Building the Sphere of Media Influence

1 John 2:15 Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. 17 The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever.

Upcoming next month, Proclaim 16

Proclaim 16, the NRB International Christian Media Convention, is a four-day, jam-packed event that connects, equips, and edifies thousands of Christian communicators – from broadcasters to producers, writers to publishers, managers to pastors, artists to consultants. This is a “must attend” event for Christian communicators. You will hear outstanding internationally known speakers and artists, have the opportunity to attend numerous networking events, and receive helpful industry insights.

If you’ve attended before, you know the Convention is only half of the attraction. Experience our award-winning Exposition, featuring approximately 200 companies. The booths of the exhibit floor make up an active marketplace of products and services that can expand and enhance your organization. From innovative ideas and endeavors to must-have tools and equipment to organizations that influence millions around the world, the Expo has it all!

This event is a coming together under what can only be described the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) 7 Mountains, the sphere of Media/Entertainment. If you aren’t familiar with the 7 Mountains, it’s based on the premise that we, as believers, must take over the world for Christ. Until this is accomplished Christ cannot return, the belief which is commonly referred to as “dominionism”. There are believed to be 7 areas (spheres, mountains, etc.) of societal or cultural influence, being Religion, Family, Education, Government, Media, Arts/Entertainment, Business. The 7 Mountains came around years back when scripture from 2 Corinthians 10 was taken out of context and applied as  personal direction to a small group of Christian friends. Since that time, the concept has been popularized by many people – C Peter Wagner, Cindy Jacobs, Bill Johnson, Rick Joyner, etc., and the most well known teacher of this theory is Lance Wallnau. For more information, please refer to  7 Mountain – Dominion and New Apostolic Reformation Categories here on my blog.

As the quote above states  scheduled speakers, include Rick Warren, Roma Downey, and the Kindrick Brothers, combined with supporters such as TBN, CBN, Regent University. See here for a line up of speakers, and here for the detailed schedule.

We know from previous research that Rick Warren is heavily into supporting what he terms Chrislam, the combining of Christian beliefs with Islam. We are also aware of his peace plan which mirrors that of the United Nations and that his methods for promoting Christianity is far from scriptural as with everything else he does.

We know that Roma Downey is Catholic and her version of what she deems Christianity is much different from that of the bible. Yet she and her husband have made a name for themselves through the media and false teaching.

We know that the Kindrick Brothers create some great movies- but at the core they are based on emotionalism, which is of the flesh and their themes are grounded in word of faith teaching. Their last movie The War Room starred a woman who heavily promotes contemplative prayer, who isn’t even an actress. I will not discount the thought there is a deliberate connection between the two. Having been an “intercessor” with an organization which had a “war room” I can attest these ideas are rooted in pride. Yes, we are called to pray, but not in the way this movie and word of faith teaches. Please understand that there is a difference. Read a well-written and informative review of the movie here.

We know the organizations of Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) and Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN, 700 Club) both promote false prophets and teachers of charismania, word of faith, the supernatural of false dreams and visions, etc.

We know that we are warned in scripture to not do as the pagans or unbelievers and to not be like them and have discussed this point often in exposing false teachings and the practice of other religions as part of Christianity.

We know that in the end times there will be a joining together of religions and this is the main concern I have with these types of gatherings. As with this event we can clearly see this taking place. Many of us are already aware because of the deception going on inside churches and para-church organizations as we have witnessed our churches becoming something other than what they once were and our warnings to wake up go unheeded.

Aside from that is also the fact that this method of spreading the gospel is based on man-made effort of the world and not on the reliance of the Holy Spirit and spiritual gifts, the things that set us apart from the world.

Instead, we see some of the most well known and influential people deemed as Christians joining forces with the Hollywood movie and film industry. We should seriously stop and think about that last point because most everything coming out of Hollywood shows a vehement hate for God and Christianity as a whole. Do I also need to point out the horror stories of forced sex, rape and molestation that goes along with Hollywood careers of wanna-be and established actors and actresses?

So why do these “movers and shakers” of Christianity join forces with them? I believe we have already had that answer given to us which we should take great heed to understand – Matthew 24. I would find it safe, though very sad to say that most of the speakers and exhibitors listed in the links above no longer stand for Jesus Christ. This is why our care and concern is needed when one claims to come in the name of Jesus and offers to teach others. And yes, they will often give the basics of the gospel correctly, but it is what they do and say after those words that will tell whether they are truly of God. It is also defined in who they join forces with. These are areas that we need to pay close attention to. It is not enough that someone uses the name of Jesus.

What is the fruit? Is it money? Is it fame and fortune? I believe this to be the case for Proclaim 16, as I see it as a set up for what is coming on the earth. Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world (John 8:36 )! Why are they trying to make it as though it is?

Have nothing to do with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. Ephesians 5:11

 

 

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Echo Zoe Interviews Sandy Simpson

Wow! Lookie what I found! – 🙂

For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.2 Corinthians 11:13

Sandy Simpson, of the Apologetics Coordination Team, joins me to discuss the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). Sandy runs Deception in the Church, an extensive library of resources on the NAR and related movements and organizations.

Link to Echo Zoe  – article and podcast!

The Nefarious NARians

Romans 16:17 Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them.

18 For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech decieve the hearts of the simple.

Thanks again to Bud Press! 🙂

An Unhealthy Update on Peter and Doris Wagner
The nefarious NARians
by Bud Press
October 26, 2011

For decades, C. Peter Wagner and his wife Doris have led the New Apostolic Reformation in a worldwide campaign against the forces of darkness. At the same time, they have convinced untold thousands that performing spiritual warfare on demonic strongholds is a sure-fire remedy to rid cities, states, and global territories of those pesky critters.

The key, according to the nefarious NARians, is to identify the demonic big cheeses, map-out the strongholds where they do business, and raid their camps with NAR flags o’ victory waving in the breeze.

But the battle won’t be won until the New Apostolic Reformation reforms the minds of the innocent and gullible, and establishes complete “dominion” and “control” over the Christian church. Once this is done, NARians will elect their self-appointed apostolic government, and place their self-elected prophetic politicians in power to dominate and dictate. Then, when the planets are in perfect alignment, and all the heretic hunters have been silenced, the NAR will give its “Jesus” the green light to return, where it will teach good NARians to walk as robots through a field of tulips and sing Kum Bah Yah.

As the battle rages, what the Wagners and their fellow NARians fail to see is their focus is on demonic activity–instead of the real Jesus Christ and the truth of His written word. Concentrating on demons and their destruction gains more oppression from the one whose attempt to overthrow God got him and one third of his demonic angels bounced out of heaven on their forked tails.

