The Alignment of Political America and the NAR

I’ve been watching and writing about the heretical teachings of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) for a few months, not being sure why it seemed to be so important to do so. I don’t have a lot of experience with them because I never really “got” Chuck Pierce at all. However, there are some other prophets and apostles in this madhouse that I did follow (Cal Pierce, Cindy Jacobs, Dutch Sheets) and I guess that was enough for the Lord to impress on me the need for exposure.

Last night I began to come across some very good information offered by organizations who have researched the NAR much longer than I have. I am stunned to see the newly formed connection between political America and the demonic agenda of the NAR. No longer can it be confined only to a strange few. Follow the links I posted below – read and listen with great care. Yes, it will take some time as there is a lot of information. But, so important. You will see the connection between C Peter Wagner’s NAR and some of our government officials under the guise of patriotism and Godly values. It is time for great concern for those who will not join this movement, this building of a whole new “kingdom”.  Suddenly I understand the comments I read by those who were greatly concerned about Wilderness Outcry. What will this lead to? Are we ready to stand?

Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, and present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, to God our Savior Who alone is wise, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and forever. Amen. Jude 24-25

Apprising Ministries -Mayday and the New Apostolic Reformation

In response to the May Day event held this past Saturday at the Lincoln Memorial, Ingrid (Schlueter) and Sarah (Leslie) brought to listener attention a movement known as the New Apostolic Reformation. This title was coined by C. Peter Wagner during the 1990’s.

Featuring teachers such as Dutch Sheets, Cindy Jacobs and false prophetess Stacy Campbell, the New Apostolic Reformation is centered around a theology of dominionism. It teaches that Christians can take down demonic spirits in order to take back territories and institutions for Christ. The movement is post-millennial believing that Jesus will not return until Christians take over the 7 Mountains.

These “mountains” are institutions like the media, entertainment, the economy, etc. In other words, their eschatology requires that instead of reaching people with the gospel one heart at a time, they believe they are to conquer the earth one demonic spirit at a time and make the earth perfect so that Jesus can return. (Online source)

You can download and/or listen to this Crosstalk program right here.

Right Wing Watch – Mayday on the Mall

May Day 2010 has been organized around the “Seven Mountains” theology, which advocates the complete takeover of every aspect of contemporary culture by modern day “apostles” of Christ. The theology is rooted in the belief that Christians are meant to have dominion over literally everything and is focused on spiritually “invading” seven specific facets of modern life in order to wrest control away from Satan and his demonic spirits so that Christians can put them to use in bringing about God’s kingdom on Earth: (1) Business; (2) Government; (3) Media; (4) Arts and Entertainment; (5) Education; (6) Family; and (7) Religion.

Herescope :

The Coalescing of the Christian Right with Apostolic Dominion

The American political landscape has suddenly changed. A tumult is appearing in the land with the passage of health care reform. The Christian Right, with its years of courting political influence, is now poised to merge with the new Tea Party Movement. In times of crisis, natural or caused, things seem to happen faster and opportunities, that would take years, seem to happen in months. There is the scent of rebellion in the air.

R&R Revival and Revolt

Initially The Tea Party was populist, libertarian, limited government, anti-socialism and lower taxes, etc. But the first ever National Tea Party Conference in Nashville in February revealed that there has always been an overlap with Christian Right social issues. The Tea Party movement is in danger of being co-opted by the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and its radical agenda. Do the Tea Party folks realize what they are getting into?

More on the Outcry

I’ve recently found out that Against the Outcry (a group blog who spoke out against Dutch Sheets’ Wilderness Outcry and who posted some of my articles) will be closing their blog soon . Since the Wilderness Outcry has been canceled, the blog has served it’s purpose. If you have been planning on doing some reading but haven’t made it over there yet you may want to visit soon before it is gone.

update – Against the Outcry is no longer available and has been removed from my blogroll since the writing of this article.

It has been our hope and prayer that those following Dutch would have had the opportunity to view the material posted and have seen the truth. It has been said that there is a group of “intercessors” who have claimed a new purpose in going to “god” to find out who was behind that effort. This is nothing short of evil. And to raise up a group of intercessors for the purpose of what… I cannot say or imagine what they are thinking! Where could this lead?

And as a side note, good for them! As Americans they have the right to stand against this craziness coming to their own city, to stand and say this will not happen where I live and work and pay taxes, this will not happen where I raise my children!

Please pray for the safety of those involved and for the salvation of those who participated  purely for domestic reasons and do not know Christ. What must it look like when groups like these come in the name of Christ and yet do not speak His gospel, yet speak of an effort to take over the country, forcing others to join..or…what…be imprisoned…die?  This  has been the concern of some who have spoken against this gathering of Dutch’s followers. They wonder what will become of them if they do not join forces and “convert”.  How much does this resemble Islam? How about socialism?

My reasons  for speaking against this movement and the NAR as a whole can be found throughout my blog, so I won’t restate them here. I can say the cancellation of this meeting was in fact an answer to prayer. What right does this group have to instill fear in the minds and hearts of those who believe differently than they? What right do they have to twist the meaning of the gospel – the very reason Christ died – for their own realized fulfillment of some dream or vision?

What is Christianity coming to?

For anyone reading with this same concern, please know that it is not the way of Jesus Christ to force His teachings on anyone. We have all been given a free will to decide whether or not to follow Christ.  In His own words He told His disciples that His kingdom is not of this world.  And so anyone supporting a dominion  – take over the country or world for the sake of holiness /righteousness/purity – viewpoint has not come in the name of Christ, no matter what else they say.

But Christ did die, for all of us. And one day their will be a judgment of how we lived our lives and who for. So I beg you, on that day find yourselves counted among those who stood for Christ!

John 18:36 My Kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world my servants would fight so that I would not be delivered unto the Jews. But now My kingdom is not from here.

Romans 5:8  But God demonstrates His own love for us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

John 14:6 I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father except through Me.

