Slain in Whose Spirit?

This is a very good video re: Slain in the Spirit that Redeemed Hippie has on her site.

If you or someone you know has experienced this manifestation attributed to the work of the Holy Spirit, you need to be aware of what the bible has to say, or in this case, does not have to say about it.

Watch the youtube video from ppsimmons

When Is Enough Truly Enough?

A Question

When is false teaching and false prophecy allowable? Or is it?  Is it possible for a believer to fall away, losing their salvation because of false teachers? Or is it all allowed because God is one of mercy, love and grace, who will restore them back to Himself in due time?  If there is in fact demonic transference, at what point does this take place? In laying on of hands? In agreement with false teaching? In following after the elitist teachers and not following after the God of our salvation? Or maybe demons don’t have anything to do with what we are seeing today. Maybe it is only of the flesh or foolishness of man, nothing much to be concerned about.

Can I sit under the false teaching, follow the guidance and advice of a false prophet, participate in charismania craziness – changing the atmosphere with my words, speaking things into existence, in fire tunnels, in manifestations, falling to the floor, shaking, buzzing with electricity from an unseen force, giddy with the joy of uncontrollable laughter, or in sorrow for the lost in uncontrollable tears; making trips to the third heaven and other out of body experiences, leaving behind the true teaching of the bible, and one day still walk through the pearly gates?

At what point is enough really enough and time to get out, or can I just stay and have my fun? After all, my leaders say their church is a portal for God’s outpouring and they are anointed and gifted having had revelation of hidden knowledge for such a time as this.  God is doing a new thing! We are under a mandate!  It’s the new wine!  God is powerful; He can do anything and we can’t keep Him in a box because we don’t understand. All these leaders pray in Jesus name and say that He has come in the flesh. So, what’s the harm?

Hmmm….What say you?  What does the word say?  Anyone want to kick this around?

Another Spirit

I found this article a couple of days ago. It explains some of things I experienced while involved in the charismatic, or what I now refer to as “charismania” and the false prophetic – the words of prophecy that came so freely, whether I was with the person or not, the “knowing” or what this author refers to as “clairvoyance” as I started to know things that were impossible otherwise, the feeling of drunkenness, the falling, slain in the spirit, the laying on of hands and anointing others who would be slain, the numerous languages in “tongues”, the expectation of “an intercessor” and spiritual warfare, the dominion and word of faith view to “speak things into existence”, the emphasis on the supernatural in dreams and visions and interpreting, numerology (and I don’t even like numbers), and of course that “prophetic word” that I was a seer, that the Lord called me a seer, was how it was explained to me – -that one false prophetic word that carried so much weight and so much importance and is the very thing that kept me pinned in under it all – and so it went.

I didn’t get into everything mentioned here, I didn’t go contemplative, or experience gold dust or make animal sounds, but what I did get into was enough to nearly destroy me. I think maybe it would have had I died practicing it. I don’t believe we get into heaven after following other gods.

While watching Todd Bentley early on during Lakeland, he said something that got my attention. He said that he could feel the “anointing” in his back. Well, so could I! And it was a new thing for me – a new experience that had just begun happening and I didn’t know why. I thought it odd, how someone who so misrepresented the Lord had the same experiences I did.

Kundalini?  But, from where?  I’m still not sure.

Just after that I began to have an overwhelming desire to practice yoga. I took a class long ago, very long ago, in high school. And I did it some in my home off and on over the years, but I hadn’t for a long time. So, when these thoughts to practice yoga came at me I thought it was strange that the desire was so strong, and I avoided getting involved. But, now I see the connection in what I have recently come to understand  – kundalini yoga.  Remember, kundalini is said to coil at the base of the spine – where I felt the anointing that I thought was of God.

I guess it is simple to say that satan comes at us in many forms and just leave it at that.  But, my inquiring mind won’t let things go so simply. I see so much connection in false Christianity and other religions. I see how these demons are passed from person to person like a virus, and nearly as easily. I am astounded, really at the lack of true discernment so many of us have had and for so long.

Please be careful in these times, they are dangerous. Christianity is slowly becoming something else, something not about the cross, but about people and their gifts, a presence, a feeling, an experience. Please know the people you allow to teach you and their associations. Be sure they are true followers and disciples of the one and only Jesus Christ, because as His word has warned us, many have come, and are still to come in His name! See that no one deceives you and steals your reward!