Needless to say, sharing Jesus Christ and the gospel will, of course, lead more people to Christ than worrying about demons behind every tree in every city, state, and territory throughout the world.

Consequently, those who refuse to cooperate with the NARian agenda will, no doubt, suffer the consequences, and may be sentenced to eating stale popcorn while suffering through endless re-runs of Todd Bentley shaking, rattling, rolling, and kicking his way through the 2008 Lakeland revival. To add insult to injury, commercial breaks will feature a video of Jessa Bentley shaking her head fast enough to sling her eyeballs into the audience during a New Age mini-revival at Rick Joyner’s MorningStar church.

While the Wagners and the NARians toot their spiritual warfare trumpets and blow shouts of victory over their desensitized followers, their efforts to rid the world of demonic activity was, in reality, doomed before it began. G. Richard Fisher explains:
In 1990, the Spiritual Warfare Network (SWN) was formed by these new apostles and prophets. It is important to remember that they have had 20 years to reclaim ethnic groups, nations, and parcels of geography. So far, after two decades, they have made no progress at all. [“Mountains and Other Tall Tales: Examining the Fantasy World of Modern-day ‘Apostle and Prophet’ C. Peter Wagner,” The Quarterly Journal of Personal Freedom Outreach, October-December 2011, p. 8]
Continuing, Fisher states that, “After 20 years of selling their ideas, there is no proof of being able to take or reclaim territory from demons.” [Ibid., italics theirs]

Fisher is right on target. NARians travel the globe claiming to take “authority” over demonic activity. However, local, state, and world news report a much different story: Those pesky demons are still active and wreaking havoc.

Could it be that the NAR’s claims are without merit? Could it be that the New Apostolic Reformation–which is plagued with heretics, false prophets, and blasphemers–is overshadowed by demons, and is paving its dirt road for the antichrist?

Final answers? Yes, and Yes.

Simply put, crime is on the rise, and crime will continue to rise and become more sadistic until Jesus returns (study Matthew chapter 24 for details). Jesus didn’t mince words. He gave an outline of things to come. Later, the Holy Spirit inspired the apostles to issue warnings about things to come (study the Apostle Paul’s letters to Timothy).

Indeed, C. Peter Wagner needs to be asked, “Specifically, which city or state or territory has been cleaned and fumigated of all demonic activity?” If his answer is, “Gee, I don’t know,” then NARians everywhere should mentally delete Wagner’s “revelation knowledge,” gain knowledge from what God has already said in His written revelation, and consult Ephesians 6:13-18; Acts 19:13-16; Jude 1:9 and, 2 Corinthians 11:13-15, which specifically teaches:

For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.

The Apostle Paul wrote it, and the Holy Spirit inspired it. Welcome to the New Apostolic Reformation.

Therefore, as the kingdom of NARia continues its ill-fated battle against demonic activity, and as the NAR continues to gain converts, one battle the Wagners are facing is their declining health, which reads like a Who’s Who within the medical kingdom.

Signs, but no wonders

According to NARian-produced newsletters, updates, and prayer requests over this year, the Wagners have been under extensive medical care for a long period of time. Doris Wagner suffered from infectious diseases, placed on hyper-antibiotics, diagnosed with a heart tumor, and underwent operations on her knee. Currently, she is scheduled to undergo major knee surgery. C. Peter Wagner has a lingering cough, swelling in both legs and abdomen, problems with his heart, and has been placed on blood thinners. He is scheduled for cataract surgery in both eyes.

Like the average human being who reaches the elderly stage of life, Peter and Doris Wagner suffer from illnesses, diseases, and sicknesses. It’s a given. But, unlike the average human being, NARians think they are special, an attitude which is demonstrated by their exclusive, elitist mentality. After all, they are what makes up the “signs and wonders” movement, where almost everyone is said to operate in all of the spiritual gifts, including the gift of healing.

While there is no humor in human suffering, when the chips are down, where are all the NARian faith healers? Why haven’t they flocked to Peter and Doris’ side and demonstrated their gift of healing for the world to see?

Could it be that the “signs and wonders” movement is all signs and no wonders? Perish the thought. How dare anyone even suggest such a thing! Those who do could be accused of “attacking the anointed” and “judging falsely” and acting like a “Pharisee”.

Trail of lies

Common sense dictates that if just one NARian had the Biblical gift of healing, he or she would jump at the chance to lay hands on Doris and Peter, and heal them from head-to-toe through the power of God. Since “teleporting” here and there is part of the signs and wonders movement, travel expenses would be kept to a bare minimum.

But it ain’t gonna happen! Hyper-Charismatics who are caught up in the “signs and wonders” movement demonstrate plenty of signs, but they leave people wondering what the heck is going on. Simply put, they do not have the Biblical gift of healing. Again, they do not have the Biblical gift of healing. The sick and dying show up to be healed, and they leave unhealed.

Faith healers can’t heal Peter and Doris, and Peter and Doris can’t heal each other. Therefore, Peter and Doris are forced to turn to the field of medicine for their healing.

All liars know that a lie must be backed-up with another lie to cover the first lie. This is one reason why heretics and false healers spew excuses, play spin-doctor, intimidate their followers, issue threats, and exercise damage control over their own words–and their followers eat it up! One lie leads to another lie, until the liar gets so confused that he or she can’t recall the lies. It is then when the liar becomes a pathological liar.

Liars work hard to cover their lying tracks, but they always leave their getaway cars in the front yard.

Finally, this update on the unhealthy state of Peter and Doris Wagner would not be complete without leaving the reader an important, but ironic, point to ponder: during C. Peter Wagner’s tenure at the Wagner Leadership Institute, he taught a course on “Divine Healing”. The “Course Description” states,
This is a classic foundational class on divine healing. Topics include performing the works of Jesus, the role of faith in healing, ways in which one can verify miracles, healing as it relates to God’s kingdom, healing as part of the atonement, and the substance of the anointing. ( http://tinyurl.com/6838nat )
Is there something wrong with this picture? C. Peter Wagner taught courses on divine healing, but he doesn’t have the gift of healing. Hmmm, perhaps he should enroll in his own course.

Shout out to C. Peter Wagner: Instructor, instruct thyself. Stop leading the sick and dying astray, and stop instructing a course on a gift you never had in the first place. Better yet, repent, be born again, publicly renounce the NAR and its false “Jesus,” and warn your fellow NARians to do the same.