Revelation 22:12 And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.

America and Christianity, a Parallel Slide Into Secret Places

This morning I’m considering the upcoming National Day of Prayer-what is slowly becoming America as Christianity slowly becomes something else. They seem to both be in parallel  state of change as neither has the appearance of what it once was or should still be.

America, heralded for so long as a country planted on Christian principles, established for the purpose of not only “religious” freedom, but one in which its people could freely worship God in the name of Jesus Christ. One in which its people would be free from religious prosecution, free to live the words of the bible, free to pray, free to worship in spirit and in truth. Without getting too far off here, I have to say I believe that to a degree as history proves that a group came from England for this very reason. But I also believe there were other groups establishing this country, who used the guise of Christianity, or at least the name of “God” and had a completely different plan,  one not of freedom, but of secrets. America having Christian roots is only partly true, but that is another topic for another time.

The National Day of Prayer was created by Congress in 1952. Since that time each of our presidents have honored and acknowledged that day as one for prayer.  This should be a good thing, right? All Christians coming together in various locations or in spirit to pray against the moral decay of our country and to pray for it’s leaders. It sounds like a good thing. Unfortunately, I have learned the hard way what seems to be Christian prayer isn’t necessarily.

With all that we have seen, and attributed to the great falling away, or the great apostasy, we know Christianity is under siege. I don’t know how else to say it. With the continued rising of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), the influence of Bethel (Bill Johnson), Morningstar (Rick Joyner and Todd Bentley), the International House of Prayer (Mike Bickle), The Call (Lou Engle),  and the influences of the Emergent Church (Brian McLaren, Richard Foster, Dallas Willard, Rob Bell, etc.), Saddleback (Rick Warren), the Word of Faith, Charismanina, Christianity as taught in the word of God is not up to par in this land. We have also seen, as I have warned about, many modes of “prayer” that we have been exposed to and taught are not modes of biblical prayer.

How  many of us have watched in horror as we have realized our churches are part of these supporters and even participants and teachers of false doctrines and methods? How many of us who once believed we knew the truth came to realize how far off  we really were? How many of us have watched our churches which at one time did not support these ways become taken in by them? I know there have been many. I’ve had quite a few commentors here say just that very thing. If you are one of them, know that my heart went out to you at that news and I have prayed for you and your church. I don’t take my readers lightly or for granted. You are dear to me as I know many of you are searching for the truth in the information I put up on my blog, as I once was too!

Some would say I am too focused on the negative. And to that I would say look at where we are at now. Look at the shipwreck of our faith, the very thing we were given to uphold and protect. Where is Christianity? It is being morphed into something else. So, while I am found to “find fault in everything”, I say where is the truth? If the Apostle Paul was to walk into any of these meeting places and hear the heresy, I dare to say some tables would overturn, in fact, if there would ever be a spiritual cause for an earthquake there it would be.  This is why I will not stand side by side with these false apostles and prophets under a guise of Christian prayer. And this is what we are seeing today in the upcoming National Day of Prayer.

Here is the link to their “ministry partners“.  Who are they? The International House of Prayer!!! The Call!!!  How about a little feel good wisdom from the wife of Normal Vincent Peale, Ruth Stafford Peale? I’m just wondering – where’s the yoga? Think that’s an outrageous question? It’s not far off, in light of the truth behind contemplative prayer’s roots in eastern mysticism found at IHOP, and the Emergent Church, taught innocently on the “Be Still” DVD.

We’ve already seen as I’ve written about the truth in the upcoming MayDay 2010 in which James Dobson joined forces with the NAR. So, am I surprised the National Day of Prayer has gone as far south? No. We’ve seen the push from Lou Engle and Dutch Sheets in the upcoming “Wilderness Outcry”, and Cindy Jacobs’ “Awakening”.

Listen, no one needs to grant us a day to pray. We pray because Jesus told us to pray, and He taught us how. Prayer should never be handled so lightly or so carelessly that is it a one day event, or as we have been seeing, a show. What is one day out of 365 anyway? What does that accomplish if the very next day all those who participated drift back into spiritual semi-consciousness without another thought of prayer?

If we are truly going to turn this nation, if that can even be done, or if it is the will of our Lord, we must change it through the hearts of it’s citizen’s through individual repentance. And that must start with Christians taking a stand against these who have come to steal away the true Faith!  America is indeed in meltdown, and Christianity along with it. And after all of these “days of prayer” I see just the opposite of what they’ve proposed. I see a steadfast decline in the leadership of our country and in the leadership of our churches and certainly a moral decline in both.

I see America drifting further and further away from its so called Christian roots and its established freedoms, and Christianity away from biblical truth. I have to wonder if the two don’t go hand in hand. As I mentioned in the beginning, some organizations and agendas in America were established long ago in secret. The same is to be said of the so called Christian organizations I spoke of here. They come in the name of the Lord, but after that are secrets. And, it is in what is not being said, or that which is not recognized as false that is the most dangerous.

So to steal their National Day of Prayer tag line, “For such a time as this”, let me say yes, for such a time has come to take a stand for all that is true, for Christ and our faith. It is time to expose these liars for what they are and to demand our churches and faith remains pure. For if Americans can see the erosion of their rights and freedoms, surely true Christians can see the same in regard to their faith. America is slipping away, as is Christianity, right before our very eyes. The truth for America is written in the pages of our constitution, just as the truth of Christianity is written in the pages of our bibles! Have we bothered to read or understand either of them? Or have we been taken in by lies forged in dark places?

I say “Father, Your will be done in this land, for You are sovereign”. I will pray on this day as I do on others. It will be a struggle, a discipline as it always is. However, I will not stand and approach my Father with these liars. I will stand against them in His courts for such a time as this, and if one day I perish, then so be it the will of my Father. Because I would much rather die with His words on my lips and His truth in my heart, than to be seen in “unity” with a well disguised wolf.

