eating off the wrong tree

From time to time someone comments here regarding the Bethel, the church in Redding, California, headed by Bill Johnson. He is known to be quite influential and many flock to his church because they believe God is doing “something”. These misinformed believe that unless they are in Bethel physically, they will “miss out on” what “God is doing now”.

I’ve put up quite a few articles related to Bethel and its Pastor Bill Johnson who pals with Cal Pierce of International Association of Healing Rooms – think John G. Lake.  I’d like to take a second to show you how easy it is to spot false teaching. Now, the teaching I am about to show you did not originate from Bill Johnson or Cal Pierce. It is a fundamental teaching out of the word of faith heresy. Watch how simple.

I was asked to contact a young woman in regards to my experience with the healing rooms – IAHR. This woman has become involved with Bethel, its healing rooms and the teaching of Bill Johnson. (Both healing rooms share the same teachings.)  I shared with her my experience and concerns. She claimed she knew we, as believers, could “speak things into existence” because the word says power of life and death are in the tongue, and that is proof that we could.

Here is my response to her –

You said you are grounded in the word. Please consider then, these scriptures that you have been taught out of context.

You saidThe bible says the power of life and death is in the tongue.  That’s proof right there that we can speak things into existence.

Below is the scripture in context and you will see nothing said before or after teaches we can speak things into existence.

Proverbs 18:20-22

20 A man’s stomach shall be satisfied from the fruit of his mouth;
From the produce of his lips he shall be filled.
21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue,
And those who love it will eat its fruit.
22 He who finds a wife finds a good thing,
And obtains favor from the LORD.

The power to “call things that are not as tho they were”, or to “speak things into existence comes” from a clip from the following scripture, again I am posting it in its context –

Romans 4:16-18

16 Therefore it is of faith that it might be according to grace, so that the promise might be sure to all the seed, not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all 17 (as it is written, “I have made you a father of many nations”[a]) in the presence of Him whom he believed—God, who gives life to the dead and calls those things which do not exist as though they did; 18 who, contrary to hope, in hope believed, so that he became the father of many nations, according to what was spoken, “So shall your descendants be.

This scripture so often quoted out of its true meaning speaks of God’s promise to make Abraham the father of a nation, even when he was so old, past the age of child bearing, the thing that did not exist. It also refers to the sovereignty of God, His power to speak life into what did not exist before, all of creation, to call a people, the Gentile nation, to be His even when they were not. Again, nothing is said here of our power to call things to exist

So now we can see that Proverbs and Romans are two very often misquoted scriptures – where does the idea of this wrong teaching come from???

Genesis 3:4-6

4 Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.

To claim we can do the same things that God does, to claim to have that ability and power is to make the claim we are like God, as the serpent told Eve above. And how quickly she found out otherwise. I know you have a zeal for God but please make sure you are doing the work of a true believer. Just to lay claim to some thing and pound God’s name on it, does not make it of God. We have a responsibility to keep the word of God and its teachings pure and to handle it with utmost care. These word of faith teachers do not teach us the word of God as it is written, but twist it to say something other than what it does, as you can see by these examples. Why do they do this? Maybe because they have been deceived for so long they can no longer see the truth. Or maybe they don’t care of the truth; they just want the fame and fortune. None of us know for sure but we do know when we compare their teachings with the word -as we have done here -they don’t say the same thing.

This is why I warn others of this heresy and of those who are eating off the wrong tree.

This is her response back to me:

Faith, hope and love. The rest is whatever.  I’m not going to debate with you. I love people with faith! And those that have faith for the impossible is great in God’s eyes.  They are childlike and that is the only way to make it into the kingdom of heaven.
Have a good day.

Notice not a bit of care or concern with the truth staring her right there in both of her eyes! I guess if you have this “faith” then nothing else matters.

This is the teaching supported at Bethel and throughout most of charismania. Not the true word of God, but one contrived of twisted scripture. Again, I have to wonder what it truly means when they twist the word of God so easily, and Jesus Himself is referred to in John 1 as the Word.  Does it make you want to jump the first plane, train or auto out there to be just as deceived?

False Healing Impartation

Matthew 10:7-8  As you go, preach, saying “The kingdom of Heaven is at hand. 8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.”

This is the stuff I came out of – (false) HEALING –

Randy Clark was one of the speakers (along with Bill Johnson) at the one and only IAHR (International Assoc of Healing Rooms -Cal Pierce/John G. Lake) conference I attended a few years ago in Spokane. He also was very influential in the spiritual life of the Healing Rooms Director I worked with.  I have a video of Randy and Todd at Lakeland on my blog doing that impartation thing –electrocution style. Impartation is a very big thing in charismania. I’m sure it’s were I picked up the demons. Bad stuff.

Watch it here to see if you really want to be a part of the teaching and impartation offered by Randy and his cohorts- and hear them discuss the connection between Todd Bentley, Randy Clark and the Toronto Blessing – Lakeland Electrocution Impartation

A man cannot impart spiritual gifts, power, anointing, knowledge or wisdom into another. Those things are given through God alone. The Holy Spirit IS God, so how can a man who teaches improper things and false doctrine impart Him to you? It cannot be done. Let me warn you. Watching and listening to false teaching in agreement  is enough to invite demons into your life. If you open your mind to the thought that “maybe they are right, maybe they know more than I” you have opened a door for deception. The devil will be very happy to lead you further astray.This is what happened to me.

Link to Randy Clark’s ministry – Global Awakening (There’s that word again – AWAKENING) Does this sound like it has anything to do with Christ or the gospel?

Again, in these teachings and ministries they completely deny the work of the Holy Spirit in believing THEY are the carriers of His presence.  THEY have the answer to why people don’t heal when they are prayed for. Forget the sovereignty of God. Word of Faith has the answer everyone is looking for. They spin off of Ken Hagin’s stuff.  It’s witchcraft repackaged!

