Movies that Imitate Christianity, Blogtalk – Susan Puzio

I just had another blogtalk with Susan Puzio addressing some of the things I had previously been involved with. We also looked at the NRB Proclaim 16 conference that went on this past week, the speakers and contributors and the movies that are being released.

I see there is a mix of Christianity, Catholicism with influences of other beliefs, most of which will not be backed up in scripture. Have a listen, watch the movie trailers linked at Proclaim 16 on the footer that I spoke of and use the information to help others avoid these pitfalls. With all the information we have available it is easy to connect the dots. By using our bible as reference it is just as easy to recognize false doctrine coming from these movies.

We need to rid ourselves of emotions and think clearly and soberly at these deceptions which will grow stronger and more convincing as time goes on. There is a real coming together of religions forming as one. The media, entertainment sectors of our society, as well as our government are helping it take shape. Many are blind and need help to see.

Movies that imitate real Christianity

References:

NRB “Mission Statement”

Proclaim 16 

Building the Sphere of Media Influence

Media Sphere Promotes Another False Jesus

Seth Dunn’s Review of War Room Movie

Seven Mountains Defined (not condoning the prophetic voice of C Jacobs)

Roots of Seven Mountains

Healing Room Beliefs

Grave Sucking Bethel

 

(Correction – During our chat I stated that Jesus warned us that many would come in His name and deceive as located in Matthew 18. That would be Matthew 24! oops!)

Building the Sphere of Media Influence

1 John 2:15 Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. 17 The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever.

Upcoming next month, Proclaim 16

Proclaim 16, the NRB International Christian Media Convention, is a four-day, jam-packed event that connects, equips, and edifies thousands of Christian communicators – from broadcasters to producers, writers to publishers, managers to pastors, artists to consultants. This is a “must attend” event for Christian communicators. You will hear outstanding internationally known speakers and artists, have the opportunity to attend numerous networking events, and receive helpful industry insights.

If you’ve attended before, you know the Convention is only half of the attraction. Experience our award-winning Exposition, featuring approximately 200 companies. The booths of the exhibit floor make up an active marketplace of products and services that can expand and enhance your organization. From innovative ideas and endeavors to must-have tools and equipment to organizations that influence millions around the world, the Expo has it all!

This event is a coming together under what can only be described the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) 7 Mountains, the sphere of Media/Entertainment. If you aren’t familiar with the 7 Mountains, it’s based on the premise that we, as believers, must take over the world for Christ. Until this is accomplished Christ cannot return, the belief which is commonly referred to as “dominionism”. There are believed to be 7 areas (spheres, mountains, etc.) of societal or cultural influence, being Religion, Family, Education, Government, Media, Arts/Entertainment, Business. The 7 Mountains came around years back when scripture from 2 Corinthians 10 was taken out of context and applied as  personal direction to a small group of Christian friends. Since that time, the concept has been popularized by many people – C Peter Wagner, Cindy Jacobs, Bill Johnson, Rick Joyner, etc., and the most well known teacher of this theory is Lance Wallnau. For more information, please refer to  7 Mountain – Dominion and New Apostolic Reformation Categories here on my blog.

As the quote above states  scheduled speakers, include Rick Warren, Roma Downey, and the Kindrick Brothers, combined with supporters such as TBN, CBN, Regent University. See here for a line up of speakers, and here for the detailed schedule.

We know from previous research that Rick Warren is heavily into supporting what he terms Chrislam, the combining of Christian beliefs with Islam. We are also aware of his peace plan which mirrors that of the United Nations and that his methods for promoting Christianity is far from scriptural as with everything else he does.

We know that Roma Downey is Catholic and her version of what she deems Christianity is much different from that of the bible. Yet she and her husband have made a name for themselves through the media and false teaching.

We know that the Kindrick Brothers create some great movies- but at the core they are based on emotionalism, which is of the flesh and their themes are grounded in word of faith teaching. Their last movie The War Room starred a woman who heavily promotes contemplative prayer, who isn’t even an actress. I will not discount the thought there is a deliberate connection between the two. Having been an “intercessor” with an organization which had a “war room” I can attest these ideas are rooted in pride. Yes, we are called to pray, but not in the way this movie and word of faith teaches. Please understand that there is a difference. Read a well-written and informative review of the movie here.