A Little Info on the Nazirite

RE: Lou Engle, The Call, and the upcoming Wilderness Outcry and his obsession with the Nazirite,  just for kicks here’s a quick look at “Nazirite from Wikpedia

Not to be confused with Nazarene (sect) or Nasorean.

In the Hebrew Bible, a nazirite or nazarite, (in Hebrew: נזיר, nazir), refers to one who took the ascetic vow described in Numbers 6:1-21

. The term “nazirite” comes from the Hebrew word nazir meaning “consecrated” or “separated”.[1] This vow required the man or woman to:

  • Abstain from wine, wine vinegar, grapes, raisins, and according to some — alcohol[2] and vinegar from alcohol
  • Refrain from cutting the hair on one’s head
  • Avoid corpses and graves, even those of family members, and any structure which contains such

After following these requirements for a designated period of time (which would be specified in the individual’s vow, and not to be less than 30 days), the person would immerse in a Mikvah and make three offerings, a lamb as a burnt offering (olah), a ewe as a sin-offering (hatat), and a ram as a peace offering (shelamim), in addition to a basket of unleavened bread, grain offerings and drink offerings, which accompanied the peace offering.

The nazirite is described as being “holy unto the LORD” (Numbers 6:8), yet at the same time must bring a sin offering. This contradiction has led to divergent approaches to the nazirite in the Talmud, and later authorities.

A nazirite can groom his hair with his hand or scratch his head and needn’t be concerned if some hair falls out. However a nazirite cannot comb his hair since it is a near certainty to pull out some hair. A nazirite is not allowed to use a chemical depilatory that will remove hair.[16] A nazirite that recovers from Tzaraath, a skin disease described in Leviticus 14

A nazirite can groom his hair with his hand or scratch his head and needn’t be concerned if some hair falls out. However a nazirite cannot comb his hair since it is a near certainty to pull out some hair. A nazirite is not allowed to use a chemical depilatory that will remove hair.[16] A nazirite that recovers from Tzaraath, a skin disease described in Leviticus 14

A nazirite can groom his hair with his hand or scratch his head and needn’t be concerned if some hair falls out. However a nazirite cannot comb his hair since it is a near certainty to pull out some hair. A nazirite is not allowed to use a chemical depilatory that will remove hair.[16] A nazirite that recovers from Tzaraath, a skin disease described in Leviticus 14, is obligated to cut his hair despite being a nazirite.

The nazirite (except for a Samson-like nazirite as stated above) may not become ritually impure by proximity to a dead body. Causes include being under the same roof as a corpse. However a nazirite can contract other kinds of ritual impurity. A nazirite that finds an unburied corpse is obligated to bury it, even though he will become defiled in the process.[

The tradition of the nazirite vow has had a significant influence on the modern Rastafari Movement, and elements of the vow have been adopted as part of this religion. In describing the obligations of their religion, Rastafari make reference to the nazirite vow taken by Samson. Part of this vow, as adopted by the Rastafari, is to avoid the cutting of one’s hair. This is inspired by the text of Leviticus 21:5 “They shall not make baldness upon their head, neither shall they shave off the corner of their beard nor make any cuttings in their flesh.” The visible sign of this vow is the Rastafarian’s dreadlocks.[34][35] Some Rastafari have concluded that Samson had dreadlocks, as suggested by the description stating that he had seven locks upon his head. Others interpret Samson’s “locks” to have been simple braids.

Additionally, the Rastafari are taught to abstain from alcohol in accordance with the nazirite vow. They have also adopted dietary laws derived from Leviticus, which accounts for some similarity to the prohibitions of the Jewish dietary law of Kashrut.

Follow Wikpedia link above for more info

So, where’s Jesus in this? I would think this is part of the Old Covenant and old ways having nothing to do with Jesus Christ and the New Covenant, the fulfillment of the old! So if we are going to call people to the nazirite vow, then let’s teach them to obey and fulfull all these requirements. We can’t just pick and choose. God takes our vows quite seriously! Like I mentioned in my previous post, if Lou is a Christian he will do well to turn from this practice and teach repentance and the true gospel, making disciples, not Nazirites!

A Word Against the Wilderness Outcry

A Word Against the Wilderness Outcry

Against the Outcry

The following is a comment I put up at the blog linked above. This is a group of people – Christians and Atheists who are against the upcoming Wilderness Outcry coming to their hometown in Missouri this June. The blog has linked some of my related articles to help get the word out. Please pray that the deceitful teachings of Dutch Sheets and Lou Engle be revealed to the people. Their false doctrines and silly ideas are damaging to the true faith!

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We need to put this in its proper perspective. Dutch Sheets and Lou Engle are part of what is known as the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) under the leadership of C Peter Wagner. They subscribe to the latter rain doctrine (Dominionism/Kingdom Now/Manifest Sons of God) which teaches that in the final days God will pour out His Spirit in a way that He never did in the past. They believe there will be an end time army of believers, taken from Joel 2 that will have supernatural ability never before experienced. Some of them will achieve a sinless state, embodying Christ Himself. It is complete heresy!! This is the driving force behind what is called Joel’s Army or Engle’s The Call, the Nazirites. They also believe God has called them to take dominion over the earth, in all 7 areas of influence, aka the 7 mountains – religion, entertainment, media, education, government, etc. They believe this can be achieved through these prayer/worship/fasting gatherings.

What their teachings and beliefs come down to is their own personal interpretations of scripture. They take the words of the bible out of context to support whatever dreams or visions or prophetic words they claim to have had. They throw out any regard to what the scriptures truly mean or who is being addressed, but use them for their own purposes. Much regard and importance is given to their own subjective supernatural experiences which is known as experienced-based theology, having no basis in the truth of the word of God. Their followers who trust and support them do so at their own detriment, but believe they are fulfilling the call of God and that they have been called to this service being forerunners or having special purpose or ability above that of a normal Christian. These movements are very dangerous, very deceptive. Once people become wrapped up it is very difficult to show them the truth.

