A New Pope and a Pop For Ecumenism

I guess news reporting is not what it used to be. We get only a glimpse of the happening, hardly a mention of serious matters, with lots of time spent on things that do not matter, and lots of opinions. The fact that everyone has got one has gone a bit too real. But oh, well, it brings in ratings, pays the bills and someone up there gets rich. So, who cares if its the truth, right? Opinions also build blogs, don’t they?

If I wouldn’t have watched it with my own eyes I probably wouldn’t have believed it. You may not believe it either because I am not going to put up a bunch of links to prove what I am saying is true. I’m not going to go into long explanations of why this is all so strange, scary and wonderful at the same time. I am going to simply say what I witnessed along with much of the world via tv land, assuming anyone else out there was paying attention. I am saying it because it needs to be said and so far, no one else has.

It seems the world has gone and got itself a new pope, a new Holy Father, a pontiff, a vicar, one they can follow, or who can lead them into the next phase of their religion, whatever that may be. A man who has chosen the name of another who lived long ago, famed for his strange supernatural experiences, one who heard the voice of God thru a cross. One whose long ago pilgrimage is very popular among not only the Catholics, but also the well-evolved Christians who have sought after another way.

Did you ever think you would hear a call for ecumenism during a prime time news broadcast? I didn’t. But on such a stellar occasion, amidst the joy and excitement, the sign of hope through white smoke, the new pope, and  – pop – there it was on CNN. The crier, Erin Burnett.

I think Erin does a good job most of the time, but I don’t watch her all that often. So, it is nothing personal against her ability to do her job. It is however, largely personal that she publicly denied Christ and urged others to follow along with her. But somehow I doubt she understands the gravity of her words. And that is most unfortunate.

So on the evening of March 13, 2013, the filming of Out Front, Erin, standing in front of St. Peters’ had a short conversation with Roma Downey. They discuss the new pope and are both very excited and pleased that a decision has been made. Roma is a practicing Catholic, and Executive Producer of the doctrinally failed, yet very popular mini-series, The Bible. Roma who later referred to herself as Christian stated she was very excited that her series, bible stories as she related to it, had brought in more ratings than “the zombies“. I’m not so sure that is an accomplishment to brag about. There is more truth to be had from AMC’s The Walking Dead than there is her version of the bible. And I can have an opinion here, I’ve watched both.

Suddenly, Erin commented that she wished she had read the Qur’an. It was a disjointed comment, and it took me back, because it was so out of place. But for Erin, her personal beliefs and religious needs, her comment had a place, and you will see that. She then asked Roma how she felt about the Qur’an. Roma stated it was ok that others read the Qur’an, that “as Christians, we are called to love and to be tolerant”. Roma, like the faith she follows is only partly right. To love is something we can all agree on, even superficially.

Going forward, Erin brings on via satellite an ex-Catholic turned atheist, lesbian woman. How fitting considering the sexual sin by the Catholic church and the current battle over same sex marriage, huh? But remember, everyone has an opinion. This woman, whose name I do not know feels that if the Catholic church would just change it’s beliefs to accommodate what the people want, what is relevant for today, then more people would probably return to the church. So, a woman who claims she no longer believes in God is going to give spiritual and doctrinal advice? And this woman’s presence on camera is not political? And let me say, with all the horrendous things done in the name of God, I can see why this woman made the choices she did. I don’t say they are right, but I do understand the reasoning behind them.

After the final commercial break, Erin, standing alone, facing the camera ends her show with a personal call for ecumenism. By her own words that is what she believes in. She too is an ex-Catholic, and although she doesn’t practice any more, she is excited that the church has a new pope. She states that the church does a lot of good for a lot of people.  But for her, all we need is ecumenism. She’s beautiful. She’s smiling. She is convincing. In the excitement and emotion of such a momentous occasion, in a place where so many have gathered together, who wouldn’t want to be included in the next great thing?

Ecumenism. A fancy word that basically means unity. Ahh-ha. Now the seemingly odd and out of place Qur’an question from earlier makes a bit more sense. As do the ideas and suggestions of the displaced atheist. Unity in what, Erin?  A god who condones homosexuality? Or reading of the Qur’an alongside the Bible, or reading any book for that matter, or maybe no book at all? Or maybe we will just chuck the bible and watch Roma’s newly produced bible stories, entertaining as they are. Unity, meaning we all believe in something, some god with whatever name we are to give him, or give her for that matter,  a higher power, a force, with doctrine based on whatever whim feels right at the moment, one that we can change when we become too bored?  Isn’t that what we call agnostic? Universalism? Don’t we call that emergent?