We know the organizations of Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) and Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN, 700 Club) both promote false prophets and teachers of charismania, word of faith, the supernatural of false dreams and visions, etc.

We know that we are warned in scripture to not do as the pagans or unbelievers and to not be like them and have discussed this point often in exposing false teachings and the practice of other religions as part of Christianity.

We know that in the end times there will be a joining together of religions and this is the main concern I have with these types of gatherings. As with this event we can clearly see this taking place. Many of us are already aware because of the deception going on inside churches and para-church organizations as we have witnessed our churches becoming something other than what they once were and our warnings to wake up go unheeded.

Aside from that is also the fact that this method of spreading the gospel is based on man-made effort of the world and not on the reliance of the Holy Spirit and spiritual gifts, the things that set us apart from the world.

Instead, we see some of the most well known and influential people deemed as Christians joining forces with the Hollywood movie and film industry. We should seriously stop and think about that last point because most everything coming out of Hollywood shows a vehement hate for God and Christianity as a whole. Do I also need to point out the horror stories of forced sex, rape and molestation that goes along with Hollywood careers of wanna-be and established actors and actresses?

So why do these “movers and shakers” of Christianity join forces with them? I believe we have already had that answer given to us which we should take great heed to understand – Matthew 24. I would find it safe, though very sad to say that most of the speakers and exhibitors listed in the links above no longer stand for Jesus Christ. This is why our care and concern is needed when one claims to come in the name of Jesus and offers to teach others. And yes, they will often give the basics of the gospel correctly, but it is what they do and say after those words that will tell whether they are truly of God. It is also defined in who they join forces with. These are areas that we need to pay close attention to. It is not enough that someone uses the name of Jesus.

What is the fruit? Is it money? Is it fame and fortune? I believe this to be the case for Proclaim 16, as I see it as a set up for what is coming on the earth. Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world (John 8:36 )! Why are they trying to make it as though it is?

Have nothing to do with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. Ephesians 5:11

 

 

In The Name of Purpose

Looks like some more good purpose driven information here. The book is available for free download and also may be purchased in hardback and paperback form.

In The Name of Purpose by Tamara Hartzell

This link will bring up other book options including one on the emergent church. I haven’t read any of her work but I am trusting it as well and good because it came endorsed from a party I do trust.

America’s Pastor, and Another Move for One World Religion

Nearly 4 years ago, Rick Warren posed  – yes – posed the inaugural prayer for Obama. At the end of his words he stated “in the name of Isa”. Is there NOW any wonder left for us as to why he said such a thing, being famed as “America’s Pastor”? 

One world religion, anyone?

Adding a new article to this listing found here – Rick Warren and…

Warren openly attempts to unite Christians and Muslims –

The Rev. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest and one of America’s most influential Christian leaders, has embarked on an effort to heal divisions between evangelical Christians and Muslims by partnering with Southern California mosques and proposing a set of theological principles that includes acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.  read more

could be an uprising…

There is enough connection between the upcoming Awakening 2011, the Purpose Driven ~everything~, the P.E.A.C.E. plan, ObamaCare, the Daniel Diet, Rick Warren together with Tony Blair and the upcoming presidential election to know these are not simply ships passing in the night.

This is an uprising.

American.

Antichrist.

Maybe both.

Twenty years ago who of us would have thought we would see this coming together under the guise of Christianity?

I considered there had to be a connection between Mike Huckabee and Rick Warren, then I came across this article written by James Sundquist. It’s another piece of the puzzle.

Mike Huckabee: Purpose-Driven President 2012? His Church is!

I am a conservative Christian and at first was interested in supporting Mike Huckabee for President, after hearing him stand up for Creation and oppose Evolution on the CNN Republican Presidential Debate.