Indeed, precious souls for who Jesus Christ died for hang in the balance.

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness'” (Matthew 7:21-23).

More on C Peter Wagner’s Now Infamous Letter

In a recent letter, C Peter Wagner did a bit of lying about his own organization and its  heavy connection with American politics. After posting the letter I received some great comments (see the link above), and I put the matter aside (what’s new with this, nothing changes) but realized I was wrong in that wimpy thinking.

The following work is not my own, but I am bringing it to your attention because it needs to get out there as many times as we can get it out. Maybe someone caught up in the NAR/Self-Appointed Apostolic/False Prophetic/Imagined Strategic Spiritual Warfare/having the same power as God ~ manifesting false signs and wonders ~~that is Latter Rain/Dominion/Kingdom Now/7 Mountains from where we will rule America and the world will see the truth; maybe even Peter Wagner himself.

I am amazed at the work done by Orrel Steinkemp. I have found that in reading his articles I learn from his footnotes too! Here is a bit from a 2001 article of his debunking Wagner’s recent lie the NAR has no membership, and a little laying out of his plan 10 years ago to form the NAR!~

The Apostles Are Coming To Your City, Ready or Not
by Orell Steinkamp, The Plumbline, Vol. 6, No. 2, March/April 2001


In a previous issue of PLUMBLINE, I described the efforts of C. Peter Wagner to create a New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) which he predicts will be even greater in scope and significance than the Protestant Reformation of the 1500’s.  The centerpiece of the movement is the purported restoration, by God, of the NT office-gift of “Apostle’ to the end-time church.

Now Wagner and his apostolic buddies are attempting to move from vision to reality.  In an article titled, APOSTOLIC REFORMATION on his Website http://www.globalharvestministries.org he reveals moves that are currently underway, to implement his apostolic reformation.  In this article he restates the goals and also the preliminary means to implement them.

Goal:

Wagner asserts: NAR is an extra-ordinary work of God at the close of the 20th century that to a significant extent is changing the shape of Protestant Christianity around the world.  For almost 500 years Christian churches have largely functioned with traditional denominational structures of one kind or another.  Within this reformation, Wagner sees a growing recognition of present day apostolic ministries who are giving birth to their own family of leaders and churches to whom they have a relational commitment.  Within New Apostolic Christianity, this governmental authority is being exercised in the local church by the pastor and on a translocal level by apostles who operate with a relational authority.  Wagner sees what is happening in the NAR as key to world harvest.

Wagner sees apostles as being at the peak of their (own) networks and the people in their networks as accountable to them.  It is here in the article that the accountability of the apostles is addressed and Wagner begins to refer to the means of implementing the apostolic structure.

Implementation:

The New Apostolic Roundtable:

Wagner is personally involved in an accountability structure called the “New Apostolic Roundtable.” Twenty-five apostles were invited to join as members and they plan to meet together annually, the week after Easter.  Eventually, the names of the roundtable will be made public.

The International Coalition of Apostles:

Because this movement is growing so rapidly around the world, Wagner also sees a need for a larger kind of structure.  As a result he and a number of others have formed what they call the International Coalition of Apostles.  They have sent out their first invitations in January of this year and have just passed one hundred and fifty
members.  Wagner expects that they will ultimately attract from five hundred to one thousand members (solicited by invitation
only). They plan to hold an annual meeting along with occasional regional summits across America and around the world.

Link to continue reading

From here, and not for the first time, I highly recommend the many articles offered by Herescope. This is a good one in the series to start with – C Peter Wagner Spins the NAR.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

C Peter Wagner in His Own Defense

Some time back I was hit with quite a bit more traffic than usual and was able to trace it back to an online magazine called Al Jezeera. There I found an interesting article regarding Rick Perry and the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). The reason for my traffic was a link AJ made to one of the articles on my blog. So, it was with great interest that I just happened to find the following info in a google search!  Thought you’d like to see it for yourselves if you haven’t already.

C. Peter Wagner is speaking out against those who revealed what he stands for; dominionism, taking biblical control of the world by force via the seven mountains of influence, and the joining of the NAR to political America.

Volumes have been written already in exposing the false doctrine of the NAR, the organization behind what has become to be considered mainline Christianity. While some of the things that are said up front sound right, a close study of the bible and a comparison to God’s word with Wagner’s books reveal a completely different doctrine. I consider his teachings and all of the NAR activity to be doctrine of demons. (if you are one of his followers, please do some prayerful research!)

Wagner also did a bit of back-peddling after endorsing the apostate preacher Todd Bentley during the Lakeland fiasco, once it was found to be exactly that – a fiasco.

Earlier, a fellow blogger pointed out that the previously published NAR – Apostle/Prophet list I linked to another article here on my blog had disappeared. This was a handy link to have as it made it quite easy to find out if those we trust and take our doctrine from were part of the NAR. My search to find an updated copy revealed that the list is now only available to members!  See here – International Coalition of Apostles.

What could they be hiding? Maybe there is something to the fact that Chuck Pierce held some meetings last year in a Masonic Temple…Secret Societies.

Read on...I’d love your input!

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THE NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION

An Update by C. Peter Wagner, Ph.D.

THE NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION

August 18,2011

Surprisingly, the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) has recently become a topic of discussion in the political media. I noticed some mention of it in connection with Sarah Palin’s run for Vice-President, but I considered it relatively insignificant. Then more talk of the NAR surfaced around Michelle Bachman, but it soared to a new level when Rick Perry entered the race for the Republican nomination for President in August. The best I can discern, the NAR has become a tool in the hands of certain liberal opponents of the conservative candidates designed to discredit them on the basis of their friendship with certain Christian leaders supposedly affiliated with the NAR. To bolster this attempt, they seek to accuse the NAR of teaching false doctrine and paste on it the label of “cult.” For example, Forgotten Word Ministries posts an article by Marsha West expressing concerns about Rick Perry’s prayer assembly in Houston on August 6, that uses the title: “Texas Governor’s Upcoming Leadership Event Includes Cult Members.”[1]

Soon after the event, nothing less than Al Jazeera News picked up on the theme and posted an article on the NAR under the title “America’s own Taliban.” My name comes up in most of the Internet postings on NAR, but in this one I am called the “intellectual godfather” of the movement.[2] When I read that, I felt that I had a responsibility to attempt to bring some clarification as to what the NAR is, what are its goals, and how these goals are being implemented. That is why I am writing this brief paper.

What Is the NAR?

