the Clark’s (as well as many others) who have been lead astray. Especially though, I pray that my ‘sisters’ would become bold enough to ask in the name of Jesus Christ that they be shown God’s Absolute Truth of the signs and wonders they are chasing. The Lord must have had a really great plan, until they fell into the trap. And yes, it truly is a trap of massive proportions.

 

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The Truth and The Lie Are Set Up Side by Side

I’ve been writing for several years now, exposing the false signs and wonders of Charismania that has taken over the church. This movement has come from many sources, mine were the International Association of Healing Rooms, heavily influenced by Bill Johnson, Bethel, in Redding, CA, and a long list of names and teachers to go along, including Heidi Baker of Iris Ministries, John Paul Jackson of Streams Ministries. I operated in the false prophetic, laid hands on people, zapping them with strange electrical power that did nothing but knock them (and me) around. I think most of you know my past, so I won’t rehash it just now. It is important that you understand the power was quite real, quite dramatic, and just as all sin is for a time, quite fun. I watched as I felt that presence go from warm and comforting, to electrical and painful, even scary at times.

I have found the greatest doctrinal error in those groups was the misunderstanding of the Holy Spirit and how He operates in the lives of believers and in the lives of unbelievers. He has a very specific part to play and He does not work in the life of a believer in the same way He does an unbeliever. One thing that I will note which is a very important foundational knowledge:

John 16:12“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to

you.

For better clarification and to alleviate misunderstood doctrine regarding the Holy Spirit, please read the words of Jesus as He explains Him to His disciples in John 14, 15, 16. If everyone did that I wouldn’t be writing this article and charsimania would never have existed.

I want you to keep this in mind as you watch the videos that follow. I believe this movie made by Darren Wilson (Finger of God, Father of Lights) will play a large role in further deceiving the masses, first believers and then unbelievers. Darren’s previous movies clearly displayed the false signs and lying wonders of fallen manna and gold teeth mysteriously appearing in the mouths of people. Darren, like many of us, wanted to see more of God – more power, more healings, more miracles and so he opened himself up to the god of charismania. This movie is just another false idea that we need to be in a specific place to receive in truth was freely given for the asking. All of charismania believes there are specific places where God “shows up”. This is not the teaching of the New Testament.

I experienced the power they speak of in this movie attributed to the work of the Holy Spirit. I experience the lying wonders. And though they use His title (just as they use the name of Jesus) they do not know Him, nor do they speak for, or of Him. The power behind this movie is the same power behind Charismania. It is demonic. It is not Jesus.

The few of the people involved in this movie: Michael W Smith, Heidi Baker, Bill Johnson, Randy Clark, Andrew Wommack, Todd White and Kim Walker. Darren has made a plea to the public to get involved too. Word of mouth advertising is most effective. I hope those of us who speak the truth will do the same and get the truth out there.

The following link comes from Charisma –

Holy Ghost Movie

Yes, I am greatly disturbed and grieved. This is probably the hardest article I have written since the beginning of my blog. I have seen things go from bad to worse. People, we cannot have the power of the Holy Spirit without repentance! Bethel and IAHR, and all the rest, believe it is a force that can be passed off from one person to another, by way of impartation. It is not repentance they are after. It is the power.

The following video is a collection on Brian Welch of Korn. Brian is in the Holy Ghost movie and claims to know Christ. He left Korn, formed his own band, then returned to Korn. He pals around with John Crowder; is depicted in the last part of the video with Todd Bentley and Patricia King doing their usual false prophetic thing in telling Brian, like they tell everyone, how great an influence he will be.

I have to warn you this video can get quite graphic but you need to know, the world needs to know who is taking part in the Holy Ghost movie. As for repentance, where is Christ beyond the use of His name? Again, caution in viewing.

This is a more “intimate” video further revealing the euphoric, drunken, even sexual influence of the demon referred to as “jesus”. We are not seeing this for the first time. We  will not find the disciples describe Jesus, the Messiah, in such a way in the pages of the bible.