I am a Christian. I believe in the word of God as it is written. These people, even tho they use the name of God and throw scripture around do not speak for true Christianity. It is very important for us to make that as clear as possible. They are liars and have their own plans and purposes aside from anything God has done, outside His will or purpose. All anyone has to do is to read the bible to find this out. It is not hard to see the lies.

Numbers do not have special purpose, nor are they ever used by God to communicate messages to His people. This is numerology and is used in the occult, a practice of divination forbidden to us by God. (Leviticus 19:26) To confirm this, scan the bible and see if God ever used numbers or a grouping of numbers to speak to people. You will find He did not. There are some who call themselves Christians yet teach numbers have meaning. (I know because I took their courses, only to find out the truth later.) And to multiply that number gives that meaning more emphasis. This is why the number 7 is expressed as 777, or 4 as 444, etc. A little research into numerology will confirm this as true. The bible was written without the numbering system as divided into chapters and verses. Man did that to make it easier to read, study and refer to. So the little scenario of 444 acres being Isaiah 44:4 is questionable since God didn’t use the numbering system anyway!!

This connection with Nazirites is part of the Old Covenant, having nothing to do with Christianity. It is old and should be put aside, not practiced or encouraged. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the Old Covenant and is the New Covenant. We call ourselves Christians because we follow Christ and His teachings and His ways. If we are to take on a vow of the Nazirite we need to be aware there is more to it than just the vow in itself. So, these followers may want to ask themselves if they are ready to follow ALL of the rules and requirements of a Nazirite because there’s more there than just getting caught up in the emotional moment and making a vow. (God takes vows seriously!) Again, this is like a buzz word, making Lou Engle look as tho he knows what he is talking about. He does not – otherwise he would teach all the requirements of a Nazirite. If he is truly a Christian he should take a closer look at what he is telling people because he is teaching them to do something other than what Christ does. In effect, he is causing a separation between Christ and His followers!

Being a Christian I must point out that upon salvation we are given the indwelling of the Holy Spirit who is Jesus Christ living with us, guiding, directing. The Holy Spirit is not a separate entity, but what is known as the third person – Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He reveals Jesus Christ. He has nothing of Himself for He is God. The Lord does not visit His people in special places. There are no longer places on earth set aside for worship or visitation. This was symbolized when Jesus was crucified and the curtain in the temple Holy of Holies was torn in two. It signified man now has access directly to God, not longer needing a priest or sacrifice to go before Him.

God treats all people as individuals and while we are called to pray we cannot repent on behalf of our nation and expect that will change things. It will not. Change will only happen when people recognize their need for a Savior, when they recognize Jesus Christ is the mediator, the one who came to reunite a sinful person with a Holy God. A God who loves us so much that He (Jesus) died for us. When we recognize this need and turn from our own selfish needs. we look to the needs of others, esteeming them more than ourselves, we can only truly love or care for another through the love of God Himself. The key aspect to anything we do is to preach the gospel. This other stuff is something other than true Christianity and I feel it of the utmost importance to show the difference as best I can. This world will continue it is sin and destruction until the return of Jesus Christ. Mankind will not change this nor will he ever be granted dominion in the way the NAR intends. They are far from the truth and must be exposed.

I have links to resources where much more information on these topics have been compiled in greater detail. I will be happy to supply them if you wish.

We are warned repeatedly in scripture of false teachers, prophets and doctrine, and that others will come in the name of Christ. This deception is very old. Please know there is a coming world leader who will take over control for a time. He will be political and religious and is known in the word as the antichrist. He will seem to be a man of peace, but only for a time. This is why it is of the utmost importance to know the difference between the true Christ and the imposter(s) and to be prepared.

The disasters on the earth happen because the earth itself is fallen. I do not believe this is God judging anyone yet. But that will come. These people who claim the storms and earthquakes, etc are judgments of God have no real way of knowing that with any certainty. To claim that we can come together and pray to avoid further devastation is an outright lie. Sheets is using fear to motivate others to follow him, manipulation is considered a form of witchcraft! It is enough to know that God allows the storms and disasters and there is no way of knowing if we will be included in the next one or not. Please be ready for what is to come on the earth.

Jesus said My Kingdom is not of this world – John 18:36
The promise and work of the Holy Spirit – John 14:26, 16:7-14
The purpose of Christ – John 3:16-17

Cindy Jacobs Promotes “Prayer” With Skull and Bones Pastor

I have to say that I have been doing more research and uncovering of the NAR than I thought I would do when I first started my blog. I see great danger for anyone following their directives, and the more I read or listen to them, the worse they get– even the roots are bad.

It is past time to pay attention to who and what they stand for and endorse. It is time to lay aside the emotional wave of wasted enthusiasm and get down to the true business of exposing their dark ways sold off to the ignorant as anything remotely related to the work of Christ or the great commission.

We continue to see the NAR growing more and more and its influence spreading and affecting many organizations. (I hesitate to use the word ministries.)  It seems each time I read one of their “prophecies” or “mandates” less and less emphasis is on Christ and the New Covenant brought by His death and resurrection. There is a reason why Christ stated on the cross “It is finished”. But these crazy word of faith-ers would have you and me battle every moment of our lives for some war that is not ours to fight. (Where’s the faith in that?)

We are not called to effect the atmosphere with our words or to change the world through societal transformation. But we are called to preach the gospel – Jesus Christ died for our sins so that through faith in Him as the Son of God we could have forgiveness and eternal life with the Father God. That is the good news preached. It is found in the New Testament of every bible. It is found on the lips of the faithful few and still in some stubborn churches throughout the world. (God bless ’em!) Adam and Eve had dominion over the earth but they lost that dominion when they disobeyed God. Dominion has not been given back to mankind but we were afforded a savior!

I found the following on Truthspeaker’s Weblog last night. I highly recommend reading the article regarding the upcoming prayer for the state of New York. There is some good stuff at links she provided. The information is quite eye opening!

