A Shared Deception: The Lies We Believed

Finally, my friends! 

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What if one day you began to question and research some of the things you witnessed as a Christian? As a result, your research proved irrefutable evidence that you had been practicing another religion in the name of God.

What if the source of power behind your charismatic gifts of prophecy, healing, and dream interpretation attributed to the Holy Spirit proved to be another spirit all together?

Who could you turn to if everyone you knew believed the same as you?

A former seer-prophet and healing rooms minister shares her experiences and quest for spiritual truth and spiritual freedom. Journey with the author as she exposes the false teachings found deep within the false prophetic and healing movements coveted by much of the Christian church today.

 

Book Update

Book Update – Hi my loves. I wanted to update you. I think I’m about ready to put all my chapters together into book form for a final read/edit/possible quick re-write/whatever it is 🙂 in the next day or so to begin that process, then a cover and formatting. I will be self-publishing through Amazon with the help of my dear friend and sister who is also a published author. Thank you for all of your prayers and encouragement – this is finally going to come together! It is important that you know many of you have been players in this with me, simply through your kind words! You will never know how important they have been. 

I’ve included lots of scriptures and some basic information related to NAR, WOF, healing rooms, dreams and visions, the false prophetic, and named many players – how they connect, and work together to keep the deception alive and moving, how to identify them and false teaching, and how to get out. And I give a descriptive testimony of my involvement, how it happened, my experiences, and how I found the truth. 

Whew. Its been the result of nearly 10 years of research and learning. I am not a professional writer so right up front I will need to be forgiven that – lol! It’s been a huge journey and have witnessed my writing actually improving these last few weeks! I am learning a lot about myself and even more about the bible, things that I never expected to learn. It is a huge battle of emotions and fear and I won’t kid you, I have felt the presence of the demonic in my home on many occasions. The Lord prevails. 

God is good! He is Faithful and worthy of this time! I don’t know what my future will bring but I know this work must be completed and I am thankful that through the Lord’s grace I have been forgiven and am alive and sane – and honored – to offer help to others. 

I pray many people who need the info will be able to identify, repent and help others do the same. I’ve written it from a do-the-reading-research-for-yourself perspective because I want readers to understand and grasp the importance of a true Berean and to develop discernment because the days we will face ahead will be dark. I know the road out of charismania to be a most difficult one, and I don’t take the work lightly and the struggle that many people face in doing so. Thank you, Lord, for all you have given and for all you have done! I am truly not worthy. Love and blessings my friends.  M’Kayla

An Encounter With A Madman..or Two..

AN IMPORTANT UPDATE:

I am pleased and thankful to provide notice that the man named in this article, Tim Wirth, has left Moriel and all of its associations. Tim reports that the Lord opened his eyes to the wrongdoings at Moriel and has resigned because of the things he witnessed. He now works to expose the error in prayerful hopes that others will recognize the same. We know Jacob Prasch has waned worse and worse in compromise and decimation of the word of God, and that he continues to rail and insult anyone who stands against him. So, again, beware.

Blessings,

M’Kayla

Several years ago I came upon the teachings and writings of a very well known teacher, Jacob Prasch. We have had a little bit of discussion regarding his teachings and his not so nice temperament when others came forward and told of their experiences. I believe I have lost some readers because of his cruelty toward them.

Since there is always two sides to a story I was bothered, but moved on. Well, now I have had my own encounter and this is what I am here to expose. Here is where I will ask your forgiveness. I understand now the gravity of his abuse yet remain shaken.

Believe me, I am not happy to write this but it must be said.

For the last year, I have been listening to him quite a bit. I joined a couple of Moriel Friends groups on Facebook, most importantly for our discussion, Friends of Moriel TV, created and moderated by Tim Wirth. Tim has become involved with Moriel creating videos and doing radio work for the Moriel ministry. I became friends with Tim on Facebook a while back after he found  my blog. He commended me for my work and we often exchanged ideas and short conversation through the private message option on Facebook. I grew to believe I could trust him which was a mistake, in retrospect.

A few days ago, Friends of Moriel TV, put out several videos that addressed the topic of women teaching men, coverings, why they “need a Mordecai”, etc. The teaching in these videos by Jacob was poorly done, more personal opinion than scripture. The points made were, well, not made – disjointed thoughts with very little scriptural backing. We would expect more from a man who is known for his claims of biblical knowledge and understanding of scripture, history and context in several languages.