It is God who heals. We pray, He moves. Not everyone gets healed and we do not know why. It is not our place to know. It is not even our place to ask or to question God.  I don’t care how many times they spit out the word intimacy, there are some things we are not to know. Isaiah 55:8 For My thoughts are not  your thoughts, nor are your ways My ways, says the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts. Those who do not walk in the Spirit led lifestyle will go after other knowledge and claim to know things the rest of us do not. Whatever they are selling, even if they offer it for free – you do not want it.

Acts 8:18-24 Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit. 18 and when Simon saw that through the laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Spirit was given, he offered them money, 19 saying, “Give me this power also, that anyone on whom I lay hands may receive the Holy Spirit.” 20 But Peter said to him, “Your money perish with you, because you thought that the gift of God could be purchased with money! 21 You have neither part nor portion in this matter, for your heart is not right in the sight of God. 22 Repent therefore of this your wickedness, and pray God if perhaps the thought of your heart may be forgiven you. 23 For I see that you are poisoned by bitterness and bound by iniquity.” 24 Then Simon answered and said, “Pray to the Lord for me, that none of the things which you have spoken may come upon me.”

Simon was a new believer as noted in verse 13, having had been a sorcerer. Being so new to the faith it is easy to be mistaken. Peter pointed his sin out to him in without haste and Simon repented. These gnostic laden teachers are not new believers and are therefore without excuse.

After all, where we we when God hung the stars into place and set the planets into orbit? Can we tell God how that is done? No. We cannot. (Those who think otherwise should read the last few chapters of Job.) Where we we when God formed Adam out of the dust of the ground creating intricate parts of the body that miraculously work together? We cannot tell Him how creation of man is done. We cannot tell Him how to heal a person. And we cannot tell another how to heal a person. Healing comes only from the power of God Himself through His choice to heal or to not heal. It will never come through a man made method or decree or proclamation, nor by study course or impartation!

It certainly does not come from healing energy, (see their message below) which sounds very much like Reiki, a Japanese technique for reducing stress and promoting healing through the laying on of hands. The word Reiki is made of two Japanese words – Rei which means “God’s Wisdom or the Higher Power” and Ki which is “life force energy”. So Reiki is actually “spiritually guided life force energy.Read more here – What is Reiki

Be careful, be wise and ask the Lord to give us all greater discernment in these times.

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    The Agony of Defeat, The Thrill of Victory, Four Kinds of Faith for Healing, Biblical Basis for Healing and Pressing In
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    Healing and the Kingdom, Deliverance: A Ten-Step Ministry Model, Throne Life, Healing out of Intimacy with God and Warfield: His counterfeit miracles and today’s echos.
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    History of Healing within Christianity and Healing Energy
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Always Reaching, Never Finding

After I left the healing room ministry I began to do additional research into what they believed and taught others. It’s pretty much the same Word of Faith garbage repacked and sold by Cal Pierce, International Association of Healing Rooms out of Spokane WA.

I did quite a bit of research using my bible and a concordance – the resources I already had in my home. I didn’t have to go out an buy an expensive dvd or cd set or take a bunch of courses or pay hundreds of dollars to see the truth the way I did to see the lie. Imagine. Freely you have received, freely give. (Who said that?)

So after my research I put all of the information together along with a personal explanation and sent it off to all the members of the healing room, past and present.  None of them left the ministry, and only a couple asked questions. But, to my knowledge not one of them took to heart the truth of the scripture against the lie of the so called ministry. They continue to follow their heralded “famous one” who leads them to the path of apostasy who teaches them if a person is not healed there is a reason why and usually the problem is within.

Sadly, I see the ministry I left and those I warned plan to continue with teaching their “How To’s” this coming weekend. And all for a bargain price of $20! After all, they have the secret formula for healing! So, I wonder why they are sick? Why they need breathing machines to sleep at night, why they take medication or end up in the ER, why do they wear glasses and why are they overweight? Why do they go through surgeries and medical procedures and suffer bad effects from the medications? Why do their bones break or muscles pull? Why does the food they eat disagree with them?  Why do they succumb to seasonal viruses or request that those who are sick keep away from them? Why? Are they not all healed? NO. – -NO NO NO!!

Then how can they possibly continue on with such a mindless charade of lies that physical healing is in the atonement and it is part of a believer’s heritage to live disease free? Can someone else please tell them that we, even if we are saved, are still fallen, subject to sickness and disease?  If you have ever known someone who is chronically ill you will see from them that the miraculous is not so much in a person’s healing, but in they way they effect others while they are sick. It is in their testimony that they still stand and worship God and believe in Him and trust in Him despite the illness!  It is because they have purposed in their heart “Thy will be done.” These are the true faithful ones. So they do not have a need to go running around from place to place, in a crazed frenzy seeking out that healing, going from church to conference in cars, trains and airplanes spending their very last nickel to “get some healing” or “experience God’s tangible presence in this place with a special anointing” or visit that special person who is famed to “have the anointing on him/her, or who moves in the gift of…“. Because they have found it is NOT all about “me”.

But this is the topic they will be teaching on this weekend, How to Heal Biblically, or healing the way Jesus did. Listen, I was with them for almost 3 years and I only saw one person get healed during that time. Only one! Has anyone posed the question that if it were really God’s will to heal then why don’t the people heal? Crazy.

We know Jesus laid hands on the sick and they were healed instantly. We know He told his disciples to heal the sick and they did. We also know we do not see that same amount of healing today. We don’t know why. But, there are plenty of ministries like this one that will make you believe they have the answer to that question and they are happy to teach them to you. Believe me, these so called “answers” are not found in the bible.  See my writing Are All Healed.

They will also teach that there are such things as generational sins or curses, this is “sins of the father” that are passed from one generation to the next. This is old testament, and not true of a believer. Repentance brings forgiveness and we are not held responsible for another person’s choices. Jesus took the curse for us on the cross. All of them. Galatians 3:13  See my article on Generational Curses.