However, upon researching his biography, other statements he has made, and the teachings promoted by his church, I discovered the following, so I can tell you now why I am not supporting Mike Huckabee for President.

Just when I thought maybe when we had a good prospect running for President….Well I wish I had good news for you!

I think you and your people should know where Republican President Candidate Mike Huckabee stands on Rick Warren.

Huckabee says,

“Our church in Little Rock is very similar to Rick Warren’s. We’ve gone from 25 members to about 5,000 in eight years. Our focus has been to minister to people who were otherwise neglected. We built a ministry center before we even had a sanctuary. We held our services in warehouses until a year or two ago.” The center contains a range of faith-based initiatives: welfare to work, job training, programs for recovering alcoholics and drug addicts, a food bank. “We are a multicultural, multiracial congregation, with rich and poor,” Huckabee says. “I play the bass in the Praise band.” SOURCE: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1599708,00.html

It is a lot like Rick Warren’s church all right. Here is his church’s website:

http://www.churchatrockcreek.org/

which promotes Warren’s Celebrate Recovery,

won Warren’s Church Health Award:

“Since 1999, Purpose-Driven ministries have honored four to six churches each year that have shown excellence in adapting the Purpose-Driven paradigm to their congregation. With thousands of churches having participated in the “40 Days of Purpose” discipleship program in recent months, Purpose-Driven decided to honor 79 churches this year. Each church received a check for $1,000.

The Southern Baptist congregations receiving a 2004 Church Health Award were:
The Southern Baptist congregations receiving a 2004 Church Health Award were:

Bay Area Fellowship, Corpus Christi, Texas

Brookwood Community Church, Greenville, S.C.

Centro Familiar Cristiano Betesda, Orange, Calif.

The Church at Rock Creek, Little Rock, Ark.”
SOURCE: http://www.baptistpress.net/bpnews.asp?ID=18346

And here is a quote from Huckabee’s teaching pastor Greg Kirskey’s sermon entitled Fire Extinguisher…available on the church website:

“No human emotion poses a greater threat to our health and happiness than fear.”
And this is posted by Huckabee’s Senior Pastor Mark Evans:

” Mark Evans is the founder and Senior Pastor of The Church at Rock Creek. Understanding that many people don’t go to church because it is boring and irrelevant, Mark began Rock Creek in 1995. Believing that people really do matter to God, Rock Creek has grown from 25 people to over 5,000 attending the weekend services. Rock Creek was featured in Church Growth magazine’s list of “The 100 Fastest Growing Churches in America.”
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The community-focused ministries at Rock Creek – a hands on computer lab, an employment training agency, a food bank, and a car repair ministry – led President Bush to select The Church at Rock Creek as the backdrop for a discussion about the role faith-based organizations play in changing the landscape of America.
And of course, RIck Warren’s PEACE Plan and Discovery Classes:

DISCOVER YOUR MISSION

The Hall of Fame Class is the fourth class in Rock Creek’s Life Development Process. In this class you will learn how to connect other people to God by using your story of how He has worked in your life. You will also be introduced to the P.E.A.C.E. Plan, a radical missions approach that is a key part of how Rock Creek does missions. In addition, we will help you develop and execute your own personal mission statement.

THE P.E.A.C.E. PLAN

Rock Creek does missions through a radical new strategy called the P.E.A.C.E. Plan. Through P.E.A.C.E. your small group will become equipped to address the world’s five global giants: spiritual lostness, corrupt leadership, poverty, disease and lack of education.

The P.E.A.C.E. plan is designed to mobilize ordinary church members to do normal tasks that can change the world. Everyone can participate through personal, local, and global P.E.A.C.E. projects. God can and will use you and our missions team is here to help you get started.

If you are not ready to go overseas, there are personal and local dimensions to this strategy that do not require any travel at all. Rock Creek’s Hall of Fame Class prepares you to live out the P.E.A.C.E. Plan.

And of course Warren’s baseball diamond: http://www.churchatrockcreek.org/lifedevelopment.htm

And like Warren, Huckabee is a graduate of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.

Any questions?

Therefore, you have to ask your self, do you want a sold-out Warrenite to be your next President?