I began to discuss these videos with a dear friend of mine as both of us were quite concerned. One of our concerns was the way the other women in the group reacted to his teachings. When I say cult-like I am not being dramatic. One poor woman stated that she is waiting for her Mordecai. Huh?

I posed a comment in the group for Jacob. You see, if women are indeed to remain silent, or to teach only women, why is it that I, and many other women like me, who are not married and not involved in a church – aka – not under a “covering” able to speak and explain the word of God?

Here is my comment that I copied from the Moriel group, tagging Tim Wirth –

M’Kayla Kelly Tim Wirth – I would like to pose a question in using my own experience and the work I have done which you are aware of. I am not married, I do not belong to a church. Yet, my work in exposing the false teachings of the International Association of Healing Rooms, the false prophetic movement, John Paul Jackson’s dreams and visions, etc., has proved to be quite effective in helping many, many people. This includes men. And it extends beyond just the blogging as I have communicated through e-mail and had telephone conversations with both women and men who have come to me for help. I have been put in the position to expose and to confront the male pastors and ministry leaders I once worked side by side with regarding their deceptive teachings and followings.

I feel something very important has been left out in these videos regarding women. I have a great respect for Jacob – have prayed for him and his family, the ministry, illness, and have often times defended his teaching to those who do not understand midrash, etc., and unfortunately would rather spread gossip about him than listen to the truth. As I have told you, I hold Jacob in high regard and respect.

Given the fact that God knows everything, it comes to no surprise to him that one day women would be operating in these areas, without supposed need for a Mordecai “covering”. In addition, the scriptures make a clear distinction between wives and women.

There is evidence in deeper study, certain women were restricted for specific reasons, during a specific time frame, but it did not apply to all women throughout all time. I am only a bit familiar with the thinking of St Augustine regarding women, which is horrendous, yet I am seeing it reflected in these videos. We can name Piper, McArthur, the list is long…

I am thankful the Lord restored my mind and my relationship with him. All the learning I did in coming out of the deception in 2008 was through him. There was no one to help me understand, yet through the Holy Spirit the truth of scripture unfolded, resulting in the ability to expose the false doctrine and lead others out, and yes, teach men as well. A great burden was placed on me to right the wrong I had done through my own false witness, false prophetic words and in being a leader in these things. It was huge to me and the grief was worse than what I experienced in the loss of my daughter. However, it was never my plan to do these things, it just happened that way, thru the leading and yes – blessing of the Lord.

I blog, I have done 4 interviews through the internet, blogtalk and a couple of others, and I am currently writing a book and am considering my own blogtalk radio.

Do men listen to me? Yes, they do and just as we see in the NT, they commend me for it. And you are one of those men, Tim. I am asking Jacob to rethink these videos because I believe they are damaging and doing an injustice to Christian women who are being led to battle, side by side with the men just as we have been doing throughout time. And as I said, there is evidence that women had more freedom in the NT than what is being presented.

As for a covering, mine is named Jesus Christ. Please consider there are women all over the world who will tell you the same as I have. We are not usurping men. We are not Jezebels. We are not out of sync. We are certainly not hens. We are true Christian women who are fighting for the cause of Christ in the hopes of saving others. We are the women who know one day it may be necessary to lay down our lives for our faith. Please Jacob, I am respectfully asking you to reconsider. And don’t insist we wear the spiritual burqa, as I for one, will not. There is too much at stake.

Just after I posted this comment, I also sent it to Moriel.org, yet told no one I had done this. Shortly afterward, Tim began to private message me which went on for quite a few hours that same day and began again early the next morning. You see, Tim stated he has read my blog and found it to be quite helpful, yet he stated that what I did was not actually “teaching doctrine”.  He kept trying to reassure me that no one had called me a Jezebel, which I never thought or claimed had taken place. He seemed desperate in his attempts and could not seem to understand that I had several times simply requested that my comment be passed to Jacob for review.

Let me add, I do not care whether or not a person believes I am teaching doctrine. I have settled the “woman shut up and sit down” argument years ago after doing research on my own.  I was remiss to not post it here on my blog, but there had been so much going on in my life and things I needed to do pertaining to the blog that I lost sight of it. My apologies.