By now you are seeing many things. An important point that we want to remember is in all of this, is the focus is not put on Christ, it is put on the person – fame and fortune, a bit of word of faith prosperity. Christ calls us to repent and to turn from our sin. We are called out from the world.

I believe there is a reason the music world has been pulled into this deception and I will get into that another time.

You see how the truth and the lie have been set up side by side.

The first release is scheduled for August 9.

Other reads:

It’s All Been a Set Up

Holy Spirit Manifestations

 

 

 

 

 

A Warning for Repentance

I received the following comment in response to my article, False Healing Impartation. I am using our conversation as a public reminder and warning to others. I hope and pray it is heeded, seriously. Many false prophets and teachers are among us, and many are deceived.  The word of God and repentance for them is our only way out. I pray these moments come to all who need them.

M’Kayla, you just mentioned that his teachings is not Biblical. It seems to me that you haven’t understood the Bible from the start. Randy is a man of God, and he has lead many to Christ. Regarding impartations, God always uses people to accomplish his will. Mark 16, mentions that believers will lay their hands on the sick and they will recover.

It is so sad to see believers do this. You also mention that in their meetings they shake, and do funny staff. Have we worked God out already?. Does our personal experience put a frame to God, and anything outside of that is wrong. I attended his conference and he layed his hands on me. Since then I have been praying on the sick in the name of Jesus, and many are getting healed and saved. Praise and glory be to God. I am so sad by your post.

My response:

 I would like for you to show me scripture where the things Randy teaches and the manifestations of the flesh, aka falling down, shaking, laughter is found in the word of God. Yeah, we can say that we lay hands on the sick and they recover. Do they? If you are supporting and teaching the things Randy Clark does, you are leading people to another “jesus” and not to the Messiah taught of in the bible. You can excuse it any way you want but the bottom line is that Randy Clark’s teachings are not the same as the teachings of Christ.

Let me warn you. It is one thing to come in the name of the Lord, but the proof of who you follow must line up with scripture. If it does not, you are not a child of God, and you are not saved and will face the wrath of the Most High.

I know these teachings because I used to follow them and teach them. The Lord showed me the truth and it was not an easy time for me. I pray you seek Him with all of your heart so that He will show you the same as what He did me, and many others who come here.

Again, where are your supporting scriptures? They will not be found. You my dear, are in great danger. Start here – Galatians 1:8 – But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.

Information on SOZO

With all that is taking place between Bethel, International Association of Healing Rooms and the ongoing healing ministries/ministers who think they have a special gift of healing –  this new research site on SOZO is going up.

Pass it along!

Bethel SOZO Research Group

Lakeland Electrocution Impartation

 This is a video dated May 8, 2008, a little over nine minutes of Randy Clark and Todd Bentley while at Lakeland, Florida. I am putting this up to show the connection between some of these false teachers and false moves of God.  I am familiar with Randy Clark and with the healing ministry, having had been a part of one for almost three years.  I am more than familiar of the dangers involved in these imparations and the manifestations of the demonic which takes place once we come into agreement with what is being passed on. This is not a true practice of the early disciples and what the word of God teaches in the laying on of hands.  All believers have the presence of the Holy Spirit. We do not need Him or any of His gifts, His power or authority “imparted” to us.

I’ve transcribed most of the video or at least what I felt were the most important portions and made some observations and notes along the way.

Randy Clark coming on stage, introduced as the “Firestarter” of the Toronto Blessing at about 1:23, Todd says, “Dear Randy… Firestarter, I know you’ve been lighting fires all over the world.” 

Everytime Todd says “firestarter” I think of the Stephen King book/movie of the same name. Hmm, I think Drew Barrymore played the lead character, but I can’ t be sure. Maybe there is a reason as they both, Randy and the main character in the story, are known for starting fires.

Randy gets the mike and the name dropping starts: Bill Johnson, John Arnott, Rolland and Heidi Baker, George and Winnie Banov, all of their groovy little group, and he even says “WE know it’s God”.  Endorsement!!! No one wants to miss out on what God is doing. No one has the backbone for it.  He does not want to hinder, but to bless, but as he says this I wonder if that is the truth. He seems a little unsure. 