The NAR is definitely not a cult. Those who affiliate with it believe the Apostles’ Creed and all the standard classic statements of Christian doctrine. It will surprise some to know that the NAR embraces the largest non-Catholic segment of world Christianity. It is also the fastest growing segment, the only segment of Christianity currently growing faster than the world population and faster than Islam.[3] Christianity is booming now in the Global South which includes sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America, and large parts of Asia. Most of the new churches in the Global South, even including many which belong to denominations, would comfortably fit the NAR template.

The NAR represents the most radical change in the way of doing church since the Protestant Reformation. This is not a doctrinal change. We adhere to the major tenets of the Reformation: the authority of Scripture, justification by faith, and the priesthood of all believers. But the quality of church life, the governance of the church, the worship, the theology of prayer, the missional goals, the optimistic vision for the future, and other features, constitute quite a change from traditional Protestantism.

The NAR is not an organization. No one can join or carry a card. It has no leader. I have been called the “founder,” but this is not the case. One reason I might be seen as an “intellectual godfather” is that I might have been the first to observe the movement, give a name to it, and describe its characteristics as I saw them. When this began to come together through my research in 1993, I was Professor of Church Growth at Fuller Theological Seminary, where I taught for 30 years. The roots of the NAR go back to the beginning of the African Independent Church Movement in 1900, the Chinese House Church Movement beginning in 1976, the U.S. Independent Charismatic Movement beginning in the 1970s and the Latin American Grassroots Church Movement beginning around the same time. I was neither the founder nor a member of any of these movements, I was simply a professor who observed that they were the fastest growing churches in their respective regions and that they had a number of common characteristics.

If I was going to write about this phenomenal move of the Holy Spirit, I knew I had to give it a name. I tried “Postdenominational” but soon dropped it because of the objections of many of my friends who were denominational executives. Then, in 1994, I tested “New Apostolic Reformation.” “Reformation” because the movement matched the Protestant Reformation in world impact; “Apostolic” because of all the changes the most radical one was apostolic governance, which I’ll explain in due time; and “New” because several churches and denominations already carried the name “apostolic,” but they did not fit the NAR pattern. Other names of this movement which are more or less synonymous with NAR have been “Neopentecostal,” “Neocharismatic,” “Independent,” or “Nondenominational.”

I am rather fascinated at the lists of individuals whom the media glibly connects with the NAR. I’m sure that some of them wouldn’t even recognize the term. In many cases, however, they would fit the NAR template, but since the NAR has no membership list they themselves would need to say whether they consider themselves affiliated or not.

For those who might be interested in such things, the books I have written related to NAR include The New Apostolic Churches (1998); Churchquake! (1999); Apostles and Prophets (2000), Changing Church (2004); and Apostles Today (2006). These are all available on amazon.com.

Concerns about the NAR

If the critics are using openness to NAR as a slur against conservative political candidates, they obviously need to verbalize what could be wrong with NAR in the first place. To suppose that NAR is a “cult” or that it teaches “heresy” can be attributed only to sloppy or immature journalism. All too often “heresy” has come to mean only that the person disagrees with me and my friends, but the purpose of using the word is to project guilt by association on the politician. It attempts to implant a question: Who would vote for a heretic? But there is little evidence presented that the issue in question incorporates the doctrinal unorthodoxy of a true heresy. Instead, key words are usually dropped which describe legitimate areas of disagreement among Christian theologians on the level of whether or not we baptize infants. Neither of the opposite positions on matters like this deserve to be placed in the category of heresy.

Let me review the media pieces I have collected and pick out some key words in order to clarify my position. I say “my position,” because others in NAR might not agree with me, and they are not compelled to do so. NAR has no official statements of theology or ecclesiology, although a large number of us do happen to agree upon many somewhat radical conclusions. Most of us have long track records of service within traditional Christianity, and we have needed to go through paradigm shifts to get where we are now. Keep in mind that one of the affects of every paradigm shift is that some people get pulled out of their comfort zones. One of the reasons for opposition to some of the more radical ideas of NAR is that certain people have decided not to change and they are upset with those who have chosen to change.
Apostolic governance.As I mentioned before, this is probably the most radical change. I take literally St. Paul’s words that Jesus, at His ascension into heaven, “gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry” (Ephesians 4:11-12). Most of traditional Christianity accepts evangelists, pastors, and teachers, but not apostles and prophets. I think that all five are given to be active in churches today. In fact, St. Paul goes on to say, “And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers…” (1 Corinthians 12:28). This does not describe a hierarchy, but a divine order. Apostles are first in that order.
I strongly object to journalists using the adjective “self-appointed” or “self-declared” when referring to apostles. No true apostle is self-appointed. First of all, they are gifted by God for that ministry. Secondly, the gift and its fruit are recognized by peers and the apostle is “set in” or “commissioned” to the office of apostle by other respected and qualified leaders.

The office of prophet. Prophets are prominent in the Bible, both in the Old Testament and in the New Testament. As we just saw above, apostles are first and prophets are second. Every apostle needs alignment with prophets and every prophet needs apostolic alignment. One of the reasons why both should be active in our churches today is that the Bible says, “Surely God does nothing unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets” (Amos 3:7). And also: “Believe in the Lord your God and you shall be established; believe His prophets and you shall prosper” (2 Chronicles 20:20). I want to prosper and I want you to prosper.

Dominionism. This refers to the desire that some of my friends and I have to follow Jesus and do what He wants. One of the things He does want He taught us to pray for in the Lord’s Prayer: “Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.” This means that we do our best to see that what we know is characteristic of heaven work its way into the warp and woof of our society here on earth. Think of heaven: no injustice, no poverty, righteousness, peace, prosperity, no disease, love, no corruption, no crime, no misery, no racism, and I could go on. Wouldn’t you like your city to display those characteristics?

But where does dominion come in? On the first page of the Bible, God told Adam and Eve to “fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, etc.” (Genesis 1:28). Adam, Eve, and the whole human race were to take dominion over the rest of creation, but Satan entered the picture, succeeded in usurping Adam’s dominion for himself and became what Jesus calls “the ruler of this world” (John 14:30). When Jesus came, he brought the kingdom of God and He expects His kingdom-minded people to take whatever action is needed to push back the long-standing kingdom of Satan and bring the peace and prosperity of His kingdom here on earth. This is what we mean by dominionism.