While it may be true there were special places of worship and of God’s visitation in the old testament, it is not the norm for a new testament believer. We are given the indwelling of the Holy Spirit as part of the new covenant, which old testament believers did not have. There is no need to visit a place of healing or a faith healer.  When we are taught otherwise we are being taken back to the old covenant and in doing told to ignore or forget the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ.  And when we believe these lies we are following after another gospel and have perverted the faith. Consider how many of these deceived and false teachers refer to the old testament rather than the new.  They are taking Jesus out, just like unbelievers. It is ok to believe in God, just not His one and only Son.

These healing room ministries are all about the person – the healing, the gifting, the anointing, the authority. Yes, Jesus is in there somewhere, but He is not the head because it’s only His name that is used.  If He were the head there would not be such an emphasis on the person. And in this environment where there is supposed gifts like wisdom, teaching, prophecy, revelation, dreams and visions and gifts of intercession, there is also something called jealousy.  Yes! Looking at others wanting what they have, coveting, not being content in their own gift. But such a thing  called- contentment – is not the way of satan, who himself claimed to Eve that she could could be like God! Never content, always wanting more, wanting even demanding through crazy decrees and proclamations to speak things that are not as though they were forgetting this refers to God, not man! Going after what is out of their human reach or design to have, to know or to understand – out of God’s perfect will. Is this not the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life warned about in (1 John 2:16)?

Always reaching, never finding.

2 Corinthians 11:3-4  3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.  4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted–you may well put up with it!

Eye Witness of the Imposter

2 Peter 1:16 For we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eye witnesses of his majesty. (emphasis mine)

This scripture came up by a commenter here  who recently left her church because the Lord showed her the error in the teaching of Bill Johnson, Bethel Church in Redding, CA that so many are mesmerized by. In her comment to me she made the distinction between the eye witnesses of Jesus Christ and the eye witnesses of the imposter.

Peter was an eye witness to the life, teachings, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.  That would be Jesus of Nazareth, the only Son of the Most High God, the Messiah, the promised One. Much of the writing of the bible came from those who were eye witnesses to who and what He was, His methods, His compassion, His authority, His forgiveness. They tell us they witnessed these things so that we would believe their testimony and believe on Him who they testified of.  An eye witness is considered credible and believed. If not, then God would have found another way to prove the testimony of Jesus is true.  But He chose to get His message across through a group of very plain, every day people. These things considered true and worthy are written in the bible so that those who read will believe. This is stated in John 20:31..but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

Those who walked with Jesus side by side, those who spoke to him face to face were the eye witnesses of His majesty. It is because of their faithfulness that Christianity flourished in the way it did. Not in the way man would consider success, but in the way God designed it to be. I believe it is God’s will that all men, women and children all over the world would come to know Jesus Christ as their savior, the one who gave His innocent and perfect life for theirs. I don’t think God wants anyone to be lost, but it is by their own choosing that they are.

Those of us who have found ourselves caught up in the false revival, in the false charismatic or what I call “charismania”, in the word of faith movement, in healing room ministries, in manifest sons of God, in dominion or kingdom now theology, prophetic ministry,  or in the emergent/contemplative church, have traded the true Jesus of Nazareth for an imposter. We have traded the pure and simplistic message of the gospel for a one that is not only false, but one without purpose or direction, one that teaches most anything goes or that it is impossible to be deceived. One that is indeed a doctrine of demons set out to separate you from the God who died for you. One that you will surely burn in hell with. Why? Because you participate in their wickedness – see 2 John 8-11 and according to Revelation 21:8 all liars will have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone. Those who bring another gospel other than the one given by the disciples in the bible are liars. Simple.

Those of us who have come out of those cults or doctrines of demons are eye witnesses to their dangerous, seductive teachings and methods of revival, worship, intercession, impartation and prophesy.  Indeed, it is by the grace of God that we were saved out from them.  If you are reading this and you are involved in any of these cults, this is your warning to listen, pay attention to what is being spoken to you, or imparted to you, or prayed over you and take that information to your bible and prove that it is true. You will not find that it is. You will instead find a spirit posing as the Holy Spirit and some other god called Jesus who is not the one and only Son of the Most High. How do you know you are right? The only way to know is to prove it through God’s word. It is our standard by which all teachings, prophecies, prophets and apostles should be measured.

Jesus never lacked or held back from calling a wrong for what it was – never. He never backed down in spite of the bad treatment He received from many, even those who claimed to love Him. He never let the ways of man get in the way of what He came to earth to do, which was to save sinners from eternal damnation.  He never backed down even though every day of those 33 years of His earthly life made Him one day closer to the horrific suffering that was sure to take place.  It came as no surprise to Him, He knew it all along and still He chose to go through with it.  Imagine that if you can.

This is your warning. It may be the only one you ever get before you die. If you are following the teachings of these imposters or those who teach with them or under them you are following  cleverly devised myths. I am here to tell you that I have been an eye witness of their ministries on some level. I have read their books, listened to them on media, bought their teaching, watched them on television, and believed and even coveted their prophecies, and some I have seen and been prayed over by them in person. In turn, I supported and taught to others what I learned from them.

Cal Pierce, Bill Johnson, John Paul Jackson, Paul Keith Davis, Kim Clement, Heidi Baker, Patricia King, Bob Jones, Sid Roth, Rodney Howard-Browne, Ken Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Joyce Meyer, Cindy Jacobs, Paula White, Mike Bickle, Chuck Pierce, Todd Bentley, Randy Clark, Lou Engle, Dutch Sheets, Rick Warren, Rory and Wendy Alec; anyone on television, teachings and teachers at Bethel, IHOP, International Association of Healing Rooms, Vineyard, Streams Ministries, Rhema, Word of Faith, the Elijah List and Extreme Prophetic. I also avoid their worship music. This is only a partial listing. Do your research.

I am telling you to get away and get away now.  Believe me, Jesus did not die so you could protect the teachings or defend the honor of a person you believe to be right who in reality is a false teacher or prophet. You will not gain points because you do so. It will not gain you anything to call me a Pharisee, or tell me that I have a religious spirit or that I am judgmental, or accuse me of spreading trash. I am warning you of fatal error as I am told to do in the bible.