Then at 2:12 Randy begins to prophesy (falsely) over Todd. “No one can find anything negative in  your stream or your root, because your root goes right to Jesus Christ. And the stream goes right to heaven”  And of course, the crowd loves it.  (gag) This is more of the same falseness that came from Staci Campbell, although I dont’ know if it was before or after this night in which she told him he was pure.  None of us are pure. None.

Exposing the root or stream is exactly what I am doing here. Showing the relation between one false movement (not) of (our) god and another move, passed from one guru to another, and on it goes right to you or me. It is important to see the relation between the person and the false teaching and how they are passed from one to another like a virus.  It was a key factor for me when I was doing my research while involved in these deceptive practices.

Randy tells him he is like Amos, the prophet, and boy, Todd reeeeaaalyy likes that because the manifestations that started small are really moving his body now.  Can anyone say Kundalini??  Let’s practice, “not Holy Spirit, Kundalini”.  Or we can simplify and say, “not Holy Spirit, Satan”. It is Satan who is causing these manifestations, not God, the Most High, not the third person of the holy trinity.  This is not about the power of the presence of God.  This is about demonic possession.

At about 3:00 Randy starts talking about how “IT” started in Lakeland, then moved to Toronto, then Pensicola…”IT”…all over the world. (“IT another of those Stephen King stories!!)

Of course Randy has to point out that “IT” began with Rodney Howard Browne aka the holy spirit bartender (and it grieves me to type that out  – h.s. bartender – as it is such an abomination to who and what the Spririt of God truely is!)  But we have to get a mention to yet another name and accolade to whom it is due, so that Todd does not get too high handed in that he was responsible for this major revival that is ready to “break out”.  Really, the words they choose are so odd!!  Here they are, so concerned about honoring God and claiming this is of God, but so quick to name names of who did what, when and where!

And I just love the comment about Todd’s lack of $5000 suits, what about those tats, though. Hmm, some pretty pricey art work there. But, here it’s all okay as long as he doesn’t look like one of those fakey pricey preachers wearing a suit that cost more than most of us paid for our first 3 cars. Now this is a true sign of a laid down life.

Okay, here we go into the deep water.  At about 4:24 Todd points out that he was saved in January just as the Toronto blessing is taking place, as tho there is some deep meaning there, January of ’94.   But, wait, there is.  Cuz, Randy jumps in and says this to him: “One of the things I have seen in church history is often people who were touched, saved or touched in the last move become leaders in the next move. But, you are right, the leaders of the last move, can’t bless.” (huh?)” But Bill Johnson is talking about our ceiling is the floor for the next generation.” Again, the crowd loves this comment.

(Look here, TOUCHED…by whom or maybe we should ask touched by WHAT.  There is nothing in the word of God about this “touched”.  And, now Christianity has levels just like eastern religions, higher places, higher planes, floors and ceilings, etc.  Where is this in the bible??)

Now we see the connection between people and places.  Rodney Howard Brown at Lakeland Florida who prayed for Randy Clark who went to Toronto Canada where “IT” broke out.  John Arnott and John Kilpatrick were in the mix there too. Rodney had been involved with Ken Hagin. Ever heard of the “laughing revival”?

Remember the names above?  They are all connected between each other. Randy Clark prayed for Heidi Baker who is joined with Bill Johnson, more formally, Bill’s Bethel church and Heidi’s Iris Ministries.  And they are all pals with Todd Bentley.  At this point in time everyone is in line to be known as Todd’s best pal!  No one cares that he is as fake as the day is long.

 These people attending believe they are part of something BIG. They are, it’s just not what they think it is and sadly, they are too deceived at this point, too seduced by this false spirit to ask the right questions. They are being prepared to receive even more of the deception, as the big impartation is getting ready to happen.  They are standing with raised hands in agreement, in expectation. (Agreement plays a very important part in this deception.)