A theocracy. The usual meaning of theocracy is that a nation is run by authorized representatives of the church or its functional religious equivalent. Everyone I know in NAR would absolutely reject this idea, thinking back to Constantine’s failed experiment or some of the oppressive Islamic governments today. The way to achieve dominion is not to become “America’s Taliban,” but rather to have kingdom-minded people in every one of the Seven Mountains: Religion, Family, Education, Government, Media, Arts & Entertainment, and Business so that they can use their influence to create an environment in which the blessings and prosperity of the Kingdom of God can permeate all areas of society.

Extra-biblical revelation. Some object to the notion that God communicates directly with us, supposing that everything that God wanted to reveal He revealed in the Bible. This cannot be true, however, because there is nothing in the Bible that says it has 66 books. It actually took God a couple of hundred years to reveal to the church which writings should be included in the Bible and which should not. That is extra-biblical revelation. Even so, Catholics and Protestants still disagree on the number. Beyond that, I believe that prayer is two way, we speak to God and expect Him to speak with us. We can hear God’s voice. He also reveals new things to prophets as we have seen. The one major rule governing any new revelation from God is that it cannot contradict what has already been written in the Bible. It may supplement it, however.

Supernatural signs and wonders. I have a hard time understanding why some include this in their list of “heresies.” Whenever Jesus sent out His disciples he told them to heal the sick and cast out demons. Why we should expect that He has anything else in mind for us today is puzzling. True, this still pulls some traditionalists out of their comfort zones, but that just goes with the territory. One critic claimed that the NAR has excessive fixation on Satan and demonic spirits. This is purely a judgment call, and it may only mean that we cast out more demons than they do. So what?

Relational Structures

Some of the authors I read expressed certain frustrations because they found it difficult to get their arms around the NAR. They couldn’t find a top leader or even a leadership team. There was no newsletter. The NAR didn’t have an annual meeting. There was no printed doctrinal statement or code of ethics. This was very different from dealing with traditional denominations. The reason behind this is that, whereas denominations are legal structures, the NAR is a relational structure. Everyone is related to, or aligned, with an apostle or apostles. This alignment is voluntary. There is no legal tie that binds it. In fact, some have dual alignment or multiple alignment. Apostles are not in competition with each other, they are in cahoots. They do not seek the best for themselves, but for those who choose to align with them. If the spotlight comes on them, they will accept it, but they do not seek it.

The key to this? The mutual and overriding desire that “Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven!”

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[1]http://www.forgottenword.org/leadershipevent.html

[2]http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/07/20117259426336524.html

[3]David B. Barrett, et. al.,  eds., World Christian Encyclopedia,, Volume 1, Oxford UK: Oxford University Press, 2001, p. 4

Mike Huckabee Another Wannabee

Forced at gunpoint, huh? Not biblical, not American. I can’t believe this has come out of a man who used to preach the truth. (Assuming what he preached was the truth!)

Now he’s just rubbin’ elbows and doin’ the good – ol’ – buddy punch with those who will help him get to where he wants. It is a sad day when preachers swap the pulpit for a shot at the White House. It’s even worse when they manipulate their way up.

I’m thinking NAR….7 Mountains…

Pull the trig, I won’t listen.

NAR Awakening for the Northwest

Here is a video clip from Dutch Sheets supporting the upcoming conference “Reclaiming the Heart of a Nation” later this month in Seattle, WA

Regional Congress on Reformation.

Following is a partial transcript which reveals the intentions of the New Apostolic Reformation to “bring reformation to America by changing the way the people think”. Salvation is not enough! They now need divine strategy! One of the speakers of this conference is the famed teacher of the seven mountains, Lance Wallnau. So when Dutch calls for strategy he is looking for a plan on how to better implement the governing of the seven mountains.

As you read through these words you will recognize a dividing line between true Christianity aka the teachings of scripture, and the intentions of the false apostles and prophets of the NAR or as it can be also called, the voice of God, which further promotes what is referred to as Dominionism.

(I’m in blue.)

Dutch Sheets: I heard a frightening statistic lately. At that is 96 percent of those who call themselves born again Christians do not have a biblical worldview. That means they do not believe in the basics of scripture.

When the NAR starts talking about a biblical worldview it only reinforces my disbelief that there is biblical truth behind the phrase itself.

How did we go through a revival of the magnitude of the Charismatic movement, the Jesus movement, the Apostolic movement, the prophetic movement, the prayer movements, the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s? God was doing great things in America. How do you go through that and lose ground in the culture of a nation?

First of all these “movements” were made up of false doctrine – scriptures taken out of context with emphasis on visitations, “hearing the voice of God”, and false signs and wonders. An unbiblical re-formation of the five fold ministry with emphasis on self-appointed apostles and prophets, hence the birth of the NAR. False teachers and prophets make a false movement and in their case it has been one after another producing no true FRUIT. This is how I would answer Dutch’s question.

Secondly, America is not covenanted with God in the same way He covenanted with Israel. Many people miss this. America was founded by some who were believers, but others were not. And research proves that many of the “founding fathers” who the NAR is so in love with were actually Freemasons and Universalists.

Third, the NARites believe as Dutch has stated that America is losing its biblical culture that it once had. Have they not read that the world will get worse until the time of the return of Christ – as in the days of Noah?

And listen, when you lose ground in the culture of a nation even the fruit that you made on an individual level will dissipate because you’re not changing the way people think.

Change the way people think. You will hear this a few more times. It makes me wonder how far they are willing to go in the future to accomplish control of the human mind.

We must have this great outpouring of the Holy Spirit that has now begun and will intensify and I believe before it is over it will be called the third great awakening in America.

This is the “Latter Rain” heresy which claims an “outpouring of the Holy Spirit” and resulted from a misapplied understanding of the last days described in Acts 2:17 and Joel 2:28.

This is one thing Jesus had to say to His disciples about the Holy Spirit. Notice there is nothing about an outpouring. John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

Basic doctrine is God the Father, revealed through Jesus Christ, Immanuel (God with us) who gave us His Holy Spirit so that we would not be alone.

But this time we must do more than get them saved, filled with the spirit and healed. We must change the thinking of a nation. We must do what Jesus said in Matthew 28 disciple the nation. That’s reformation.

Let’s stop right here for Matthew 28 because Dutch is referring to what we know as the Great Commission of Jesus.

18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19Go thereforeand make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

Jesus said to teach them all things He commanded. The false teaching of the NAR is not the same as the teachings of Jesus Christ written in the bible. There is no getting around that fact. At the beginning of the transcript Dutch claimed that many do not know the basics of scripture. He needs to include himself in that count.