You will be faced with God one day and all of your excuses will not mean a thing to Him as He turns His head from you with the words “DEPART, I NEVER KNEW YOU!” So, is that risk worth it? Are you sure who you follow and believe?

..work out your own salvation with fear and trembling..Philippians 2:12; Behold now is the accepted time; behold now is the day of salvation. 2 Corinthians 6:2

Repent my friends and be restored to full salvation.

Another Spirit

I found this article a couple of days ago. It explains some of things I experienced while involved in the charismatic, or what I now refer to as “charismania” and the false prophetic – the words of prophecy that came so freely, whether I was with the person or not, the “knowing” or what this author refers to as “clairvoyance” as I started to know things that were impossible otherwise, the feeling of drunkenness, the falling, slain in the spirit, the laying on of hands and anointing others who would be slain, the numerous languages in “tongues”, the expectation of “an intercessor” and spiritual warfare, the dominion and word of faith view to “speak things into existence”, the emphasis on the supernatural in dreams and visions and interpreting, numerology (and I don’t even like numbers), and of course that “prophetic word” that I was a seer, that the Lord called me a seer, was how it was explained to me – -that one false prophetic word that carried so much weight and so much importance and is the very thing that kept me pinned in under it all – and so it went.

I didn’t get into everything mentioned here, I didn’t go contemplative, or experience gold dust or make animal sounds, but what I did get into was enough to nearly destroy me. I think maybe it would have had I died practicing it. I don’t believe we get into heaven after following other gods.

While watching Todd Bentley early on during Lakeland, he said something that got my attention. He said that he could feel the “anointing” in his back. Well, so could I! And it was a new thing for me – a new experience that had just begun happening and I didn’t know why. I thought it odd, how someone who so misrepresented the Lord had the same experiences I did.

Kundalini?  But, from where?  I’m still not sure.

Just after that I began to have an overwhelming desire to practice yoga. I took a class long ago, very long ago, in high school. And I did it some in my home off and on over the years, but I hadn’t for a long time. So, when these thoughts to practice yoga came at me I thought it was strange that the desire was so strong, and I avoided getting involved. But, now I see the connection in what I have recently come to understand  – kundalini yoga.  Remember, kundalini is said to coil at the base of the spine – where I felt the anointing that I thought was of God.

I guess it is simple to say that satan comes at us in many forms and just leave it at that.  But, my inquiring mind won’t let things go so simply. I see so much connection in false Christianity and other religions. I see how these demons are passed from person to person like a virus, and nearly as easily. I am astounded, really at the lack of true discernment so many of us have had and for so long.

Please be careful in these times, they are dangerous. Christianity is slowly becoming something else, something not about the cross, but about people and their gifts, a presence, a feeling, an experience. Please know the people you allow to teach you and their associations. Be sure they are true followers and disciples of the one and only Jesus Christ, because as His word has warned us, many have come, and are still to come in His name! See that no one deceives you and steals your reward!

Final Preparations to Receive the New Age Christ

Full Article Here

by Prof. Johan Malan
Middelburg
South Africa (March 12, 2008)
www.bibleguidance.co.za

Another spirit

Satan’s spirit of error (cf. 1 John 4:6) is actively working in the world to blind people’s minds to the truths of the gospel, while guiding them on how to have mystical experiences and empowering them to perform signs and wonders with occult powers. The many demons which Satan has at his disposal are evil spirits who are sent out to deceive people, thereby advancing the interests of the kingdom of darkness. The following actions of these spirits are very evident in the time in which we live:

Strange phenomena. The New Age Movement and its associated false religions is at present focusing attention on the discovery and use of the miracle-working psychic powers of healing, as well as the promotion of various supernatural manifestations. Even at many Christian meetings strange phenomena are now common, e.g. falling (or slaying) in the spirit. Other phenomena, such as laughing in the spirit, prophesying in the spirit and dancing in the spirit, which result from this experience, are also attributed to the Holy Spirit. Many believers blindly accept these phenomena without testing the spirits, despite the danger of spurious satanic imitation in such manifestations. Most of the Word of Faith preachers create strong expectations of powerful manifestations of the Holy Spirit. However, there is no scriptural basis for the signs that allegedly occur at their meetings. There is also the phenomenon of gold-dust falling on the hands, arms or hair of those at the meetings, while some claimed that fillings in their teeth turned into gold! Another modern fad in this movement is the so-called “New Wine” meetings where people experience typical symptoms of drunkenness. This is accompanied by falling, dancing and laughing in the spirit, also pogo stick jumping and making a wide range of animal noises, such as barking like a dog, crowing like a rooster and roaring like a lion! Are not the claims that such highly dubious phenomena and extraordinary behaviour are attributable to the activity of the Holy Spirit quite blasphemous, grossly insulting to Him and detrimental to the Christian witness to the world? It is not difficult to see how ideally this suits Satan’s purpose to discredit the Christian faith and deceive as many as he can. The express purpose of deceiving spirits is to destroy the faith of believers and to mislead, confuse, corrupt, overshadow and control them with the power of deception.

A new spirituality. The deceiving spirit of Satan imitates the Holy Spirit and instills a new kind of spirituality in people. It is a spirit of self-exaltation, pride and arrogance which makes you very important and powerful in your own eyes because of the gifts you have received, the recognition you enjoy, the strong influence you have over people, and also because of your material wealth. The presence, power and gifts of this spirit become the dominating reality in your life, while Jesus is subtly moved to the background. This spirit instils nice and relaxed feelings in you so that you forget all your problems and sins. He does not convict of sin, always condones it, and has no problems to live with lies, deceit, distorted versions of the truth, and moral laxity. He gives people the false hope that they are saved and will go to heaven. He uses so-called ‘prophets’ as human mediators to convey messages to you about what God wants you to do. He also majors on extra-biblical revelations from God through dreams and visions. He removes guilt complexes on his own authority, without specific reference to the cross, and surrounds you with light and joy. You are ever dependent upon him. He guides you through a process of inner healing to a spiritual reprogramming of your life in which the scars of the past, and even from before your birth, are put right by self-healing, positive confession, hypnotic regression and the breaking of generation curses.