Randy starts to pray and then the beginning of his unholy impartation begins as the prayer turns into a decree.  At 5:30 he says this praying for pastors: “We come together now, we bless you in the name of Jesus, we pray for the fire to come upon you.  The fire of God to come upon you into your hands you begin to sweat, you feel the electricity, that God would do to you what he did to Heidi and Leif Heitland and some others…”  When do we read in the bible that God sends fire upon His own people, or even electricity?  Fire was always used to destroy people, not build them up.  This is a very important point with Charismaniacs. They really like the “fire” of God. It is not a good thing to ask God for.

Randy claims out of the move, I believe he is again referring to Toronto, 2 people were touched – there’s that word again – touched, 2 million saved 12, 000 churches planted.  Where does he get these numbers? And the claims of so many churches and salvations is astronomical!! Where are all of these people and if so many have been truly saved, what is wrong with our world?  This cannot be. But, this is Charismania at it’s best.  Tellin them “tall tales” of exaggeration to get your attention, your praise, your following and adoration and your cash. 

Randy says “God is going to do more now because in Toronto He said, ‘I am coming gently to you now so you will not be afraid when I come into my power’.”  Catch those words – come into my power. When would God ever need to come into His power?  Who exactly is speaking here, because by these words we know it is NOT God Almighty.

Randy goes on to say that they have been “pressing in” for 14 1/2 years for a massive breakthrough and that this move is two fold.  Todd is going to be bringing this revival to the streets, massive evangelism, massive healings. He claims that we are now actually seeing in the US what we have seen overseas, and even more.  (Remember Rodney Howard Browne is from Africa.) Again, they are not “bringing” the presence of God, He has already been here with us as evidenced by the believers.  These people are bringing some other spirit claiming it is the Holy Spirit. It is not.

Again Randy begins to pray at 6:55 this time for America, for the western countries, Australia, England, Austria, Germany… all over the world.   Curious.

Then he tells the audience to lift their hands and they do (there’s the agreement factor. At 7:41 “Father, I pray that you would give them a sign that you are increasing the anointing for healing in their life.”  Then he asks, “can we wait one minute? We are going to ask God to release fire on your hands a sign that you are going to receive a healing anointing, and it’s going to be multiplied.  Some of you may begin to weep, you may begin to laugh, you may begin to shake begin to sweat, bowed over, bent down by the glory of god, and fire and electricity coming into your hands…in Jesus name…release this sign to them that you are anointing for healing that they are going to take it back to their churches and the places you will send them…now in Jesus name…now in Jesus name…release your fire…release your electricity.  I see some of you already the power of god is like 110, god make it 22o (screaming)…fire come into your hands and it would even hurt because of the power, fire, more more electricity, (he picks on someone he knows is from Korea) electrocute the Koreans in Jesus name. Thank you Lord.”

Wow. 

Decreeing, demanding god for not only an impartation, but a a painful impartation of electricity and fire  to take it back wherever they go. Dangerous, demonic impartation of a sign, a spirit and manifestations not of our God spreading like a deadly virus.  And deadly it is.

We know  that few, if any, were healed during this Lakeland fiasco. We know there was little to no mention of the saving grace and gospel message of Jesus Christ.  We remember Emma. We know how Todd ended at Lakeland in the affair, quickie divorce and new marriage. We know all the false prophetic words given during that time, and yes, let’s call them for what they truely are – false.   We know that Todd is being wooed by Bill Johnson and Rick Joyner.  Todd Bentley was not sent by our God. This is not over. Whatever was unleashed is still alive and well and growing in power.  

Remember Randy repeated the words of his god “when I come into my power“.  Remember on another of my posts John Kilpatrick claimed the message from his god to be  R.E.S.U.R.R.E.C.T.I.O.N.

What is coming into power, what is being resurrected?  Not our Messiah. What if these are messages from the anti-christ?

Ephesians 1:17-19  That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory may give to  you the  spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, the eyes of your understanding being enlightened that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His interitance in the saints, and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power.

For more on manifestations see my article on Holy Spirit Manifestations here.