This time we must do more than get them saved. We must reform the way they think. How do you do that? I don’t think anyone right now has all the answers, most Christians have no answers. We do not think this way. But we must. We must now begin to plan and ask God for strategy how do we reform America.

I believe our “answers” are found in the bible! To say that most Christians have no answers is ridiculous. They want us to believe that is true and that they are the ones who will plug-in and hear from God on our behalf  providing us instruction on how to “reform America”.

To change the way we think, we go to the teachings of scripture to learn to renew our minds as in Romans 12:2!

That’s what this conference is all about. In the evenings we’re going to have outpourings. We’re gonna stir up the gifts of the spirit, we’re gonna stir up  the spirit of awakening. We’re gonna pray together and release a greater spirit of awakening over the northwest region.

Listen – OUTPOURINGS. Remember Bentley? That’s his word and his move!

What is a “spirit of awakening”? If these men and women of the NAR would teach the bible as it is written maybe we would see a change in the hearts of men and women as they repent in need of the Savior. But calling for a spirit of this or that is not going to change anything, except possibly the condition of their vocal chords the next morning.

Some of us have been crying out for strategy. How do we reform? What are strategies to change media, education. We know now we need to do it; we’ve heard of the seven mountains. I believe God is about to give us that strategy. We’re gonna hear from God on how to do this. Come. Let’s find some answers. Lets be ready this time when the outpouring comes and we know what to do with it and shift the thinking of America. Let’s learn how to reform America. We’re gonna hear from heaven.

There it is – strategy for the seven mountains mandate – the plan to take over society for what they believe is their high calling of God.

This is not Jesus, this is not the Kingdom of God that was preached by Him! This is man’s kingdom and possibly the kingdom of the anti-christ. Whoever it is that will be speaking from “heaven” will not be the Most High God. The reason why we know this will not be Him is because nothing like the seven mountain mandate is written in the scriptures. People get ready.

I am also in the northwest and have begun to pray against this crazy conference that people would see the truth and turn from the teachings of the NAR! If we have questions, if we need answers we turn to the bible.

I have a deep fear that there very well may be another awakening when these people stand before God and realize that all they peddled and pushed to so many had nothing at all to do with His plan. And that the “voice” they heard from heaven was not His voice at all.

Other articles regarding Dutch Sheets –

The Alignment of Political America and the NAR

A Word Against the Wilderness Outcry

Dominion and the Rule of Adam

When Adam sinned at “the fall”, he handed his dominion and his power to rule the earth over to Satan.

This is the claim made by Dominion and Kingdom Now doctrine supported by the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)/Word of Faith teachings.

Is it true? I’ve thought about this quite a bit since it was brought to my attention. I’ve heard this claim by Cal Pierce, International Association of Healing Rooms; Bill Johnson, Bethel; and Cindy Jacobs, Generals International. I am sure there are others who teach it. So, I’ve considered it, read commentaries and searched the word.

It is important for us to understand the rule Adam was given, and the extent of his dominion given to him by God.

The rule of Adam-

Genesis 1:26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth”. 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created them. 28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Clearly, the dominion given to man is over the fish, the birds, the cattle, things that creep; everything that moves.

Genesis 2:7-8 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. 8 The Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there He put the man who He had formed.

v15 Then the Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 but the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

So we have the creation of Adam, his placement in the garden of Eden and his work to tend and keep it. In addition is the command from the Lord God all the trees he may eat of, and the one tree he could not, along with the dire consequences if he so chose.

Notice there is no mention of spiritual authority or rule given to Adam. There was no need for it as the Lord God walked with Adam in the garden during the cool of the day. (3:8)

Genesis 2:18 And the Lord God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.” 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name.

God brought the animals before Adam so that he could name them.

v 21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh in its place. 22 Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from the man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.

So, the creation of Eve, although not yet so named.

Adam does not create or declare or decree anything. He speaks nothing into existence. He was created by God, as was Eve, and given rule over the living things on the earth.  The word is very clear on Who the Creator is, and who is the created. Adam and Eve were simply gardeners in a very beautiful place, having a face to face relationship with their God who created them. I doubt they had much confusion on that issue. The main point here  –  relationship with God – let’s not miss out on that.

In Chapter 3 is the very sad deception of the serpent and the fall of mankind. The serpent, Satan, already a known usurper and deceiver to the Lord.

Isaiah 14:12-15 How you are fallen from the heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!  How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! 13For you have said in your heart; ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation, on the farthest sides of the north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High’. 15 Yet, you shall be brought down to Sheol, to the lowest depths of the Pit.

Luke 10:18 And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightening from heaven”.

Now, I am not sure when exactly Satan was kicked out of heaven. I don’t know if anyone has that answer, whether it was before the creation of man, or after. The point is, he was kicked out and is now a fallen being.

John 8:44 “You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do.  He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.

I will leave you to read Genesis 3 on your own as I will only pull out pertinent verses to make the point.

3:14 So the Lord God said to the serpent” Because you have done this, you are cursed more than all cattle, and more than every beast of the field; On your belly you shall go, and you shall eat dust all the days of your life. 15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.

You will notice in the verses prior, God calls out to Adam and asks him what he has done. This is not the case with the serpent as God did not call to him, or question him, He simply imposed the curse —done. Verse 15 is the first prophecy for the Messiah, Jesus Christ. Even then, God had prepared a way for us to resume our relationship with Him.

Verse 16 is the curse on the woman which I won’t go into.

Verse 17 Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’ : Cursed is the ground for your sake; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life. 18 Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you, and you shall eat the herb of the field. 19 In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you shall return.

In verse 24 God drove Adam and Eve out from the garden.

There is no swapping of power or dominion or rule from Adam to Satan. The dominion over the fish, the birds, the animals, etc. was given to Adam by God while he lived in the garden. When he sinned he was stripped of his rule and his dominion in the same way Lucifer was stripped of his place in the heavens at the time of his fall when he claimed to ascend the throne of the Most High.

Adam possessed the dominion and rule that was given to him by God, nothing more. He had no authority to give it away. I find it hard to believe he would hand it over to the evil, fallen being that he himself had fallen prey to. For Adam to do such a thing would seem he would have been in agreement with Satan.

Notice also God did not hand dominion over to Satan! We have a fallen state of creation, man and beast. Satan has been given permission to deceive and to wander throughout the earth. While the earth and all in it may be under the sway of the evil one, he is a liar and the father of lies, even his authority is limited.

As there is no basis for a “dominion hand over” found in scripture, we must question where this very popular teaching originated. If not from scripture, where? And that being the case, why do so many continue to be deceived by it?