This new spirituality is contemplative. People are taught to switch over to their ‘right-brain’ through meditation, walking labyrinths and practicing mystical techniques such as yoga. They empty their minds by the using of mantras (the repetition of a single word or short phrase) which helps them descend to the deeper levels of their subconscious mind where they experience an altered state of consciousness. In this spiritual state some people meet spirit guides who teach or inform them, while others even hear voices speaking to them. There are also those who receive supernatural gifts such as prophesying, healing, tongues, astral travel, clairvoyance, and the performing of miracles.

This spirit also tells you that you are a king already, who has dominion on earth, and can claim and demand anything you like. You do not have to suffer poverty, disease or any other afflictions, and you can change anything through positive confession. You are in command of your life. He motivates people to organise transformation rallies as a means to usher in the kingdom of God on earth. He also makes his victims believe they can pull down demonic strongholds in any society by making use of strategic spiritual warfare. Any notable success is evading them as Satan will only be incarcerated when Christ comes (Rev. 20:1-3). In this dispensation, only individuals can be set free from the power of Satan – not entire cities or countries!

Berit Kjos posted a very helpful chart in which she indicates the transition from evangelical beliefs to the new spirituality: www.crossroad.to/charts/new-spirituality.htm From this chart it is evident that a spiritually blinded humanity explores mystical powers in its quest to become divine, united and in full control of its own destiny. People end up discovering a mystical christ in their own hearts (the god within) who guides them into gaining a position of dominion on earth.


Spiritual Drunkenness

How about this one – Rodney Howard Browne as he is known as the holy spirit bartender along with Patricia King and her heavenly wine vats. Drink, drink, drink.  If you ever watched Todd Bentley in Lakeland, FL last year,  and his worship guy, Roy,  you would have heard about the getting drunk and drinking comments and how they connect it with the anointing of the holy spirit, claiming “belly up to the bar!” or “the bar is open!”  What abominations to a Holy God they claim to represent! They do not!

Even Todd in his “Marinating” CD spoke of drinking from God.  Crazy lies. So the connection is not only between people and places, (as I showed in the Lakeland Electrocution Impartation) but connecting people with spiritual drinking. You know, drunk in the spirit. Now we have a name for it and it’s ok to accept this craziness, cuz, God is powerful and anything can happen. So, out goes the discernment, the word of God and let’s all judge by our experiences and yippee, we are all having such a great time!  Yes, there is an “anointing” and “impartation” taking place of a spirit alright, but it is NOT the Holy Spirit connected with the Most High God, the one who will judge all men! Ever heard of Baachus, God of wine and mystic frenzy, ecstatic trances??  Sound familiar Patricia King?

If you are part of this and are having a good time you better heed this warning and run for your bibles to check these claims against the true word of God. Because after the party comes the hangover.  Peter in Acts 2:15 proclaimed they were NOT drunk! The bible does make references to wine that it is a mocker (Proverbs 20:1), not to be drunk with wine (Ephesians 5:18).  Jesus said he would not again drink of the fruit of the vine until he drank it new with us in the Father’s kingdom (Matthew 26:29)  We are to be filled with the Holy Spirit in which there is self control (Galatians 5:23) and not this monstrosity of bad theology!  I don’t care what these people claim, they DO NOT have access to heaven!

Wow. Did anyone of you ever get off the floor after this drunken impartation actually changed? No. No one does and that is the clincher. Nothing, none of us ever change under this false drunken anointing!  But, I will bet it does make you want to do it again and again, gotta get to that next meeting, that next conference just like any other addiction – one more time, one more time until the end comes and with the end comes the destruction.

I find is so bizarre that these same people that want to be drunk and impart spiritual drunkenness are the same ones who cry out “FIRE!” on God’s people! It is these liars who will one day be cast into the lake of fire right along with the demonic being who led them into their deception.

The cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all lairs shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. Revelation 21:8

Two youtube videos both from  grinz2000:

Todd getting drunk with the multitude and more of that sheeka-boom-ba thing

Roy Fields hysterical laughter during worship

Lakeland Electrocution Impartation

 This is a video dated May 8, 2008, a little over nine minutes of Randy Clark and Todd Bentley while at Lakeland, Florida. I am putting this up to show the connection between some of these false teachers and false moves of God.  I am familiar with Randy Clark and with the healing ministry, having had been a part of one for almost three years.  I am more than familiar of the dangers involved in these imparations and the manifestations of the demonic which takes place once we come into agreement with what is being passed on. This is not a true practice of the early disciples and what the word of God teaches in the laying on of hands.  All believers have the presence of the Holy Spirit. We do not need Him or any of His gifts, His power or authority “imparted” to us.

I’ve transcribed most of the video or at least what I felt were the most important portions and made some observations and notes along the way.

Randy Clark coming on stage, introduced as the “Firestarter” of the Toronto Blessing at about 1:23, Todd says, “Dear Randy… Firestarter, I know you’ve been lighting fires all over the world.” 

Everytime Todd says “firestarter” I think of the Stephen King book/movie of the same name. Hmm, I think Drew Barrymore played the lead character, but I can’ t be sure. Maybe there is a reason as they both, Randy and the main character in the story, are known for starting fires.

Randy gets the mike and the name dropping starts: Bill Johnson, John Arnott, Rolland and Heidi Baker, George and Winnie Banov, all of their groovy little group, and he even says “WE know it’s God”.  Endorsement!!! No one wants to miss out on what God is doing. No one has the backbone for it.  He does not want to hinder, but to bless, but as he says this I wonder if that is the truth. He seems a little unsure. 