NYC Intercessors and the USSPN join with Skull and Bones Pastor to Pray for NYS

By truthspeaker

I am grieved as I write this post.  Some of the people involved in this upcoming event are known by me personally.  I am writing this as a warning to those sincere Christians who are unknowingly linking themselves up with occult practices!

It has recently come to my attention through an email invitation that NYC Intercessors is joining up with Peter Wagner’s USSPN to pray for all 50 states.  The prayer time for NYS is this week.  They are culminating this prayer initiative with a meeting at Faith Exchange Fellowship in lower Manhattan.

Unfortunately,  there are several things wrong with this.  Firstly it’s total dominionsim, which is unbiblical.  Secondly it is being promoted by Cindy Jacobs, calling for the nation to repent.  The first thought that ran through my mind was “maybe if those who call themselves prophets repented for all the things they said in the name of God that never happened then something might happen”!

Cindy Jacobs in her letter to the intercessors never mentions the name of Jesus.  She also plagiarized  president Lincoln with this statement used with out quotes, writing as if these are her own words:

“Therefore, it behooves us to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness. We, as believers in the Body of Christ in the United States of America, do call for a year of humiliation, fasting and prayer to turn the nation back to God.”
Ok, so maybe that was an oversight…. but plagiarism is illegal.
Next we have Chuck Pierce’s involvement in this.  It has been proven that he makes prophetic predictions based on the writings of the Kabbalah:
“According to Chuck Pierce, all months have some sort of spiritual (mystical, actually) significance. This, he claims, is because God created each month that way. Like much of what Mr. Pierce claims, however, that’s not in the Bible. So where did he come up with that idea? Quite simply, he got it from Kabbalah.”
But the BIGGEST problem with this whole thing is that the pastor whose church they are meeting at on Wednesday is a MEMBER OF THE SKULL AND BONES SOCIETY!
According to Rich Vermillion:
“So in short, Dan Stratton was certainly NEVER a Christian (much less a Christian minister, as he professes himself to be). I have known Dan Stratton personally, and have also researched the S&B fairly extensively. Stratton’s initiation rites into that satanic cult required him to swear total allegiance to the enemy of our souls, satan himself. Thus, unless he repents and renounces that black cult publicly and exposes their hidden secrets, he is to be shunned as a false-brother and false apostle—as I will elaborate concerning even further below”
See also this article by Cutting Edge:
“However, we have a real problem, because Pastor Don Stratton has admitted his membership in the satanic secret society, Skull & Bones! Let us review this video to see him, and his wife, Ann, being interviewed on Pat Robertson’s ‘700 Club’.Watch this video from ‘700 Club’ admitting he is a Bonesman, a member of Skull & Bones

Pat Robertson asks Dan Stratton to confirm that he is a member of “Skull & Bones”, to which Dan replies that, “yes, it is true”.

But, then Stratton defends his membership, largely by attempting to make the organization appear harmless.

“Don’t hold that against me, a lot of Christians don’t like the idea. But, I have had the chance to preach the Gospel, in that group. Many of my friends in that club have come to know the Lord. People put a lot of Masonic connotations to it, but they never made me make any oaths or do anything which have compromised my Christianity.” http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n2241.cfm

This was also admitted in an article published by the NY Times and at one time was posted on Faith Exchange’s web site:

“Stratton is not a bed-of-roses kind of guy. He vividly recalls how, as a poor jock from the sticks, he was mocked for his clothes and called Big Bird by the rich kids at Yale. Still, by his senior year, he was a major figure on campus, second team all-Ivy, starring in school productions of “West Side Story” and “Man of La Mancha” and even playing Larry in “Boys in the Band.” During his junior year, he became a member of Skull and Bones. This affiliation isn’t mentioned in Stratton’s book; a lot of evangelical Christians, he says, are put off by what they regard as the Satanic symbolism of the club, whose members include both George W. Bush and John F. Kerry.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/17/magazine/17wwln_evangelicals.t.html?pagewanted=print

Here are some quotes from the Quotes from the “Prophetic Destiny of a Nation” 50 State Tour for New York

“God is looking to see if we will lay down our own agendas and agree to connect with one another, which is His agenda!” Dutch Sheets – NYC, NY

“A state wide call to gather and worship will come forth and a NEW sound will arise.” Chuck Pierce – Albany, NY

“60 houses of revival will spring forth throughout New York State!” Chuck Pierce – Rochester, NY

“A prophetic sign will be given during the spring thaw!” – Dutch Sheets – Rochester, NY

Our “Empire State” will become “His Kingdom State!” – Joseph Askins – declared in each city of the tour

I think we should mark these down and see if any of them come true and then call the prophets false who make false predictions!

Christians, it’s time to WAKE UP!  Come OUT of Babylon!  Then maybe we will see a move of God in America!

Boil, Toil and More Trouble from the NAR

Here are some of the things being said (prophesied and taught) by some NAR members. I continue to be amazed the way they are using tragic earthquakes and tsunamis for their own gain. Remember, to be a Christian is to become like Christ through following His teachings and being transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit and also through dedication and discipline of prayer and bible study. Salvation and transformation is not found through piety, or “doing”. It is all about the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, God incarnate in what He did for us. It is never about man.  But notice Chuck’s so called prayer focus. Every day it is about do, do, do.  My friends, this is simply not biblical teaching!

From Elijah List

Chuck Pierce: The South Pacific Boils! PLUS Day 1-7 Prayer Focus to Release You to See Your Future – Prayer and intercession is keeping the portal between Heaven and Earth opened over us. During one portion of our Sunday morning service, Isaac Pierce began to play a drum with great intensity. The sound that was released and accompanied in song by LeAnn Squier was interpreted by Barbara Wentroble and Keith Pierce.