It stands to reason those following the NAR and the teachings of the seven mountains prophecy buy into this as it gives them reason to “take dominion of the earth” from the very hands of satan. It must provide them a place of great power and authority to believe they can accomplish such a thing.

Finally Found! The Roots of the Seven Mountains Mandate

I’ve been wondering for a very long time where the teaching of the “Seven Mountains” came from. Because I first heard it from the original NAR group – Peter Wagner, Chuck Pierce and Cindy Jacobs I thought maybe it was Peter Wagner.  Over the last few years I’ve watched Lance Wallnau become quite a well-known teacher on this topic although I have never sat and listened to him for very long. So, while I have been aware of this  – prophecy-mandate-movement-doctrine – I’ve never understood exactly from where it originated. And you know me, I like to know the roots of stuff.

This end times “take dominion over the earth” is taught by a large group all over the world, namely the NAR, and you have heard it referred to as domininon theology or kingdom now theology. Even after all my reading and research I continued to wonder where the teaching originated. Recently I came across an interview of Loren Cunnngham, Youth With A Mission (YWAM) and realized I finally found the roots. (yay!)

Following is a clip from the transcript of an interview with Loren Cunningham;  its entirety can be found here Reclaiming the Seven Mountains of Culture.

It was August, 1975.  My family and I were up in a little cabin in Colorado.  And the Lord had given me that day a list of things I had never thought about before.  He said “This is the way to reach America and nations for God.  And {He said}, “You have to see them like classrooms or like places that were already there, and go into them with those who are already working in those areas.”  And I call them “mind-molders” or “spheres”.  I got the word “spheres” from II Corinthians 10 where Paul speaks in the New American Standard about the “spheres” he had been called into.  And with these spheres there were seven of them, and I’ll get to those in a moment.  But it was a little later that day, the ranger came up, and he said, “There is a phone call for you back at the ranger’s station.”    So I went back down, about 7 miles, and took the call.  It was a mutual friend who said, “Bill Bright and Vonnette are in Colorado at the same time as you are.  Would you and Darlene come over and meet with them? They would love to meet with you.”  So we flew over to Boulder on a private plane of a friend of ours.  And as we came in and greeted each other, {we were friends for quite a while}, and I was reaching for my yellow paper that I had written on the day before.  And he said, “Loren, I want to show you what God has shown me!” And it was virtually the same list that God had given me the day before.  Three weeks later, my wife Darlene had seen Dr. Francis Shaffer on TV and he had the same list!  And so I realized that this was for the body of Christ.

So, according to Loren’s account, the three of them received a message and concluded it was from God. Even after finding the scripture referred to as 2 Corinthians 10 I don’t see a connection to what Paul was speaking of in the scripture beginning in verse 13. See here –

13 We, however, will not boast beyond measure, but within the limits of the sphere which God appointed us—a sphere which especially includes you. 14 For we are not overextending ourselves (as though our authority did not extend to you), for it was to you that we came with the gospel of Christ; 15 not boasting of things beyond measure, that is, in other men’s labors, but having hope, that as your faith is increased, we shall be greatly enlarged by you in our sphere, 16 to preach the gospel in the regions beyond you, and not to boast in another man’s sphere of accomplishment.

Spheres, not mountains and a sphere which is round could never become a mountain which is not. So – word games? bad geometry? But in the context – the meeeeeannnninnnng – which to the best of my understanding as used here is region or area of influence where the gospel was, is and will be preached in making reference to his apostolic authority where the Lord has led him to preach it.  (There’s more going on in this chapter, but I don’t see the need to address it now. Feel free to hash it later on.)

To continue the transcript (emphasis mine):

I gave it for the first time in Hamburg, Germany at the big cathedral there to a group of hundreds of young people that had gathered at that time. And I said, “These are the areas that you can go into as missionaries.  Here they are: First, it’s the institution set up by God first, the family.  After the family was church, or the people of God.  The third was the area of school, or education. The fourth was media, public communication, in all forms, printed and electronic.  The fifth was what I call “celebration”, the arts, entertainment, and sports, where you celebrate within a culture.  The sixth would be the whole area of the economy, which starts with innovations in science and technology, productivity, sales, and service.  The whole area we often call it business but we leave out sometimes the scientific part, which actually raises the wealth of the world.  Anything new, like making sand into chips for a microchip, that increases wealth in the world.  And then of course prediction sales and service helps to spread the wealth.  And so the last was the area of government.  Now government, the Bible shows in Isaiah 33 verse 22 that there are three branches of government, so it’s all of the three branches:  judicial, legislative, and executive.  And then there are subgroups under all of those seven groups.  And there are literally thousands upon thousands of sub-groups.  But those seven can be considered like Caleb:  “Give me this mountain,” and they can be a “mountain” to achieve for God.

Notice, Loren began this segment of the story stating “I said” not “God said”.  And to young people – YOUNG PEOPLE! Again, referring to the scripture in 2 Corinthians 10 Paul mentions nothing of the seven mountains which are: Family, Religion, Government, Arts/Entertainment (not to forget someone recently added sports to that mountain), Media, Education and Economy/Business. So, how is it these men can conclude this is a message from God to be preached, taught and utilized by all believers?

And just as a side note and because I cannot let this go, Loren claimed the government as shown in Isaiah 33 v 22. My NKJV reads- (For the Lord is our Lawgiver, The Lord is our King; He will save us)  Nothing said, or inferred, as far as I can see about government! Maybe it’s a typo on their end, but where’s the credibility here???

Here is a short video supporting the Seven Mountains Mandate by Os Hillman

Notice the emphasis placed on the mountain that will bring in the cash needed to carry out this mandate which is also necessary for the success of the other mountains. To them, nothing can be accomplished without that money. They saved this particular mountain until toward the end of the video because it is the most important and they want that remembered just as in Loren’s story. Was this the message of Christ?

Mark 6:7-9 –7 And He called the twelve to Himself, and began to send them out two by two, and gave them power over unclean spirits. 8 He commanded them to take nothing for the journey except a staff—no bag, no bread, no copper in their money belts9 but to wear sandals, and not to put on two tunics.

Mark 10:23  Then Jesus looked around and said to His disciples, “How hard it is for those who have riches to enter the kingdom of God!”

Jesus never emphasised the need for money in preaching the gospel, in sending His own out or even in their day to day affairs. Its like He knew whatever the need it would be provided. Hmmm..

Matthew 6:31-33 31 “Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.