Then at 2:12 Randy begins to prophesy (falsely) over Todd. “No one can find anything negative in  your stream or your root, because your root goes right to Jesus Christ. And the stream goes right to heaven”  And of course, the crowd loves it.  (gag) This is more of the same falseness that came from Staci Campbell, although I dont’ know if it was before or after this night in which she told him he was pure.  None of us are pure. None.

Exposing the root or stream is exactly what I am doing here. Showing the relation between one false movement (not) of (our) god and another move, passed from one guru to another, and on it goes right to you or me. It is important to see the relation between the person and the false teaching and how they are passed from one to another like a virus.  It was a key factor for me when I was doing my research while involved in these deceptive practices.

Randy tells him he is like Amos, the prophet, and boy, Todd reeeeaaalyy likes that because the manifestations that started small are really moving his body now.  Can anyone say Kundalini??  Let’s practice, “not Holy Spirit, Kundalini”.  Or we can simplify and say, “not Holy Spirit, Satan”. It is Satan who is causing these manifestations, not God, the Most High, not the third person of the holy trinity.  This is not about the power of the presence of God.  This is about demonic possession.

At about 3:00 Randy starts talking about how “IT” started in Lakeland, then moved to Toronto, then Pensicola…”IT”…all over the world. (“IT another of those Stephen King stories!!)

Of course Randy has to point out that “IT” began with Rodney Howard Browne aka the holy spirit bartender (and it grieves me to type that out  – h.s. bartender – as it is such an abomination to who and what the Spririt of God truely is!)  But we have to get a mention to yet another name and accolade to whom it is due, so that Todd does not get too high handed in that he was responsible for this major revival that is ready to “break out”.  Really, the words they choose are so odd!!  Here they are, so concerned about honoring God and claiming this is of God, but so quick to name names of who did what, when and where!

And I just love the comment about Todd’s lack of $5000 suits, what about those tats, though. Hmm, some pretty pricey art work there. But, here it’s all okay as long as he doesn’t look like one of those fakey pricey preachers wearing a suit that cost more than most of us paid for our first 3 cars. Now this is a true sign of a laid down life.

Okay, here we go into the deep water.  At about 4:24 Todd points out that he was saved in January just as the Toronto blessing is taking place, as tho there is some deep meaning there, January of ’94.   But, wait, there is.  Cuz, Randy jumps in and says this to him: “One of the things I have seen in church history is often people who were touched, saved or touched in the last move become leaders in the next move. But, you are right, the leaders of the last move, can’t bless.” (huh?)” But Bill Johnson is talking about our ceiling is the floor for the next generation.” Again, the crowd loves this comment.

(Look here, TOUCHED…by whom or maybe we should ask touched by WHAT.  There is nothing in the word of God about this “touched”.  And, now Christianity has levels just like eastern religions, higher places, higher planes, floors and ceilings, etc.  Where is this in the bible??)

Now we see the connection between people and places.  Rodney Howard Brown at Lakeland Florida who prayed for Randy Clark who went to Toronto Canada where “IT” broke out.  John Arnott and John Kilpatrick were in the mix there too. Rodney had been involved with Ken Hagin. Ever heard of the “laughing revival”?

Remember the names above?  They are all connected between each other. Randy Clark prayed for Heidi Baker who is joined with Bill Johnson, more formally, Bill’s Bethel church and Heidi’s Iris Ministries.  And they are all pals with Todd Bentley.  At this point in time everyone is in line to be known as Todd’s best pal!  No one cares that he is as fake as the day is long.

 These people attending believe they are part of something BIG. They are, it’s just not what they think it is and sadly, they are too deceived at this point, too seduced by this false spirit to ask the right questions. They are being prepared to receive even more of the deception, as the big impartation is getting ready to happen.  They are standing with raised hands in agreement, in expectation. (Agreement plays a very important part in this deception.)

Randy starts to pray and then the beginning of his unholy impartation begins as the prayer turns into a decree.  At 5:30 he says this praying for pastors: “We come together now, we bless you in the name of Jesus, we pray for the fire to come upon you.  The fire of God to come upon you into your hands you begin to sweat, you feel the electricity, that God would do to you what he did to Heidi and Leif Heitland and some others…”  When do we read in the bible that God sends fire upon His own people, or even electricity?  Fire was always used to destroy people, not build them up.  This is a very important point with Charismaniacs. They really like the “fire” of God. It is not a good thing to ask God for.

Randy claims out of the move, I believe he is again referring to Toronto, 2 people were touched – there’s that word again – touched, 2 million saved 12, 000 churches planted.  Where does he get these numbers? And the claims of so many churches and salvations is astronomical!! Where are all of these people and if so many have been truly saved, what is wrong with our world?  This cannot be. But, this is Charismania at it’s best.  Tellin them “tall tales” of exaggeration to get your attention, your praise, your following and adoration and your cash. 

Randy says “God is going to do more now because in Toronto He said, ‘I am coming gently to you now so you will not be afraid when I come into my power’.”  Catch those words – come into my power. When would God ever need to come into His power?  Who exactly is speaking here, because by these words we know it is NOT God Almighty.

Randy goes on to say that they have been “pressing in” for 14 1/2 years for a massive breakthrough and that this move is two fold.  Todd is going to be bringing this revival to the streets, massive evangelism, massive healings. He claims that we are now actually seeing in the US what we have seen overseas, and even more.  (Remember Rodney Howard Browne is from Africa.) Again, they are not “bringing” the presence of God, He has already been here with us as evidenced by the believers.  These people are bringing some other spirit claiming it is the Holy Spirit. It is not.

Again Randy begins to pray at 6:55 this time for America, for the western countries, Australia, England, Austria, Germany… all over the world.   Curious.