My concern, if Jacob has such a deep knowledge of the bible and the original languages, why does he come to completely different conclusions than others who have the same kind of education and knowledge? I am speaking of The Key Word Hebrew-Greek Study Bible, edited by Spiros Zodhiates. Or, the writings of Richard and Katherine Clark-Kroeger in “I Suffer Not a Woman”. And I know there are more to be listed but theses will suffice for the point.

I have no qualms and no problem accepting the order God has put in place. I do however believe that women have been given much more freedom to minister in their gifts than man has allowed. I believe in proper context the bible is quite clear on this topic. To proclaim and teach otherwise, Dear Reader, is a grave injustice to the work of the cross.

Here is the response, in video form and posted to the group from Jacob Prasch  and Tim Wirth – believe me, it is not pretty.

I wanted to asked the Imam, because these restrictive teachings sound more like Islam than they do Christianity, when’s the stoning?

I immediately said my peace after watching this wretched mess from a madman, and left the group. Tim unfriended me without cause. I don’t understand how it is we cannot have civil and meaningful conversation. What are they so afraid of?

Ephesians 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner in the Lord, beseech you to walk worthily of the calling wherewith ye were called, 2with all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; 3giving diligence to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4There is one body, and one Spirit, even as also ye were called in one hope of your calling; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6one God and Father of all, who is over all, and through all, and in all.

There will be more to come regarding what I believe to be biblical regarding women. This will be done with a group of friends so expect to see it on another blog as well as this one.

Blessing and Peace in Jesus. And thank you all for your encouragement, love and prayers over the years. I pray we STAND.

A Berean

Worth a repeat. Blessings on your journey as a Berean.

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Since the time the Lord brought me out of the false healing movement (International Association of Healing Rooms), the false prophetic and false dream/visions it has been my hope to help others see the truth. Through the leading of the Lord, his great love and mercy, I have seen that take place, time and again. During the past 8 1/2 years, I have learned a great deal and oftentimes the learning has been the result of the gifts and love of my brothers and sisters in Christ, most often than not, other bloggers as well as my readers.

For these moments I am deeply grateful as I have seen the Lord bring together believers who were, and still are without a meeting place. Yet, it was in the early days, between the months of April, 2008 and June, 2009 when I, like Mary, who sat at the feet of Jesus…

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Signs in the Heavens

I’ve been pondering and doing some research the recent US solar eclipse, the date of September 23, the 12th Chapter of Revelation, and the many claims, theories, and warnings of biblical signs from the Lord regarding upcoming disaster, among other things.

We need to be careful and clarify what exactly constitutes biblical signs and what does not. On a personal note, I am still hashing out my own end-time beliefs as to what we are to look for in the days ahead. However, I cannot come to the same conclusions surrounding these theories, even though they have become quite popular, and taught by some persons who, up until this point, have had my respect.

The Solar Eclipse

Many people believe the solar eclipse last month on August 21, 2017, was a warning from the Lord regarding an impending period of judgment. Others claim it was a warning for repentance. I have searched the scriptures and have yet to find even one passage that clearly states the Lord will send a solar eclipse as warning for either.

The US experienced a total eclipse of the sun only in some areas. Other areas experienced a partial eclipse, and still others were not affected by it at all. I must ask if the eclipse was a sign from God then why wasn’t a total eclipse seen in all parts of the world? Or if it had been a warning for the US only then why wasn’t the eclipse seen throughout the entire country? But even then, why is the US being singled out, when societies all over the world live in sin and rebellion to the Lord? In any of these scenarios, wouldn’t it be God’s will that all people see His sign and repent and/or be warned of impending His judgment? Didn’t Christ die for all?

God’s Judgment

Revelation 6:12-14 clearly explains the signs that will immediately precede God’s upcoming judgment of mankind. These passages state that the sun becomes black as sackcloth and the moon like blood. The eclipse we witnessed that day did not fit this description. Yes, as I previously pointed out, the sun went dark in some areas, and lost only some of its light in others. The moon did not turn red or as blood. The events of the scripture will be much more dramatic than the solar eclipse!