Prayer and intercession (to pray on the behalf of another) is to go before God the Father to make your requests known to Him. Christian prayer has nothing to do with the opening of a portal. We are given a mention in Revelation 5:8 of golden bowls full of incense which are the prayers of the saints. That’s the visual, nothing about a portal. Would you be surprised to find that portals are used in the occult?  How often we hear them from those who claim to be modern day apostles, prophets and teachers – here, Pierce, and also Bill Johnson, Todd Bentley, Bob Jones, Todd Bentley, Patricia King, John Paul Jackson and many who follow after them who are like minded. If these people speak for God where are they getting this idea?

Notice the connection Chuck Pierce makes between the release of sound – drum and song interpreted as prophetic word. You will need to judge the word just like we are told in scripture. For brevity, I will only post the sections that “wowed” me. If you wold like to read the word in it’s entirety, use the link above. Certainly there is much more that could be revealed.

Keith Pierce then said, “The moment that Isaac began to hit the drum, I saw ignition occur. As it ignited I saw fire begin to shoot out from our fingertips.

Fire out of fingertips. There is no way this is of God!

(Keith again) I keep seeing the waters of the South Pacific warming and beginning to bubble.

Barbara added this word of the Lord, I am going to give you power over the winds and over the waves. Even as My Son spoke to the winds and spoke to the waves and commanded them to be still, this is the hour that you will speak to the destructive winds and to the destructive waves and you shall cause them to be stilled.

This is about the only time you will hear about Jesus Christ. It is in the opportunistic wording of satan, to be like God, or when they pray or decree “in Jesus’ name”. They want to be God -and these words prove it. We do not have the power over wind and waves. Only Jesus, only God.

Mark 4:39 Then He arose ad rebuked the wind and said to the sea, “Peace be still!” And the wind ceased and there was a great calm. Jesus calmed the sea and the wind. He did not teach his disciples who were with them to do it. If that were His intention, what a great teaching moment!  But, it was not and still to this day is not.

Keith continued, “Listen to the sound of war because it is building. When it builds My people will arise. When they arise, they will come to their new mantle. They will receive their new authority. They will extend their hands in a new way. Extend your hands and face the contrary wind. Speak to the ill winds and say, ‘Cease. You will not bring the locust across my land. Cease. You will not enter my cargo ship. Cease and desist.’ Today is the day that I am Jehovah-Shalom. I am your peace. I am your prosperity in the midst of the storm.”

Listen to the buzz words – sound of war, arise, new mantle, new authority? Oh, that’s the good one – new authority! By whom? Who will bring to the body of Christ this new authority? Christ said all authority is given to Me in heaven and on earth – Matthew 28:18.

And that last line almost makes us want to think it was God speaking – I am Jehovah-Shalom. But no! It cannot be our God because He never told us or taught us the things the NARites do. They do not come in the name of God because they do not speak His word. They have no power or authority over the church – none.  And that is my declaration to them!

The Hebrew letter symbol for the year 5770, Ayin, not only means to see, but the word means to BUD FORTH!

I say Chuck Pierce’s statement is divination! And is strictly forbidden in scripture. Leviticus 19:26, 31

From day one of the prayer focus by C Pierce –

One cycle that I feel we must break is linked to the spirit of poverty. In a materialistic society, this spirit tends to blind us from seeing the will of God. We must declare victory over the spirit of poverty! This spirit has violated God’s perfect order and produced instability in many individuals. I feel that the Lord is saying that we need to take a violent and passionate stand on behalf of the Body of Christ concerning this spirit—that we must press through difficulties and storms to force an atmospheric change.I declare that any atmosphere of poverty encircling around you or your sphere of authority will be invaded with the atmosphere of blessing and glory from Heaven.

I don’t necessarily believe in a spirit of poverty. There are many reasons for lack in our lives. But Chuck says this spirit will bind us from seeing the will of God. If that is the case, maybe repentance is in order, maybe it is a matter of getting our focus off our circumstances and back on to God. That is not done by a declaration that will change the atmospheric conditions around us. We are not affected spiritually the atmosphere, but by what we think on. Philippians 4:8, Proverbs 23:7, learn to be full or suffer lack – Philippians 4:12 and that it is Christ who gives us strength, v 13.

From day three-

The generation that came out of Egypt was filled with poverty resulting from slavery. Therefore, they resisted the war that would be necessary for them to be established in the abundance of God’s promises. Their fear caused their perspective of God’s purposes to be clouded and confused. They lost the ability to advance and enter into success. They could only see their enemy and not their victory! The enemy was in fear of them because they knew God was backing them. Riches were waiting for the covenant people of God and had to be postponed to another generation that would develop a mentality of dominion.

Number 14:11 Then the Lord said to Moses: “How long will these people reject me? And how long will they not believe Me with all the signs which I have performed among them?”  Clearly, not a matter of war as Chuckie would have us believe and do, but a matter of rejecting God. They did not lose the ability to enter into success, they were prevented from entering the promised land by the Almighty.  Still, not a matter of dominion, but one of obedience and adoration. Dominion is a key component of NAR/Word of Faith false doctrine. The people of God did not have to take dominion of the land, it was given to them by the Creator.

From day six-

I was recently in Las Vegas, and I asked the Lord, “What is the real problem here?” I heard Him say, “Sabbath is not part of this culture!”

Sabbath! I was recently in Las Vegas too. It is a vile place to be. Sabbath rest is not the problem. Sin is the problem.  I would say there’s a lot of resting going on there, at the expense of others. I cannot fathom our Righteous Father commenting in such a way!  Salvation, not rest, Jesus Christ is the need and He is not a matter of culture!

From day seven –

Let’s ask the Lord to remove the debt that has blinded us. Thank Him that He redeemed you from debt so He can show you how to be delivered today from any debt that surrounds you. Even if you have lost what you borrowed, you can recover! You can SEE your way past your debt.