Then he tells the audience to lift their hands and they do (there’s the agreement factor. At 7:41 “Father, I pray that you would give them a sign that you are increasing the anointing for healing in their life.”  Then he asks, “can we wait one minute? We are going to ask God to release fire on your hands a sign that you are going to receive a healing anointing, and it’s going to be multiplied.  Some of you may begin to weep, you may begin to laugh, you may begin to shake begin to sweat, bowed over, bent down by the glory of god, and fire and electricity coming into your hands…in Jesus name…release this sign to them that you are anointing for healing that they are going to take it back to their churches and the places you will send them…now in Jesus name…now in Jesus name…release your fire…release your electricity.  I see some of you already the power of god is like 110, god make it 22o (screaming)…fire come into your hands and it would even hurt because of the power, fire, more more electricity, (he picks on someone he knows is from Korea) electrocute the Koreans in Jesus name. Thank you Lord.”

Wow. 

Decreeing, demanding god for not only an impartation, but a a painful impartation of electricity and fire  to take it back wherever they go. Dangerous, demonic impartation of a sign, a spirit and manifestations not of our God spreading like a deadly virus.  And deadly it is.

We know  that few, if any, were healed during this Lakeland fiasco. We know there was little to no mention of the saving grace and gospel message of Jesus Christ.  We remember Emma. We know how Todd ended at Lakeland in the affair, quickie divorce and new marriage. We know all the false prophetic words given during that time, and yes, let’s call them for what they truely are – false.   We know that Todd is being wooed by Bill Johnson and Rick Joyner.  Todd Bentley was not sent by our God. This is not over. Whatever was unleashed is still alive and well and growing in power.  

Remember Randy repeated the words of his god “when I come into my power“.  Remember on another of my posts John Kilpatrick claimed the message from his god to be  R.E.S.U.R.R.E.C.T.I.O.N.

What is coming into power, what is being resurrected?  Not our Messiah. What if these are messages from the anti-christ?

Ephesians 1:17-19  That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory may give to  you the  spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, the eyes of your understanding being enlightened that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His interitance in the saints, and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power.

For more on manifestations see my article on Holy Spirit Manifestations here.

theology vs experience

The comment we don’t change our theology according to our experience comes from Cal Pierce. I don’t know if he picked up this little comment from someone else or if it was of his own  making.  He is the first person I heard say it, and now many are echoing this ridiculous statement.

I have not changed my theology according to experience.  But when I began to doubt what I was being taught and when I saw that people WERE NOT being healed, saved or delivered I went to the bible and Strong’s concordance to see if those teachings were true. They were not.  Obviously, Cal Pierce and his followers, including those who have made their life’s purpose to mimic him have adopted this cute saying. They do not know the word of God, they know the words of themselves or those of demons.

If you don’t know he is the man responsible for reopening the healing rooms in Spokane, WA originally started by John G. Lake, now operating as the International Association of Healing Rooms (IAHR). There are something like 1,000 of these healing rooms scattered throughout the world. This is the minstry I had been involved with that made me stand up and take notice of what was being passed around and taught to others under the guise of a “Christian healing ministry”.

Anyone following in Pierce’s footsteps or those of Bill Johnson, who is on the IAHR Board of Directors, read the word against thier claims.  I was a big “fan” of Johnson’s too.  Why would any man or woman of God endorse or support Todd Bentley who is a proved fake and a very dangerous person??  Gracegracegrace!!!  Bill says.  oh star-struck brother, watch out!

Supernatural Encounters

Supernatural Encounters

God is supernatural and many unexplained supernatural events can occur. But we have become out of focus with “God can do anything”, and too much emphasis on the supernatural occurrences and an excess of angelic visitation, supernatural experiences and dreams and visions.  Even the great prophets and disciples in the bible didn’t have THAT many. God never violates His own character or His word.

In the bible, every supernatural occurrence had a reason and an outcome. Current false teaching is just the opposite with those false teachers and prophets claiming trips to heaven and out of body experiences for no reason other than to just hang out and have a good time.  They claim it is their “right” as a child of God. Really?  I wasn’t aware we had rights to anything.

Ezekiel was not taken up in the spirit to “hang out”.  He was called as a prophet to warn fallen Israel of their sin and the consequences and to repent!  That is a true function of a prophet, to speak the word of God. Tongues of fire in Acts led to a great many salvations and the gospel of Jesus was preached throughout the land, many were healed and delivered and the church grew at an alarming rate – a true sign and wonder!

God spoke to His people in dreams and visions and they either immediately understood or He revealed the message to them.  In the Old Testament, God mostly spoke to people in their dreams like a one way conversation. There was no need for an interpreter.  Daniel interpreted dreams for a pagan King Nebuchadnezzar so the King would acknowledge God.  How much more now can we understand of our own dreams and visions from God that we have been filled with the Holy Spirit?  Peter did not understand his symbolic dream and the Lord immediately explained it to him.

Likewise, angels are messengers of God.  They do not bring gifts or healings or even revival, nor do they perform spiritual surgical operations on people. They do not drop their feathers to prove they are around.  The bible tells us they are, so why do they need to prove it? Angels worship God and do not bring attention to themselves and warn others to not do the same. Angels who forgot their place were kicked out of heaven! Biblical signs and wonders are salvations, healings, deliverances, things that God is interested in.  Much different than those that claim otherwise with gold dust, gems and oil!  Remember, revivals are about repentance, not fleshy signs and wonders.

Galatians 1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

Beware of all teaching supporting “experienced based theology” in which much importance is placed on experiencing His presence and His voice and other supernatural experiences above all else, including the importance of bible study. Watch out for meditative (lecto divina) and contemplative/emergent/mystical spirituality, centering prayer methods or methods of “the ancient fathers” and Catholic mystics which were not taught anywhere in the bible or by Jesus or practiced by His disciples. These are not new but are moving in as accepted practices in our churches as methods of becoming closer to God.  These teachings are about achieving a mind set with “god” and higher spiritual planes or levels.  These are not methods of our Lord and have roots in Hinduism, Buddhism, Catholicism and the occult.