If you follow this Seven Mountain mandate you will be taken on a quest to become educated and work to achieve a place of promised authority and power in your “mountain”. Instead you will find yourself in a place in which you become subject to the leadership and rule of a false apostle and prophet. We are supposed to be light to the lost but in proper context.  Why would God instruct anyone to take over these spheres or mountains and build a kingdom here on earth when Jesus stated His kingdom was not of this world? Why would He give messages to build and  take over society that He intends on destroying at the end of time? Why would He direct people to devise ways to gain cash when He showed such little interest in it among His own? He would not. It is that simple.

From where you are at, preach the gospel to those around you, praying for their salvation, and yes, go out as a missionary if you are called to it! Until Christ returns His kingdom is a spiritual one here on earth. We are joined by our faith and are like-minded through the clear and simple teachings of the word of God, for this is our unity. And we are led by the Spirit of God in all things.

Blessed be His name.

around and around the seven mountains we go


Pray and A.C.T.

And so we have yet another gathering of Catholics and Evangelicals, (ala Bill Bright’s unity theory) joining  with false prophets, teachers and politicians to fast and pray. The prayer and fasting for 40 days and 40 nights will be in large gathering places and broadcast on notGodtv (false prophet Wendy Alec supported and broadcast Bentley’s “Outpouring”).  Once again an attempt is being made to turn America back to its Godly covenental roots/heritage/destiny. (See link above.)

Lou Engle believes that because God performed various things in 40 days or 40 years that there is a correlation between the 1960’s and this year, as there is a span of 40 years in between. (Actually, they started harping on this in 2008 because that marked a 40 year period since the “summer of love” in 1968.  Well, the 40 year period has come and gone 2 years ago by my calculation. It didn’t work. But, it’s kinda sorta still 40 years, so why not keep on it, right?) It is a grave mistake to expect God to perform in a way that is against His plan or will. Irreprerable damage has been done to the faith – believers, ministires, churches and families – out of man’s expectation or imagination of “what God is doing now”.

Engle thinks our country has been in a downfall since the 60’s. Well, I have news Lou, sin existed way before that, it just became more open and free. People did drugs and had sex and were slothful way before 1968. They were just more inclined to do it behind closed doors. Besides, shortly after the beginning there was a garden…

Listen, prayer and voting are very good things and we should make our requests known to God and voice our opinions and expectations of our leaders who are in fact servants of the people. To this I will add most of them have forgotten that! But this group of people are not following the way of the Lord in dilligently seeking Him and His ways. They twist the bible to say what they want it to, they prophecy false words and mislead untold numbers. That is not a good thing for anyone regardless of the good intentions they may have or seem to have.

Jim Garlow, Chuck Colson, Mike Huckabee and Lou Engle joining forces…

Friends, we as a nation will now determine which way the door will swing.  We face unprecedented challenges to three foundational principles of justice and the common good:

  • The sanctity of human life in all stages and conditions
  • The sacredness of marriage as the covenantal union of husband and wife
  • The right to religious liberty and respect for conscience

These principles are moral treasures of our civilization.  They have played indispensable roles in preserving the great experiment in republican government and ordered liberty bequeathed to us by the Founders of our Nation.

We must work tireless in all the “seven spheres of cultural influence:” (1) the home, (2) the church, (3) civil government / law / military, (4) business / technology, (5) education, (6) media, and finally (7) arts / entertainment / professional sports.

(I hadn’t realized those three items were a part of a great experiment. I thought they were given to us by God – to not murder is a commandment, marriage is between husband and wife only, and yes, America does provide the freedom to worship …but to say these are experiments…hmmm

Seven spheres means the seven mountains which spells dominionism…and you know what that means…the NAR is here again. AND see how they carved out “professional sports”. Where would America BE without football, baseball, basketball and hockey?)

Yes, yes this is all tied in with the Manhattan Declaration which they are asking all participants to sign.

Here’s the cast list:

Che Ahn, Harvest International Ministry

Vonette Bright, Co-Founder, Campus Crusade for Christ International

Bishop Keith Butler, Founding Pastor, Word of Faith International Christian Center

Jim Daly, President & CEO, Focus on the Family

Lou Engle, TheCall to Conscience, TheCall

Father Joseph Fessio, Editor in Chief, Ignatius Press, San Francisco

Maggie Gallagher, National Organization for Marriage

Professor Robert George, Princeton University

Professor Timothy George, Dean, Beeson Divinity School

Jack Hayford, Founder and Chancellor, The King’s College and Seminary

Mike Huckabee, Former Governor of Arkansas & Host, The Mike Huckabee Show

Bishop Harry Jackson, Jr., High Impact Leadership Coalition

Cindy Jacobs, Generals International

Alveda King, Silent No More Awareness Campaign

Richard Land, The Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission

Ron Luce, Founder, Teen Mania & Battle Cry

Bishop Richard Malone, Roman Catholic Diocese of Portland (Maine)

Eva Muntean & Dolores Meehan, Co-Founders, West Coast Walk for Life, San Francisco

Penny Nance, Concerned Women for America

Tony Perkins, Family Research Council

James Robison, Life Outreach International

Samuel Rodriguez, National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference

Alan Sears, Alliance Defense Fund

Chuck Stetson, Let’s Strengthen Marriage Campaign

Steve Strang, Publisher, Charisma magazine

Tim Wildmon, American Family Association

Jay Richards, Senior Fellow, Discovery Institute

I believe we would have much more success in turning this nation if people who claimed to stand for God would simply preach the gospel. Change can only happen through repentance and in following Christ. He is the only one who can change a heart. When the heart is changed so are decisions. Fasting and prayer alone will not do the job, not to mention the fact that Jesus warned against public and repetitive prayer and fasting. God gives everyone a free will to make their own life choices and He will not violate that free will regardless of all the prayers for Him to do so. It is only through Christ that we are free.

So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17

I didn’t want to spend a whole lot of writing on this as I’ve already done that in other articles although there is a lot going on here. It’s mostly just a head’s up to what is taking place and who again is joining forces in false doctrine. Remember dominionism taught by the NAR is a false doctrine that teaches believers Christ cannot return until they take the world over (take dominion) for His kingdom. This is accomplished using their gifts through the seven mountains of influence. There is no truth in their doctrine which truly denies the supremacy of Christ.

Pray for those who are caught up in this dangerous false teaching and blinded from seeing the truth.


More reading:

NAR

Prayer Rally

Lou Engle

Cindy Jacobs

James Dobson

Ron Luce