Jesus Christ paid our debt of sin and through Him we are redeemed from death and eternal hell.  Following this false prophet’s direction will not lead you to Christ or His ways. He is a dangerous man intent on removing you from your relationship with the Lord by taking your focus off the true ways of God and the message of the gospel and convincing you that you need to do these these “prayer focuses” he puts out.  My friends, that work is deceitful, the work of Satan.

For many will come in my name, saying I am the Christ, and will deceive many. Matthew 24:5

And Another Wave Of….ad nauseum

I found this prophetic word (ahem) a little while ago, pertaining to the Chilean earthquake and tsunami. It nearly made me physically sick to read. Such garbage and mumbo jumbo coming out of the NAR and their little club and they get worse by the day!  People have died, lost loved ones, homes, jobs – everything, but let’s get a “word” in there.

I’m the one in blue.

A Wave of God’s Glory is Coming! by Cindy Jacobs

Does anyone understand precisely what it means when the NAR or the MSOG refer to God’s glory?

Last Friday night, February 26th, my husband and I had an unusual night – we weren’t speaking at a conference, traveling, or busy.  So we stayed home and watched a movie – Robinson Crusoe.

Remember, everything in the false prophetic has meaning.

The next morning we watched in shock and distress as news reached us that an 8.8 magnitude earthquake had shaken Chile during the night and that a tsunami wave had rolled over Robinson Crusoe Island just off the Chilean coast.

Ok, so if this woman is so prophetic why didn’t she know about the earthquake and tsunami before they happened? After all, she does speak about prophetic intercession and having that foresight is what that gift is all about. She calls herself a seer. But this “prophet to the nations” as she refers to herself had no clue.

While watching the news and praying, I recalled speaking at Chuck Pierce’s “Starting the Year off Right” conference in Denton, Texas on December 31, 2009.  Chuck prophesied that the Lord would begin to buckle highways as a sign of rearranging the order of the earth so that the covenant with God’s land could now manifest in a way that was stopped from manifesting in the last season.

Here’s where my barf bag comes out.

Chuckie – “buckle highways” as in cause accidents and more death? Some years ago they set up and declared by word of another prophet a Highway of Holiness and during that time a bridge collapsed and people died. That was enough prophetic intercession and highway buckling to last us a life time. Statement re:I-35

Rearrange the order of the earth – I can’t begin to imagine what that might mean, does anyone?

But the biggie – the covenant of God’s land – what covenant might that be exactly?

Stopped it from “manifesting” in the last season- Would that mean a failed prophecy? Or maybe God’s trying to tell Chuckie something.

These people truly have their own thing going on!

I proceeded to prophesy about earthquakes.  “I’m going to shake the earth.  You will begin to see earthquakes…I am coming to shake everything that can be shaken.”  Look where the earthquakes are hitting because God is going to release a wind of Pentecost in those places.

I dunno. She speaks of wind, so should we watch for hurricanes too? I need to know when God used the earth to bring salvation to His people – when EVER??? Because the gospel of Jesus Christ is the emphasis of the life and purpose of a Christian, not earthquakes! And no matter how good the power stuff of Pentecost sounds or how it appeals to those who adore power, there is no Pentecost without SALVATION! And there is no true power without the presence of the Holy Spirit, and He does not dwell with liars and false prophets.

Jesus told his disciples that earthquakes would be a sign of His coming, a sign of the end of the age in Matthew 24. He said nothing about a wind of Pentecost hitting the same areas.

Geomancer – one who divines by lines or geographic features. Hmmm…

God has a way of taking those things that Satan means for evil and bringing great glory out of them.  This will be the case for these disasters.

I am the first to admit, to know first hand that God works miracles for His people who trust Him in tragedy and that will always be my testimony. But, it takes some doing on the part of the believer and not just some prophetic declaration swooshed over it like – TADA!!! – all better! They need the word of God, meaning the bible, His truth, His love, His forgiveness! They need salvation and the only way they are going to get there is the old fashioned way, the tried and true way, God’s way –  through preaching the word!

But alas, more mumbo jumbo:

Since the December 31 prophecy about earthquakes, on January 12, Haiti was rocked with a massive 7.0 (full circle, completion) magnitude shaking and then Chile on February 27.  The earthquake in Chile rocked the city of Concepcion (conception, birthing) with an 8.8 (double new beginnings) magnitude.  I believe this represents birthing of double new beginnings of glory in the earth.  I believe God desires not only to heal Chile and Haiti but to turn these terrible disasters for good for His people.

This is not the way of our Lord God. He does not speak to us in numbers. This use of numerology is of the occult  and is associated with  astrology and linked to the ancient Kaballah which is a practice of Jewish or Hebrew mysticism. The use of the occult and its various forms is strictly forbidden in scripture.

The way she is using these horrindous disasters as a spring board for her purposes makes me sick. It makes me sad for God’s people, for those who are dellusioned by this woman and it makes me sad for her. I used to listen to her and trust her as my teacher until the Lord showed me the error.

And maybe good things can come from bad if we position ourselves spiritually, but I hate this opportunist method of the false prophetic so much. It gives false hope to those who are desperate and needing answers and direction. It is no different from fortune tellers or psychics.

As mentioned, after the earthquake in Chile, a tsunami raced across Robinson Crusoe Island, bringing havoc.  The people on the island did not receive the warning in time, resulting in devastation.  However, God is going to touch this little island and rescue it in a unique way and it will be rebuilt.

Havoc. Devastation. Yes – say it. Death and lots of it. And under worse conditions, possible disease, famine. People don’t just walk out of this in a day.  And as far as a rescue? What might that be? There is only Jesus Christ, and yes, He is unique in comparison to other gods, other religions. But He is the only way, nothing unique or new is going to come and pull them from the horror they now face. How dare this be implied in the name of God!

The tsunami then swept across the ocean towards Hawaii.  The Lord gave me a word in 1992 that Hawaii would become the first Christian state.  I asked the Lord, “What is happening?”  He replied, “I am getting ready to sweep the face of the earth with my glory as the waters cover the sea.”  (see Hab 2:14)

Hawaii – the first Christian state. That’s just stupid for obvious reasons. Need to know what’s happening from God? Read the bible.