Also beware of “inner healing” methods used in theophostics and sozo which were first taught and used by New Age practitioners and secular therapists through  guided imagery and visualization techniques. I know this because I used these methods for several years before I came to Christ!   All these so called Christian ministries have done is attached the name of Jesus added with it some scriptural truths and packaged it all up as “God’s”.  Nonsense!  Just because a “jesus” shows up in these sessions does not mean it is the true Jesus! And, Jesus never discussed or prayed “inner healing” with anyone. Even though there is a “level of truth” in these methods does not make it holy and acceptable before God. For more on this topic see my article here – Inner Healing.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.

Beware of teachers and prophets who really like to quote the Old Testament to back up their weird teachings and supernatural experiences.  One scripture does not a doctrine make, no matter how convincing the teacher! Numerology is of the occult.  There is no instance in the bible that God speaks to His people through the use of numbers. Watch for stories of portals, throne room and third heaven experiences and other various things false teachers and prophets are trying to teach us of late.

Something is very wrong when Christians are encouraged and taught to practice that which the pagans, occultists and new agers do. Some believe since the pagans already do these things, Christians need to catch up because it is our heritage!! It is not!  God created men and women to be on the earth, not out of it.

Deuteronomy 29:29  The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but those things which are revealed belong to us and our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.

There is a fine line in what we are allowed to know.  God is only going to reveal Himself and the spiritual realm to a degree.  He is the One who decides and has established how far we can go. Once we dare to cross that fine line, once we go to God and make demands to see and to know, as many now claim that we can, such things considered as Gnostic, we have opened ourselves up to occultic experiences masquerading as Godly ones.  I believe Satan often shows up in these moments and is very happy to play his charade as an angel masquerading in light.

1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons.

Their message must also prove over and again that Jesus, the Christ, the Messiah, son of the living God is indeed Lord and has come in the flesh.  They must speak of the gospel of the Lord and His salvation and of sin and true repentance. This is the very reason Jesus died and the essence of the great commission!  Their message must stir others to a greater love of God and of His Word and the love of His people.  If this is not so, if the message they bring creates a need for “self”, my gifts, my worship, my feelings, my healing, etc. then the messenger is not of God.

Long gone is the care for the truth of Christ and the simplicity of the gospel message. There are so many deceived, operating in false signs and wonders who are too prideful or stubborn to look at the word of God to see the truth.  Others claim these signs and wonders simply for the attention, fame and cold hard cash they provide.  Who needs to work when manipulation of the desperate is a well honed talent?  How long will the Lord relent and when will be the moment for them when it is too late to turn back?

Inner Healing

I wanted to put something together in the area of inner healing as I was asked about it.  If you want to read the conversation it can be found beginning with comment #2 under the topic Generational Curses  here – https://mkayla.wordpress.com/2009/06/06/generational-curses/#comments.  I’ve copied most of the teaching to this article, so it may not be necessary.

I don’t have a large amount of experience in this area, but I want to share what I do know with you. I was trained under a specialized form called SOZO which was written specifically for the ministry I was involved with. I participated on teams approximately 6 or 8 times and personally underwent the process.

Many years ago I learned and used the same methods while in secular therapy referred to then as “inner child healing”.  When someone comes and makes a connection like this we should pay attention. It should be a huge cause for alarm.

This is the process.  The person is asked by a counselor to go back in time and remember the first time she felt a certain negative way about herself or the first time she remembers suffering abuse or trauma, whatever the presenting problem. Once the memory is there she is asked to “connect with” the feelings of the memory. When that is achieved she then is told to “speak into” that moment to the child affirming she is loved, worthy, important, safe etc. Then, the “child” is assured she is safe now because the “adult” can and will protect her in the future.

The idea here is to speak to the negative influence thereby breaking negative thought patterns or behaviors believed to have been brought on from some trauma in the person’s life.  This is known as visualization or guided imagery.

So imagine this same scenario in a “Christian” setting,  but instead of the “adult” speaking,  the “counselor” or “prayer partner”  asks Jesus to speak His truth into the memory.  Same process just a different “savior”.

Hmm…so where is this in the bible?

We already know as Christians we are not to look back and that we are in a process of discipleship, having our minds renewed and looking to God who is our hope.

Consider these scriptures:

Luke 9:62 – But Jesus said to him, “No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.”

Ephesians 4:20-24 – 20 But you have not so learned Christ, 21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus: 22 that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, 23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, 24 and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.

Romans 12:2 – And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

Acts 20:32 –  “So now, brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified.

Psalm 43:5 – Why are you cast down, O my soul?And why are you disquieted within me? Hope in God; For I shall yet praise Him, The help of my countenance and my God.

Romans 15:13 – Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that you may abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Philippians 1:6 – being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ

The story of Nicodemus came to my mind as I was considering healing.  This is just kinda paraphrased from John 3. When Nicodemus didn’t understand the words of Jesus in being “born again” he questioned how could it be possible to enter the womb a second time. And Jesus clarified so that Nicodemus understood it is not a matter of the flesh, but a matter of the spirit. It struck me because our growth is not a matter of going back into the past, its a matter of being born again and going forward from there.

John 3:1-6 1 There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. 2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”
3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”
5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

The best argument is the truth of scripture against the lie. There isn’t a single instance of this or any “inner healing” process, visualization or guided imagery techniques being taught or practiced by Jesus or the disciples.  We do not borrow techniques from the world or other religions. Christianity has its own methods for healing and we don’t need the ideas of man in the form of psychology or New Age practices to get us there. God does not “show up” just because we expect him to or just because we stamp the name of Jesus onto some method or program.

This inner healing for the Christan is a very wicked, very evil practice. God is very much aware of our sufferings and our focus is on Him, not the past. God does not violate what He has already designed and as born again believers and followers of Jesus we already have what we need to be overcomers. I believe the “jesus” speaking to these people is not Jesus Christ, the Messiah, but a demon disguising himself. I say this out of my own personal SOZO experiences and those I helped lead.

Stay far away from any prayer ministry involving the healing of past memories no matter how good it sounds or how much sense it seems to make. It is a dangerous road to go on and you may find yourself with more trouble than when you started.