I am afraid to even ask him what his position is on Israel!

Blessings,

James Sundquist
Director
Rock Salt Publishing

DISCLAIMER:  Rock Salt Publishing was founded by author James Sundquist as a volunteer discernment ministry to assist those who have been affected by the abuse of ecclesiastical power or false doctrine.  The contents of all of the emails, articles, blogs, books and broadcasts have been researched very thoroughly and carefully.  Where applicable, both documentation and supportive Scripture references are provided.  It is a very serious matter to bring charges against any organization or individual, and therefore if anyone reading these charges is able to substantiate that they are false, please bring this to our attention.

Saddleback Criticized!!!

2 Corinthians 6:14-15 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? 15 And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever?

Apparently, Rick Warren “pastor” of Saddleback has received a bit of criticism in response to his “Daniel Plan” and subsequent teaching given by the three experts – Oz, Hymen, and Amen.

Imagine that!

Lighthouse Trails has produced an informative article exposing exactly why this practice should be avoided and all that it entails.

Saddleback’s Response to Criticism Over Daniel Plan– An Unscriptural Paradox!



Peace in a Globalized Society

Hi Guys!

I haven’t listened to all of this video, but wanted to put the link up so that you can become more aware of what was discussed.

The place of faith in the transformation of societies in North Africa was a key area of the conversation. Tony Blair said:

“All over the region, as their societies become more open, they will have people of different faiths. It is essential to begin that dialogue. If we can also establish a faith dialogue and partnership, that in itself will be of major importance. It is far more likely that democratic systems will take root and will deliver prosperity and opportunity if there is an open and respectful attitude, according dignity to those of another faith. Whilst being completely true to their tradition and religion, people can be open also to others of a different religion.”

Tony Blair and Rick Warren also took head on the misconception that engaging with those of other faiths means a dilution of one’s own religious beliefs.

Pastor Rick stated: “Interfaith dialogue doesn’t mean compromising your faith; it means understanding somebody else’s and not watering it down. We’re not trying to find the lowest common denominator we’re saying, ‘But how can we get along?'”

Rick Warren and Tony Blair  – Saddleback Civil Forum

 

We live, work and play in a world that is made up of many religions. As Christians we are called to love and to preach the gospel to everyone. We are not called to promote peace in a “globalized society”.  We are not called to find a “common good” between people so that we can all get along together. (We already do that!) There is no good in any of us.  Nor should we be manipulated by rulers or apostates to follow them in finding methods to share the faith separate from what has been laid out for us in scripture.

There will be no true peace until Jesus Christ returns and sets up His own kingdom. We cannot begin that process without Him and He will be the only one to initialize it. Until then all efforts are futile. Watch who you walk after.

Isaiah 9:6-8

6 For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of His government and peace
There will be no end,
Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
To order it and establish it with judgment and justice
From that time forward, even forever.
The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

Matthew 16:26

26 For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?

Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?

Rick Warren and…

A collection of links and articles written by others that will show who and what Rick Warren is involved with.  (Also see previous article.)

This page may be updated in the future. If you have references, please send them in if you wish.:)

Rick Warren Endorses 2013 Book, “Catholics Come Home” – Calls Catholic Evangelization “Critically Important”

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=11347

See what “America’s Pastor” is saying about this 2013 release on the Roman Catholic” new evangelization program to bring back the “lost [Protestant] brethren” to the “Mother Church”:

Warren openly attempts to unite Christians and Muslims –

The Rev. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest and one of America’s most influential Christian leaders, has embarked on an effort to heal divisions between evangelical Christians and Muslims by partnering with Southern California mosques and proposing a set of theological principles that includes acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.  read more

Crosstalk Blog

We are reminding readers of the use of the term “leaven” in Galatians 5:9 in regard to false teaching. How does leaven work? We all know. A small amount placed in the dough will leaven all of it.