In addition, we will also consider the words of Jesus in Matthew 24:29, Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

I have placed emphasis on the first four words of this scripture because they are most important to our understanding in a true biblical context. They point us to a time that has not yet taken place, after the tribulation, and we have not completed the tribulation period yet! Please see also Joel 2:30-31.

I believe when these events take place they will be witnessed by everyone worldwide. These are the true biblical signs which signal the onset of God’s judgment, and are to occur just before the actual rapture of the church, as described in Matthew 24:30-31. When this day finally comes there will be no mistake about the signs. They will be serious, and sudden, and no one will be throwing parties or taking “selfies” on their cell phones as they did with the recent eclipse. The people of the earth will be horrified and will attempt to hide themselves away to escape the horror.

I’m not so sure that we have even entered into the time of the tribulation period, although I am willing to consider that as a possibility. I also understand that some of my readers will not agree with me as they may have a different idea as to the timing of end time events. Some do not believe we will go through any of the tribulation period. I say this as an aside, and not to avert attention from our topic’s focus which is current events in the heavens.

September 23 The Great Sign, and Revelation 12

A group of men and women who call themselves “theologians” believe specific signs in the sky will occur on September 23 of this year, some based on Revelation 12. This event, known as The Great Sign, includes two different yet related star constellations known as Virgo (The Virgin) and Leo (The Lion), symbols also associated with the Zodiac. The theologians have attempted to debunk the idea that their teaching has any connection to the actual Zodiac or the practice of astrology. They rightly believe the Zodiac is used for the occult practice of divination in the telling of future personal events and information, much like that of a psychic. They believe the Great Sign theory is based only on God’s creation of the stars that we know as astronomy, used for the telling of future biblical events. I do not agree that a difference exists, because both methods utilize the formation of stars to predict future events.

During this time the planets will align in a great convergence, also considered a sign in the heavens. (I can’t help but say this reminds me of a song in the 1960’s – when Jupiter aligns with Mars – The Age of Aquarius. Popular yes, a valid biblical sign, not at all.) Will the planets align? Probably so, but this should not be considered as a biblical sign.

Revelation 12 is a fascinating and historical account of the bible told in symbolism. It begins with the nation of Israel and ends with the destruction of Satan. It is a glorious picture, and I have always found the book a fascinating read.

Please see Deuteronomy 18:9-14 which includes warnings against the practice of divination and the interpretation of omens. I don’t believe these theologians take much importance to the Lord’s warnings since that is exactly what they are doing.  Either they do not understand, or they simply believe the warnings do not apply to them.

I don’t come to the same conclusion as these theologians as I don’t find a proper context of scripture that support their theories. Therefore I do not hold their theories any validity other than to sadly say they too have been deceived. Every year we receive similar warnings for the month of September, and each year they come to nothing. Each time they are announced they become more than tiresome. I wonder when the date-setters will wake up and stop doing what they have been told cannot be done. Jesus stated that no one knows the hour of His return, no one, not even the angels. The only One who knows the timing is God the Father, the Creator of all things.

The truth has been entrusted to the church, or as we now call it, the remnant. As such, we should be much more concerned the seriousness of these false warnings of woe year after year. The last thing we want is for the unsaved to stop hearing the gospel message and turn a deaf ear to salvation!

Many things are happening on the earth as we speak. We may be witnessing the wondrous beginnings of the end time events, and for that we are blessed. But let’s also be wise and pray for understanding and discernment because we are told how these events will play out and what signs to watch for so that we are prepared.

Let us also take into consideration that we carry the precious name of Christ, and that the future of many lost souls depend on our knowledge and our words. The scriptures are our best defense from deception.

Connecting False Teaching to False Worship

I was the lead intercessor for the Vancouver Vineyard Prayer and Healing Rooms, which was located in Vancouver, WA. They were under the “umbrella” of the International Association of Healing Rooms, in Spokane, WA, headed by Cal Pierce, whose doctrine and beliefs mirror that of Bill Johnson, Bethel.

Like many others I loved to worship God to sing to Him. I began to collect an assortment of worship CD’s to use while we “soaked” to prepare for the “prayer ministry”. My favorite was Misty Edwards of International House of Prayer, Mike Bickel. I wasn’t crazy about Bickel’s teaching, but I loved IHOP’s music. And so I used it as often as I could, along with a mix of other popular artists at that time.