Final Preparations to Receive the New Age Christ

Full Article Here

by Prof. Johan Malan
Middelburg
South Africa (March 12, 2008)
www.bibleguidance.co.za

Another spirit

Satan’s spirit of error (cf. 1 John 4:6) is actively working in the world to blind people’s minds to the truths of the gospel, while guiding them on how to have mystical experiences and empowering them to perform signs and wonders with occult powers. The many demons which Satan has at his disposal are evil spirits who are sent out to deceive people, thereby advancing the interests of the kingdom of darkness. The following actions of these spirits are very evident in the time in which we live:

Strange phenomena. The New Age Movement and its associated false religions is at present focusing attention on the discovery and use of the miracle-working psychic powers of healing, as well as the promotion of various supernatural manifestations. Even at many Christian meetings strange phenomena are now common, e.g. falling (or slaying) in the spirit. Other phenomena, such as laughing in the spirit, prophesying in the spirit and dancing in the spirit, which result from this experience, are also attributed to the Holy Spirit. Many believers blindly accept these phenomena without testing the spirits, despite the danger of spurious satanic imitation in such manifestations. Most of the Word of Faith preachers create strong expectations of powerful manifestations of the Holy Spirit. However, there is no scriptural basis for the signs that allegedly occur at their meetings. There is also the phenomenon of gold-dust falling on the hands, arms or hair of those at the meetings, while some claimed that fillings in their teeth turned into gold! Another modern fad in this movement is the so-called “New Wine” meetings where people experience typical symptoms of drunkenness. This is accompanied by falling, dancing and laughing in the spirit, also pogo stick jumping and making a wide range of animal noises, such as barking like a dog, crowing like a rooster and roaring like a lion! Are not the claims that such highly dubious phenomena and extraordinary behaviour are attributable to the activity of the Holy Spirit quite blasphemous, grossly insulting to Him and detrimental to the Christian witness to the world? It is not difficult to see how ideally this suits Satan’s purpose to discredit the Christian faith and deceive as many as he can. The express purpose of deceiving spirits is to destroy the faith of believers and to mislead, confuse, corrupt, overshadow and control them with the power of deception.

A new spirituality. The deceiving spirit of Satan imitates the Holy Spirit and instills a new kind of spirituality in people. It is a spirit of self-exaltation, pride and arrogance which makes you very important and powerful in your own eyes because of the gifts you have received, the recognition you enjoy, the strong influence you have over people, and also because of your material wealth. The presence, power and gifts of this spirit become the dominating reality in your life, while Jesus is subtly moved to the background. This spirit instils nice and relaxed feelings in you so that you forget all your problems and sins. He does not convict of sin, always condones it, and has no problems to live with lies, deceit, distorted versions of the truth, and moral laxity. He gives people the false hope that they are saved and will go to heaven. He uses so-called ‘prophets’ as human mediators to convey messages to you about what God wants you to do. He also majors on extra-biblical revelations from God through dreams and visions. He removes guilt complexes on his own authority, without specific reference to the cross, and surrounds you with light and joy. You are ever dependent upon him. He guides you through a process of inner healing to a spiritual reprogramming of your life in which the scars of the past, and even from before your birth, are put right by self-healing, positive confession, hypnotic regression and the breaking of generation curses.

This new spirituality is contemplative. People are taught to switch over to their ‘right-brain’ through meditation, walking labyrinths and practicing mystical techniques such as yoga. They empty their minds by the using of mantras (the repetition of a single word or short phrase) which helps them descend to the deeper levels of their subconscious mind where they experience an altered state of consciousness. In this spiritual state some people meet spirit guides who teach or inform them, while others even hear voices speaking to them. There are also those who receive supernatural gifts such as prophesying, healing, tongues, astral travel, clairvoyance, and the performing of miracles.

This spirit also tells you that you are a king already, who has dominion on earth, and can claim and demand anything you like. You do not have to suffer poverty, disease or any other afflictions, and you can change anything through positive confession. You are in command of your life. He motivates people to organise transformation rallies as a means to usher in the kingdom of God on earth. He also makes his victims believe they can pull down demonic strongholds in any society by making use of strategic spiritual warfare. Any notable success is evading them as Satan will only be incarcerated when Christ comes (Rev. 20:1-3). In this dispensation, only individuals can be set free from the power of Satan – not entire cities or countries!

Berit Kjos posted a very helpful chart in which she indicates the transition from evangelical beliefs to the new spirituality: www.crossroad.to/charts/new-spirituality.htm From this chart it is evident that a spiritually blinded humanity explores mystical powers in its quest to become divine, united and in full control of its own destiny. People end up discovering a mystical christ in their own hearts (the god within) who guides them into gaining a position of dominion on earth.