Rick Warren and John Piper as Keynote Speakers, Aspire Conference

A Photo with Steve Camp Says it All

The seduction of the “Reformed” camp by Rick Warren continues apace. The Tweet in the photo is by Steve Camp from last June, a man who spent  a number of years exposing the Purpose-Driven false gospel only to do a 180-degree turnaround recently.

PRN Newswire:

Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair to Join Rick Warren in one-on-one discussion

LAKE FOREST, Calif., March 1, 2011 /PRNewswire/ — Dr. Rick Warren and Saddleback Church will host Tony Blair on Sunday, March 6 at the Civil Forum on Peace in A Globalized Economy.

Lake Forest Patch:

Tony Blair to give tickets to Saddleback attendees

Christian Post:

Pastor’s Convention Aim to Plant More Churches

We don’t need another conference or more sermons…but what we need is a fresh awakening, a fresh outpouring of the Holy Spirit that would begin something that would literally change the world, said Pitman, who is also the lead pastor of Hope Baptist Church in Las Vegas, Nev.

This convention is the Aspire Conference linked in the first article The quoted comment sounds just like those involved in charismania who constantly look for the next move, the next outpouring as though God needs to do something more for us than He already has. The true message is one of repentance. It is our responsibility to respond to God in heeding the message already laid out. Planting churches is a great goal if there is proper need. But in looking at the big picture, these men are no longer bringing a gospel message, but one mixed with many other focuses. When the message of the cross has become “Jesus and” it is no longer the true gospel. It has become heretical.

Chuck Colson Breakpoint:

Video Series by Chuck Colson and Rick Warren -Christian leaders Chuck Colson and Rick Warren have joined together to produce a stimulating study called Wide Angle: Framing Your Worldview.

Keep in mind the previous push for signatures on the Manhattan Declaration. Is it a wonder Chuck Colson has also teamed up with Warren being they are both “purpose driven”? When I hear the word “worldview” it makes me think dominionism or one world religion/government. I know some who use this word do not have that in their view or teaching, but many others do and we will see that connection between those who have evil intent.

Lighthouse Trails Blog:

3 Contemplative Proponents -Leonard Sweet, Rick Warren, and Mark Driscoll – Named Among “Top 10 Most Influential Christians” of 2010

“What influenced the choices were their accomplishments in 2010, polling data and frequency of mention in the press.”1 What the article does not say though is that all three of these “leaders” in Christianity are contemplative proponents, which means that in view of this huge influence, thousands and thousands are being influenced toward contemplative spirituality (a belief system that ultimately leads to New Age thinking).

Lighthouse Trails has some very good reference material regarding the New Age and false christs. I highly recommend these books and teachings!

Eye-Witness Account: Global Peace Forum at Saddleback with Rick Warren and Tony Blair Raises Serious Questions About Global Peace Plan

On March 7, 2011, Roger Oakland, founder of Understand the Times, International, and two other members from his ministry attended the Peace in a Globalized Society forum at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, which featured Rick Warren and special guest, former UK prime minister Tony Blair. Roger Oakland and his co-workers obtained eye-witness seats at the event that included well over 2000 people in attendance. Although cameras and recorders were not allowed in the main sanctuary where the interview took place, the UTT team took notes.

2theadvocate:

Warren Visits Bethany for Conference

He (Warren) said he has trained more than 400,000 people in the 40-day, “Purpose Driven” program in 164 foreign nations, and some of those people have told him, “The uprisings are not religious or political; everybody is working together.”

In introducing Warren to the conference audience, the Rev. Larry Stockstill, senior pastor at Bethany, said Warren has “an apostolic calling on a worldwide scale.”

“A mantle that Billy Graham has been carrying is falling upon him,” Stockstill said. Warren’s “greatest desire is to see the American pastor and pastors across this globe develop a purity of lifestyle that shines like stars in the firmament.”

emphasis mine

Apprising Ministries:

THE DANIEL PLAN OF RICK WARREN ENCOURAGES UNBIBLICAL MEDITATION: http://apprising.org/2011/02/17/the-daniel-plan-of-rick-warren-encourages-unbiblical-meditation/

Jesus didn’t wear socks. I don’t wear socks. I want to be like him.