Jesus warned us in Matthew 24:4-5 to see to it that no one deceives us. It is a statement that is of utmost importance, yet one that is easily overlooked. However, I had often prayed that prayer, and though I was allowed to be involved in some very bad teaching and crazy supernatural experiences, God eventually opened my eyes to the truth and by His grace and love led me out.

The bible gives us a great number of warnings about false teachers and false prophets. We are told to test these things, to flee and to warn others to do the same. See 2 John, 2 Peter 2, Romans 16:17-18. Paul called them out by name, 2 Timothy 2:16-18, and warned others day and night for years in tears so they would not be taken in Acts 20:28-31.

Music is an extremely powerful force and is one that will be used to worship the Beast when the time comes. See Daniel 3, Revelation 13. I believe we are seeing pre-cursors to that and have been for some time. It is so important we leave behind what sounds good to us, or what feels good and right to us and test these things according to the word of God – Acts 17:11, 2 Timothy 2:15.

I am fully convinced that the demonic uses “worship” music as a type of conjuring, to bring up the demonic forces that are part of these organizations’ false teachings. Where false teaching exists, false worship follows along side, and the bible calls such teacher accursed – Galatians 1:8-9. It is a widely known fact that the most beautiful music comes from organizations who teach of another gospel.

Just as with false teaching there is a bit of a lie, the same holds for the music. Oftentimes the false teaching is accepted because it sounds good. The same applies to their music – it sounds good. It appeals to our flesh, to our senses and we are pulled in and trapped. It does not matter that the words they sing are true because the foundation is false. There will always be a mixture of truth and the lie. This is why I understand that when we sing these songs we are worshiping the false jesus, the one Paul warned about. He also stated if we allowed it, we would put up with it- 2 Corinthians 11:4. If you are drawn to this music and feel you need it for worship, this is what he spoke of, to be taken in and controlled by it.

Worship is about God. It should never be about how it makes us feel, but how it lifts up the truth of the Lord in telling Him how great He is for all He has done for us! There is such a huge difference. And there is more to worship than music, it is how we live our lives in submission to God and not to ourselves.

I often hear Christians defend the music of Bethel, Jesus Culture, Morningstar, IHOP, Hillsong, and all the rest because it’s so beautiful and uplifting to the hearer. But my friends, we are told that Satan comes as an angel of light with a great power to deceive, 2 Corinthians 11:14, he is beautiful, and he once held the place of worship leader in heaven- Isaiah 14:11-14.

This should give us great pause to question who we are truly singing about and where it comes from. If the doctrine is false the worship is false, and the two cannot be separated. Please don’t be deceived. We are called to be pure. Bust up your CD’s and delete your links! Sing your own songs! Be blessed in your freedom from all the works of darkness while there is still time. God is a jealous God and we must worship Him in spirit and in truth!

 

The Right Way to Hear from God

I believe this teaching by Bob DeWaay will be helpful to anyone coming out of the clutches of the false prophetic and “how to hear from God”, the popular “emergent” practices of Lectio Divina and contemplative prayer.

I would suggest a very slow and careful study of the scriptures a bit at a time for those who are struggling with understanding. Oftentimes, the word of God should be lingered on and savored over as you would a fine piece of chocolate. Remember learning is not a race.

I will add, there is nothing good to be learned from Beth Moore and I am not afraid to state another warning to stay far from her.
Blessings all!

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“When good men do nothing, they are no longer good.”

“…….when good men do nothing, they are no longer good…… the choice is yours, whichever way one chooses, it’s going to be unpleasant; but only one way leads to truth. What’s the cost and the value? What price will you pay and what will you have of value at the end of it all?”

Closingstages

by Pat Rogers

2 John 11 “For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

No, Jacob Prasch, this one isn’t really about you, you have already been weighed and found wanting. This is about those who surround you.

There’s an old saying…Do something, even if it’s wrong. Think about this….all of this started from asking questions of Jacob (ironically, he was wanting questions). How wrong is that? But at least something was done, more and more light continues to be shed on Jacob Prasch’s conduct and teachings.

At the end of this article, will be a list of other articles that show some of the misquotes, contradictions, lies and error that Jacob Prasch speaks and teaches. Along with, what I am now calling his rage video’s (although there are more than these only a few are included).

His pattern is  one of rage and insults to those…

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