Danger Looming – The Return of Todd Bentley

Todd Bentley Comeback video here

-via his pal Rick Joyner  – and Todd again under the guise of “Christian” ministry as Fresh Fire Ministries is up and burnin’ hot as hell.

It’s a computer comeback!!!  Time to get those old smelly feet in the proverbial water to test it out.  The wade-in is scheduled for September 10. I’m surprised it’s taken as long as it has, as I expected it much sooner than this.

The first 1500 people to sign up get a chance to be up close and personal with Todd to ask those deep, dark questions they always wanted the answers to! Here’s a chance for more lies and deception as Todd the opportunist makes the most of this one and makes his way back up the ladder via those who supported him the most!

Rick and Todd promised for this time of questioning NO ministry and NO cash begging as this time of deception is a free for all!  Hehe. It’s like the drug dealer in the back alley who finds his greatest addict is about to get clean. One more time, for free and you’ll be reeled right back in like a dead, lifeless fish.

Truthfully, I did not watch all of the announcement video, just long enough for a few details to get the warning out.  And long enough to hear about his summer vacation with his kiddies as he had a great and busy one taking them to amusement parks and such. Nothing wrong with that except for the fact that he more than likely paid for the fun from the donations to his “ministry”.

If you believed in Todd, trusted in Todd as a man of god, prayed for his restoration, were ever touched by his ministry of demonic impartation this day is for you! The man of maniacal laughter and spiritual drunkenness is returning.   And you better believe the Most High God is not the god this man is after!  You better repent and warn those you love and care about because if this crazy man gets a platform again who knows what will break out. Oh, and it will NOT be the Holy Spirit we know as the third person of the trinity as Joyner claims. But, it will be their (un)holy spirit – the one of fools and drunkenness.

Patricia King: The Wine Cellar of Whose Heaven?

I watched a video clip from Patricia King on another blogger’s site this morning.  It was very hard to sit through and listen.  It angered me to the point that I did not know if I should cry for them or scream.  But, I listened several times.  I went with Patricia to the word of God.  I read it with her.  I listened to her explain it back to her “followers”.  I replayed that section several times, listening to hear again and again. And I watched in horror as she claimed in the name of Jesus, the bar is open!

She tells them they can only get this through revelation. Of course, because we certainly can’t get it from the scripture she is using Hebrews 9:24 For Christ has not entered th holy places made with  hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us. She said she does not want to  – unpack it – was that the word she used – unpack?

Very well, I will  unpack it.

This chapter is about the new covenant through Jesus Christ, the remission of sins through His shed blood. But see how she is twisting the meaning to say it is about our ability to enter into heaven?  Where does she get this?  She says the words holy places mean heaven and that we can enter in. This is not what the scripture says at all. The words from the scripture say For Christ has not entered holy places made with hands.  To me holy places made with hands means man-made. There is not even a hint of the meaning of the word heaven in those words.

In case you care, there is nothing here about wine, either.

Then she goes on reading from the next chapter, 10:19 about entering in.  (It took me some time to figure out where she was reading this from as she does not say.) But what does this verse say?  Therefore brethren, having boldness to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus. But she says nothing about the blood of Jesus, she’s only interested in making her point, to enter in.  Going on she quotes out of verse 22 which says let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.  Again, nothing in context or in true meaning of what is being said here – again about sin. No, Patricia wants her point made – assurance of faith, if you have faith you can do this too!

Nothing she is stating here has any true biblical meaning.  And what do the people do?  They dance and sing for this to come to them, this great revelation, this great vision and experience of the wine room of heaven.  They are so convinced that Patricia King is the anointed one of God that they are willing to throw away their very salvation to experience the same as she!

Blind and be blind!!! It is documented in the bible that Satan twists the words of God to use for his purposes. He did it with Eve and he did it with Jesus. Do you see how she has laid the groundwork for this deception to come on the people?  She made an outrageous claim, used the word of God to back it up, and then brought in the musicians, the dancing, the emotional element!

What a liar she is and how deceived they are to want the wine she is pouring out for them. A wine that does not truly come from the God, the Most High, but from a god of trickery and deceit. The god of true drunkenness and rivalry, one that will surely separate people from God for all eternity to a place where no wine will be found for all time.

What does drunken behavior have to do with the living God? Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. If the fruit of the Spirit is gentleness and self-control how can this possibly be related to this drunkenness of God PK is claiming?  Where is there any self control going on in this crowd?

If you are involved in this, repent, leave these practices and be restored to wholeness in the Lord before it is too late!

Hebrews 10:29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God  underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.