We do not by orthodoxy call that “Christian”. And Erin, you have not been the first to think of it.

This, my friends is the beginning of a one world religious system. This is wonderful bible prophecy unfolding before our very eyes. And it all happened right there, after the election of the new pope, on CNN.

I am still shaking my head.

Olympic Ceremonies

Not long ago, I had a conversation with some other people regarding the opening ceremony of the Olympic games. Not being a fan, I didn’t watch it on TV but became quite concerned after seeing bits and pieces of it on the internet. 

After a good search and a plea for assistance we found there was no stream available to be watched.  Yeah, we can stream The Closer, but not the opening ceremony of the oh-so-important Olympic competition the masses flock to be a part of. Hmm…

I was able to see some of the still photos on the web along segments of home video. The symbolism was quite shocking, dark and sinister, but no relation at will with the games, or the athletes. Don’t you find that strange?

A much trusted researcher, whose knowledge and insight I am thankful for, has taken the time to put it all together. You will see these ceremonies have nothing to do with “the games” at all. I find that quite odd and quite disturbing.

So what is that message?

An in-depth look at the symbolism behind the Olympic Ceremonies

And as a side note, and because I think there is a very strong connection, we should also consider the symbolism presented during the 2012 Superbowl halftime show.

Are we entertained yet?

America’s Pastor, and Another Move for One World Religion

Nearly 4 years ago, Rick Warren posed  – yes – posed the inaugural prayer for Obama. At the end of his words he stated “in the name of Isa”. Is there NOW any wonder left for us as to why he said such a thing, being famed as “America’s Pastor”? 

One world religion, anyone?

Adding a new article to this listing found here – Rick Warren and…

Warren openly attempts to unite Christians and Muslims –

The Rev. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest and one of America’s most influential Christian leaders, has embarked on an effort to heal divisions between evangelical Christians and Muslims by partnering with Southern California mosques and proposing a set of theological principles that includes acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.  read more

Peace in a Globalized Society

Hi Guys!

I haven’t listened to all of this video, but wanted to put the link up so that you can become more aware of what was discussed.

The place of faith in the transformation of societies in North Africa was a key area of the conversation. Tony Blair said:

“All over the region, as their societies become more open, they will have people of different faiths. It is essential to begin that dialogue. If we can also establish a faith dialogue and partnership, that in itself will be of major importance. It is far more likely that democratic systems will take root and will deliver prosperity and opportunity if there is an open and respectful attitude, according dignity to those of another faith. Whilst being completely true to their tradition and religion, people can be open also to others of a different religion.”

Tony Blair and Rick Warren also took head on the misconception that engaging with those of other faiths means a dilution of one’s own religious beliefs.

Pastor Rick stated: “Interfaith dialogue doesn’t mean compromising your faith; it means understanding somebody else’s and not watering it down. We’re not trying to find the lowest common denominator we’re saying, ‘But how can we get along?'”

Rick Warren and Tony Blair  – Saddleback Civil Forum

 

We live, work and play in a world that is made up of many religions. As Christians we are called to love and to preach the gospel to everyone. We are not called to promote peace in a “globalized society”.  We are not called to find a “common good” between people so that we can all get along together. (We already do that!) There is no good in any of us.  Nor should we be manipulated by rulers or apostates to follow them in finding methods to share the faith separate from what has been laid out for us in scripture.

There will be no true peace until Jesus Christ returns and sets up His own kingdom. We cannot begin that process without Him and He will be the only one to initialize it. Until then all efforts are futile. Watch who you walk after.

Isaiah 9:6-8

6 For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of His government and peace
There will be no end,
Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
To order it and establish it with judgment and justice
From that time forward, even forever.
The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

Matthew 16:26

26 For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?

Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?

Rick Warren and…

A collection of links and articles written by others that will show who and what Rick Warren is involved with.  (Also see previous article.)

This page may be updated in the future. If you have references, please send them in if you wish. 🙂

Rick Warren Endorses 2013 Book, “Catholics Come Home” – Calls Catholic Evangelization “Critically Important”

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=11347

See what “America’s Pastor” is saying about this 2013 release on the Roman Catholic” new evangelization program to bring back the “lost [Protestant] brethren” to the “Mother Church”:

Warren openly attempts to unite Christians and Muslims –

The Rev. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest and one of America’s most influential Christian leaders, has embarked on an effort to heal divisions between evangelical Christians and Muslims by partnering with Southern California mosques and proposing a set of theological principles that includes acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.  read more

Crosstalk Blog

We are reminding readers of the use of the term “leaven” in Galatians 5:9 in regard to false teaching. How does leaven work? We all know. A small amount placed in the dough will leaven all of it.