Hawaii was ready with a prayer army and early warning devices and so was not damaged with this natural tsunami, but the glory of the Lord will remain.

So, meaning there had to have been tsunami damage before the Lord would move?

Then the Lord reminded me, “This is the week of your Convergence gathering in Dallas.”  I then made the connect – God is going to use Convergence to release His glory into the seven mountains or sectors of society.  In fact, we begin with Lance Wallnau who has been used of God to teach about the seven mountains in such a powerful way.

The seven mountains. Yes. The kingdom man built, something like Babel.

The Lord then spoke to me, “Have every speaker decree at the end of their session that the glory of God will begin to sweep the earth into their mountains of society.”

When I hear statements like these I wonder if I should consider it harmless hog wash or if there is something quite vile, wicked, with power being released in their words.

I saw in a vision of a gathering of waters, piling up full of glory, that are being prepared to sweep the face of the earth in a great move of prayer, intercession, miracles, and glory.

Yeah, right.

He is coming to shake everything that can be shaken and fill the earth with His glory.  By Saturday night of Convergence we are going to decree a release of His glory.  The earth is groaning for the manifestation of the sons of God revealing who He is in the nations of the earth.  His glory will be seen through the church (religion), family, government, education, business, arts/entertainment, and media mountains.

The sons of God and to them it is the Manifest Sons of God who will embody Christ. That will be their revelation –  the god of the seven mountains – who is not the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, nor the one who sent His only begotten Son Jesus Christ, nor the Father of us all. The Kingdom of God is not of this world!

Make your way to Dallas by car, bus, or plane.  I believe God’s glory is going to be revealed in our midst in great and wondrous ways.

Did anyone see mention of Jesus Christ in any of Cindy Jacob’s words as a prophet of the Lord?

This is where I say MARANATHA! Come Lord Jesus.

Isaiah 64 1-5 Oh that You would rend the heavens!  That You would come down! That the mountains might shake at Your presence-

2 As fire burns brushwood, As fire causes water to boil – To make Your name known to Your adversaries, That the nations may tremble at Your presence.

3 For when You did awesome things for which we did not look, You came down, The mountains shook at Your presence.

4 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard nor perceived by the ear, Nor has the eye seen any God besides You who acts for the one who waits for Him.

5 You meet him who rejoices and does righteousness, Who remembers You in Your ways. You are indeed angry, for we have sinned – In these ways we continue; And need to be saved.


Bentley Ordained – HA!

Updated with new link-

This reminds me of the days when a person only needed to send in some cash to an address on the inside of a matchstick cover to become “ordained“.  This proves a similar process is still in operation. Well…isn’t this America, where a person can become anything they want to become? Guess it’s true.

Will anything stop Bentley and Joyner now?

https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=AwrT6V7LKM1UGIsABbsnnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTB0ZWVkYm84BHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1lIUzAwMl8x?p=todd+bentley+ordained&tnr=21&vid=782181D7A12F588DEFD3782181D7A12F588DEFD3&l=600&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DUN.608048841351564693%26pid%3D15.1&sigi=11rce08nb&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DnVdY9ufJmz8&sigr=11bj89rq7&tt=b&tit=Todd+Bentley%26%2339%3Bs+Apostolic+and+Prophetic+Commissioning+1%2F4&sigt=11si2vrdg&back=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fyhs%2Fsearch%3Fp%3Dtodd%2Bbently%2Bordained%26ei%3DUTF-8%26hsimp%3Dyhs-001%26hspart%3Dmozilla&sigb=130shkqak&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001

Mark Chironna another pea in the pod of poo

I don’t know much about Mark Chironna. Only that he partnered and pal’d around with Kim Clement a few years back. He’s been around for a long time but I grew interested in him when some of his teaching was brought to my attention –

At Chironna’s website we find what could only be the end result of a mastered mix of psychology, psychic beliefs and the bible.  I say “mastered” because as you read his stuff the thinking is hmmmm…that sounds right. But, ahh, remember, discernment is not knowing the difference between right and wrong, but right and ALMOST right per our friend gone before us- Charles Spurgeon. Mark’s teaching is just like the false prophetic as life becomes all about ME, who I am, who I was created to be; destiny in the making. Mark takes this one step further as he gives out a process in how to make that happen. But the word of our God says nothing like this. It is all about Jesus Christ and our lives are to mirror His image, not one of our own making. (We) put on the new man who is renewed in the knowledge according  to the image of Him who created him. Colossians 3:10.

Mark may speak against new age heretics, but his teaching and explanation of the word shows him to be another pea in the pod of poo. He calls himself a “bishop”, a PhD-er, appears to be a very well paid “life coach” and is part of Peter Wagner’s New Apostolic Reformation which makes him another very dangerously deceived false apostle building a kingdom of his own. This makes him part of the “speak it into existence” crowd, more commonly known as the word of faith.

This video from BarnumandBentley shows Chironna’s connection with psychic and new age websites as he peddles his wares. Pardon, but there’s a snappy tune with the video. I kinda like it.

I began to do the research late this morning and found other sites who were putting up warnings against Mark. I read that he is to be the host on TBN tonight, although I cannot confirm it on their site, not sure why. So, since there seems to be a sudden interest on the web, God may be trying to tell us, or better Mark’s followers, the truth.

Again, I am reminded of this scripture, which seems to have been the bedrock for me in my search for the truth – Colosssians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. 9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; 10 and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.

Philosophy and psychology are man made truths, and in themselves have nothing to do with God. To mix these ideas and fantasies with the word of God is to corrupt the true meaning of salvation. We are nothing without redemption for God gives us all that we need from His word.

If you are a follower of Mark’s, please take the time to compare his teachings with what the bible says. They are not the same teachings.