Rick Warren and John Piper as Keynote Speakers, Aspire Conference

A Photo with Steve Camp Says it All

The seduction of the “Reformed” camp by Rick Warren continues apace. The Tweet in the photo is by Steve Camp from last June, a man who spent  a number of years exposing the Purpose-Driven false gospel only to do a 180-degree turnaround recently.

PRN Newswire:

Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair to Join Rick Warren in one-on-one discussion

LAKE FOREST, Calif., March 1, 2011 /PRNewswire/ — Dr. Rick Warren and Saddleback Church will host Tony Blair on Sunday, March 6 at the Civil Forum on Peace in A Globalized Economy.

Lake Forest Patch:

Tony Blair to give tickets to Saddleback attendees

Christian Post:

Pastor’s Convention Aim to Plant More Churches

We don’t need another conference or more sermons…but what we need is a fresh awakening, a fresh outpouring of the Holy Spirit that would begin something that would literally change the world, said Pitman, who is also the lead pastor of Hope Baptist Church in Las Vegas, Nev.

This convention is the Aspire Conference linked in the first article The quoted comment sounds just like those involved in charismania who constantly look for the next move, the next outpouring as though God needs to do something more for us than He already has. The true message is one of repentance. It is our responsibility to respond to God in heeding the message already laid out. Planting churches is a great goal if there is proper need. But in looking at the big picture, these men are no longer bringing a gospel message, but one mixed with many other focuses. When the message of the cross has become “Jesus and” it is no longer the true gospel. It has become heretical.

Chuck Colson Breakpoint:

Video Series by Chuck Colson and Rick Warren -Christian leaders Chuck Colson and Rick Warren have joined together to produce a stimulating study called Wide Angle: Framing Your Worldview.

Keep in mind the previous push for signatures on the Manhattan Declaration. Is it a wonder Chuck Colson has also teamed up with Warren being they are both “purpose driven”? When I hear the word “worldview” it makes me think dominionism or one world religion/government. I know some who use this word do not have that in their view or teaching, but many others do and we will see that connection between those who have evil intent.

Lighthouse Trails Blog:

3 Contemplative Proponents -Leonard Sweet, Rick Warren, and Mark Driscoll – Named Among “Top 10 Most Influential Christians” of 2010

“What influenced the choices were their accomplishments in 2010, polling data and frequency of mention in the press.”1 What the article does not say though is that all three of these “leaders” in Christianity are contemplative proponents, which means that in view of this huge influence, thousands and thousands are being influenced toward contemplative spirituality (a belief system that ultimately leads to New Age thinking).

Lighthouse Trails has some very good reference material regarding the New Age and false christs. I highly recommend these books and teachings!

Eye-Witness Account: Global Peace Forum at Saddleback with Rick Warren and Tony Blair Raises Serious Questions About Global Peace Plan

On March 7, 2011, Roger Oakland, founder of Understand the Times, International, and two other members from his ministry attended the Peace in a Globalized Society forum at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, which featured Rick Warren and special guest, former UK prime minister Tony Blair. Roger Oakland and his co-workers obtained eye-witness seats at the event that included well over 2000 people in attendance. Although cameras and recorders were not allowed in the main sanctuary where the interview took place, the UTT team took notes.

2theadvocate:

Warren Visits Bethany for Conference

He (Warren) said he has trained more than 400,000 people in the 40-day, “Purpose Driven” program in 164 foreign nations, and some of those people have told him, “The uprisings are not religious or political; everybody is working together.”

In introducing Warren to the conference audience, the Rev. Larry Stockstill, senior pastor at Bethany, said Warren has “an apostolic calling on a worldwide scale.”

“A mantle that Billy Graham has been carrying is falling upon him,” Stockstill said. Warren’s “greatest desire is to see the American pastor and pastors across this globe develop a purity of lifestyle that shines like stars in the firmament.”

emphasis mine

Apprising Ministries:

THE DANIEL PLAN OF RICK WARREN ENCOURAGES UNBIBLICAL MEDITATION: http://apprising.org/2011/02/17/the-daniel-plan-of-rick-warren-encourages-unbiblical-meditation/

Jesus didn’t wear socks. I don’t wear socks. I want to be like him.